Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

the blue panther said:
Burnham lost the election for Labour leader in 2015, coming 2nd to Jeremy Corbyn with an outstandingly shite share of the vote - 19%. He managed to beat the intellectual might of Yvette Cooper and Liz Kendall though, so there were 2 worse candidates than him.

He always came across as a mumbling, bumbling lightweight, with a visible thought process, as his sentences slowly formed. Since then, he's gone stumbling into local politics and become a mouthpiece for not very much, but it's local and much easier than anything national. He'll support virtually anything populist as it's so easy to do.

Add in his monobrow and scouse accent to his anti-intellectualism, and you have a would-be, left wing Farage, without the charm.

Him and Scruffy Jim: what a combo!
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And Seb Coe, Gary Neville, etc. What a United team they make.
 
So no tax payers money will be spent on the stadium, but it will be spent on the land it will be built on.
No doubt with compulsory purchase orders being paid by the tax payer to free up space for a new stadium and whatever else they decide to build and make money off.
Where will this extra revenue be going?
I’ll tell you where it’ll be going, straight out of Manchester and this country along with the other hundreds of millions getting pumped by the glazers every single year.
It’s bad enough we’ve got a self indulgent money grabbing **** for a mayor but this smarmy Scouse **** takes the piss.
A fucking scouser mayor of Manchester!!
Manchester is on its arse, roads are falling apart, there’s shit all over our streets, nothing gets repaired anymore.
God forbid they plant flowers anymore or take some pride in our community’s.
There’s more homeless on our streets than ever before.
The list goes on.
Cutback after cutbacks.
All cos our councils are underfunded.
But no let’s spend hundreds of millions of pounds helping out billionaires cos they are too fucking tight to spend their own money.
We should’ve dragged that Scouse **** out of Manchester over the ‘clean air zone’ cash grab.
Firstly he didn’t fight hard enough to put a stop to it, but HE also decided on the size of it.
He decided it would be the biggest one in Europe and that it would be 24hrs a day and 365 days a year.
Probably because his wife was a director of the company that was ready to make millions off it.
It would have still been going ahead if it wasn’t for the people of Manchester protesting against it.
An absolute self indulgent money grabbing **** of the highest order.
He gives zero fucks about the people of Manchester and would quite happily trample on them to earn more money and advance his political career.
****!!!
 
plattlanebenches said:
One of the many things that pisses me off about this is the notion that investment and regeneration is needed in that area which is utter bollocks. It’s changed beyond recognition over the last decade or so due to major investments and development. The whole thing is a crock of shite.
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Correct.
Salford Quays, Mediacity, Trafford, Trafford Park, the whole area is thriving. Yet they are making it out to be another East Manchester that needs massive regeneration and investment. It’s nothing more than PR bullshit, just to sell the proposal and the dream of a new Old Trafford.
 
jrb said:
Not Andy’s fault.

The Metrolink line should have been ready for the Commonwealth Games. It opened 10 years later due to New Labour pulling the funding. It took 10 years to build a 2 mile Metrolink track from Piccadilly Train Station to the Etihad. 10 fucking years! In that time China has built numerous high speed train lines across China.
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Yes but Communist China is a dynamic forward thinking country whilst Capitalist Britain is a Thatcher fook up.
 
Micky Blue said:
He doesn’t care.
He’s a **** who will play to the masses in order to fulfil his ultimate aim of becoming PM.
So if he’s voted out he will take a safe Labour seat in St Helens or somewhere similar and use it to try and push himself into a leadership contender.

Plus, if he gets united this stadium he secures the southern vote.

He’s as slimy as a politician can be.
I remember him exploiting Hillsborough with crocodile tears and using it to further his career and make a name for himself.

www.bbc.co.uk

Andy Burnham criticises Clean Air Zone claims about his wife - BBC News

The Greater Manchester mayor criticises rumours his wife is financially linked to a new Clean Air Zone.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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Fuck me that looks like a cartoon character not a woman.
 
I don't understand the hate here. There are as many United fans in Manchester as there are blues. There are probably more rags in Greater Manchester than there are blues.
Like it or not, United bring significant amounts of money into the City.
Investment to improve the infrastructure around Old Trafford is a good thing and it will benefit the whole City.
Now if this money is being diverted from Mancunian public services then it needs looking at and the benefits being scrutinised. But, if it's coming from central government, it can only be a good thing. The Tories would not have paid a penny to redevelop infrastructure in Manchester. When the IRA blew up the City Centre, was it not EU money that paid for the redevelopment? That investment totally changed Manchester for the better.
Investment is good. Let the rags pay for their stadium. But don't let your hate of the rags cloud your judgement. Investment brings opportunity and it make help improve your children's lives.
 
jrb said:
Not Andy’s fault.

The Metrolink line should have been ready for the Commonwealth Games. It opened 10 years later due to New Labour pulling the funding. It took 10 years to build a 2 mile Metrolink track from Piccadilly Train Station to the Etihad. 10 fucking years! In that time China has built numerous high speed train lines across China.
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And quite a few hospitals
 
jrb said:
Not Andy’s fault.

The Metrolink line should have been ready for the Commonwealth Games. It opened 10 years later due to New Labour pulling the funding. It took 10 years to build a 2 mile Metrolink track from Piccadilly Train Station to the Etihad. 10 fucking years! In that time China has built numerous high speed train lines across China.
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Yeh but what a 2 miles they are!?!

Just look at the pioneering engineering wizardry that have been mastered to connect a train station to a football ground across what can only be described as flat land.......... :-)
 
Nightmare Walking said:
I don't understand the hate here. There are as many United fans in Manchester as there are blues. There are probably more rags in Greater Manchester than there are blues.
Like it or not, United bring significant amounts of money into the City.
Investment to improve the infrastructure around Old Trafford is a good thing and it will benefit the whole City.
Now if this money is being diverted from Mancunian public services then it needs looking at and the benefits being scrutinised. But, if it's coming from central government, it can only be a good thing. The Tories would not have paid a penny to redevelop infrastructure in Manchester. When the IRA blew up the City Centre, was it not EU money that paid for the redevelopment? That investment totally changed Manchester for the better.
Investment is good. Let the rags pay for their stadium. But don't let your hate of the rags cloud your judgement. Investment brings opportunity and it make help improve your children's lives.
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More to do with that tax dodging kunt not putting a penny in and doesn't pay a penny in tax who moved to Monaco to not pay a massive tax bill!
 
Nightmare Walking said:
I don't understand the hate here. There are as many United fans in Manchester as there are blues. There are probably more rags in Greater Manchester than there are blues.
Like it or not, United bring significant amounts of money into the City.
Investment to improve the infrastructure around Old Trafford is a good thing and it will benefit the whole City.
Now if this money is being diverted from Mancunian public services then it needs looking at and the benefits being scrutinised. But, if it's coming from central government, it can only be a good thing. The Tories would not have paid a penny to redevelop infrastructure in Manchester. When the IRA blew up the City Centre, was it not EU money that paid for the redevelopment? That investment totally changed Manchester for the better.
Investment is good. Let the rags pay for their stadium. But don't let your hate of the rags cloud your judgement. Investment brings opportunity and it make help improve your children's lives.
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If I use the train I have to go past the swamp and it gets bottlenecked near Deansgate. Don't think it will make any difference unless they improve the infrastructure there.

I'm all for investment from the capital but nothing should go to the red shite and I hope the council lease them the land similar to us
 
petrusha said:
Do you have a figure for subsequent years? IIRC, the reason for amending the rental provisions under the lease in 2011 was to take account of City having a right to expand the stadium.

The 2015/16 season was the first when the expanded South Stand was open. Maybe a different calculation will kick in at that point?
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No unfortunately it come from an FOI request I’m pretty sure that the lease was renegotiated to allow for the naming rights with a flat fee for the lease regardless of attendance additional matches and events to be paid pro rata No evidence as such
There’s a pdf of the reply from the council here at bottom of page

www.whatdotheyknow.com

Commercial terms of Etihad Stadium rental by Manchester City - a Freedom of Information request to Manchester City Council

Please send me a copy of the rental contract between (presumably) the City Council (or an entity set up by the council for the purpose) and Manchester City FC, regarding the stadium now known as the Etihad stadium. For clarification I seek to learn only the broad commercial terms of the...
www.whatdotheyknow.com www.whatdotheyknow.com
 
Nightmare Walking said:
I don't understand the hate here. There are as many United fans in Manchester as there are blues. There are probably more rags in Greater Manchester than there are blues.
Like it or not, United bring significant amounts of money into the City.
Investment to improve the infrastructure around Old Trafford is a good thing and it will benefit the whole City.
Now if this money is being diverted from Mancunian public services then it needs looking at and the benefits being scrutinised. But, if it's coming from central government, it can only be a good thing. The Tories would not have paid a penny to redevelop infrastructure in Manchester. When the IRA blew up the City Centre, was it not EU money that paid for the redevelopment? That investment totally changed Manchester for the better.
Investment is good. Let the rags pay for their stadium. But don't let your hate of the rags cloud your judgement. Investment brings opportunity and it make help improve your children's lives.
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I still don't see where there is space. You've got white city and the big tesco on Chester Road. Across the canal is media city and the lowry. There's loads of hotels in spitting distance. Unless they put in a log flume what are they gonna add?
 
GOULDYBOBS said:
If I use the train I have to go past the swamp and it gets bottlenecked near Deansgate. Don't think it will make any difference unless they improve the infrastructure there.

I'm all for investment from the capital but nothing should go to the red shite and I hope the council lease them the land similar to us
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They are talking about shutting down Trafford Park Freight Terminal and moving it elsewhere, so freight trains can bypass Manchester City Centre altogether.

At the moment, every single train in and out of that terminal has to go through that bottleneck near Deansgate. So taking all those out of the equation should in theory at least, improve matters considerably.
 
GOULDYBOBS said:
If I use the train I have to go past the swamp and it gets bottlenecked near Deansgate. Don't think it will make any difference unless they improve the infrastructure there.

I'm all for investment from the capital but nothing should go to the red shite and I hope the council lease them the land similar to us
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I'm from Newton Heath mate. Growing up, we seen fuck all investment around there. That whole part of East Manchester was left to rot. I remember when they built the sports centre next to the astro on Ten Acres Lane. It sounds daft but it totally transformed people's lives. I could not care less about Uniteds owners or their motives. All I know is that investment is good for Manchester. The 90K jobs is pie in the sky. But it will create a significant amount of jobs.
This all depends where the money is coming from. I would much rather infrastructure was improved around Old Trafford, rather than having billions spent on a tunnel under Stonehenge, just so Tarquin can get back to London half hour faster, from his lodge in Cornwall. If it comes at the cost of closing libraries or Gyms in Manchester, that's a totally different matter.
I know it's hard to do, but take the United angle out of it. If the government said they were going to invest money into travel links and infrastructure in Manchester, every person on this forum would be for it. It just stings a little as it directly benefits the rags. You can't let that cloud your judgement.
 
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