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Not really sure what point you’re trying to make. Every one of those taxes are applied in the UK and probably most western countries. As for the land tax example you gave, it looks like it only applies to a small number of people so it has no relevance to the discussion about overall tax take.
The point I am making is that for such a small population relatively speaking and small amount of tax payers three levels of government is not necessary , the States could be abolished at least as far as collecting tax is concerned from the individual , these taxes were designed to be abolished when GST was struck at 10 per cent around the turn of the century and are still with us largely because State Governments are little more than a final collection agency for the transfer of this money from Federal Government the monies were never levied prior to this.

Around 22 per cent now are paying off a second home so its not as small as you would imagine.

How much land tax do you pay in the UK if you say own / are servicing a second property worth 1 million pounds each year?

There was a movement to abolish the State Governments many years ago but it failed to materialize.

Not sure of the figures in the UK but around 16 per cent of our work force are in the public sector and its on the increase.

We have been in per capita recession for almost two years and would have been in recession if not for government spending and mass migration into the country.
 
The point I am making is that for such a small population relatively speaking and small amount of tax payers three levels of government is not necessary , the States could be abolished at least as far as collecting tax is concerned from the individual , these taxes were designed to be abolished when GST was struck at 10 per cent around the turn of the century and are still with us largely because State Governments are little more than a final collection agency for the transfer of this money from Federal Government the monies were never levied prior to this.

Around 22 per cent now are paying off a second home so its not as small as you would imagine.

How much land tax do you pay in the UK if you say own / are servicing a second property worth 1 million pounds each year?

There was a movement to abolish the State Governments many years ago but it failed to materialize.

Not sure of the figures in the UK but around 16 per cent of our work force are in the public sector and its on the increase.

We have been in per capita recession for almost two years and would have been in recession if not for government spending and mass migration into the country.
That’s a slightly different point to the one you initially made about Australians being the highest taxed country.
When I say slightly I mean completely.
 
I mean... fucking hell. I no psychologist, but she seems mentally ill, and I'd hazard a guess that anyone buys into this shit is also.

I wonder how much she's being paid for this gig?


The ultimate grift.

And I assume the good lord approves of all that plastic surgery she’s had, I mean, god would, wouldn’t he?

Crank
 
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That’s a slightly different point to the one you initially made about Australians being the highest taxed country.
When I say slightly I mean completely.
Originally I made the point I made above which wasn't discussed at all if I recall.

I would be interested if you had a figure on the land tax for comparison purposes only of course.
 
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Originally I made the point I made above which wasn't discussed at all if I recall.

I would be interested if you had a figure on the land tax for comparison purposes only of course.
No idea and not interested. Why don’t you start a thread on it if it’s so important to you. It’s certainly nothing to do with the mango Mussolini.
 
No idea and not interested. Why don’t you start a thread on it if it’s so important to you. It’s certainly nothing to do with the mango Mussolini.
Fair enough , just thought you might of had some idea , you come across as someone who knows a little about tax.

its not that important I just thought you might know of the cuff.

How much income tax do you pay a year?

You can abuse the mango Mussolini when land tax in the US is reduced or plastic straws are reintroduced.
 
Note how you'd really like to not have billionaires or would really like it if government's took some sizeable portion pf their money from them.

But unfortunately you don't have the power to make this want of yours a reality . Even though you believe this would be great for all humans if it happened.

Now If someone could grant you the power to make this want of yours happen, you'll take the power and make it happen. Why? Because you believe its would be great for the world, humanity, the earth etc...

In that respect, you are EXACTLY like the billionaires i.e. they too have ideas that they think would be great for the world, society or humanity.

But unlike you, they have the wealth and power to influence those ideas and make them a reality. It is that ability ( lets call it power) to influence humanity and change the trajectory of the world for the better (at least in their view) thats the reason why they want to keep their enormous wealth.

So it makes sense that they too just like you wouldn't want to give up the thing that affords them the power to influence society in the way that they think is best for it. Just like ypu would have loved to have.

In short, they are more like you than you give them credit for :)

This makes no sense to me.

Whatever one thinks of progressives, however you define them and whether you believe their ideals are eventually corrupted, what you can't deny is they are, at the very least, motivated to do what they believe to be right in order to enrich the lives of the greatest number of people.

The same cannot be said of Trump and his cronies, they pursue power not for the betterment of the American people, or to make the world safe for democracy, or anything lofty or inspiring, but for power itself and what power gives them, and for Trump 2.0 it's given him the power to destroy the American state, because it has to be destroyed in order to be repurposed to do his bidding.

USAID is a soft power tool of the old state, its destruction may on the surface damage the soft power you referred to, but it has to go, because it is an encumbrance, a remnant of the old state, a useful tool yes, of the old order, but it's also a trap, an obligation to do things as they've always been done, there's no room for it in the new reality, it has to go.

Trump is a rambling, shambolic man with no clear ideology, but he understands power, if nothing else. There's a reason he loves authoritarians, he's somewhat envious of North Korea and the power it bestows on the great leader. So that's where he's heading, not to create a monolithic state, but a shrunken state fiercely loyal to him, diminished in size and scope, but one that still retains enormous financial and military muscle to do his bidding abroad. At home he'll do his damnedest to eradicate the checks and balances in the US political system and I suspect he'll beef up domestic forces to combat any enemies within, made up or otherwise.

Trump deliberately sows chaos with his daily executive orders because he's on a mission to rewire America, at ever level, and this tsunami of Trumpian edicts come way too fast for his opponents to even comprehend let alone counter. It doesn't matter that so much of it is garbage, or illegal, or unconstitutional, or that every day he makes up contentious bullshit on the hoof that frightens and appals people across the globe, because while everyone is running around like headless chickens trying to keep up, folk far clever than Trump are taking a wrecking ball to everything we thought America stands for.
 
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Is the Kennedy Centre in DC just an arts/concert venue?
Agent Orange has obviously been told about some of their stuff and had, and has stated he's going to fire some of the trustees and appoint himself as chairman.

Good thing he doesn't have anything important to do, like vent about straws.
 
Is the Kennedy Centre in DC just an arts/concert venue?
Agent Orange has obviously been told about some of their stuff and had, and has stated he's going to fire some of the trustees and appoint himself as chairman.

Good thing he doesn't have anything important to do, like vent about straws.
Apparently something about Drag Queens has upset him.
 
This makes no sense to me.

Whatever one thinks of progressives, however you define them and whether you believe their ideals are eventually corrupted, what you can't deny is they are, at the very least, motivated to do what they believe to be right in order to enrich the lives of the greatest number of people.
I think you are giving too much credit to stated intent. I am not so much interested on why people say they do what they do, what i am interested in is what the actual outcomes are.

Way too many organizations have formed to solve a problem, only to serve the purpose of not solving the problem . Why? Because solving the problem actually puts them out of a job. I do not agree that taking at face value what a groups say their intent are is always true.

Id rather we just judge all groups by the outcomes achieved by their actions.


The same cannot be said of Trump and his cronies, they pursue power not for the betterment of the American people, or to make the world safe for democracy, or anything lofty or inspiring, but for power itself and what power gives them, and for Trump 2.0 it's given him the power to destroy the American state, because it has to be destroyed in order to be repurposed to do his bidding.
Now that's funny... I might in fact agree with the conclusions you reach here about Trump and his cronies, but i want us to both recognize in real time that you are applying 2 separate standards here: With the progressive, you believe what they say they want for humanity/ country/ the people. even if the evidence of their actions fail to accomplish their stated goal. In other words, you take them at their word. Yet with Trump and his cronies, you don't take them at their word, rather you assume a nefarious intent, regardless of what the outcomes are.

By the way, im not suggested you are wrong about Trump and his cronies. Just simply that you are applying different standards and thats patently unfair.

I for one just conclude both Trump and his cronies and the Progressives all want power for the same reason everyone wants power. So they can matter and influence in the interest of what they deem best.

Same standard.

USAID is a soft power tool of the old state, its destruction may on the surface damage the soft power you referred to, but it has to go, because it is an encumbrance, a remnant of the old state, a useful tool yes, of the old order, but it's also a trap, an obligation to do things as they've always been done, there's no room for it in the new reality, it has to go.
I think you have mixed 2 different posts of mine together. Anyway, so does this mean you are in agreement with Trump and his cronies that US AID has to go? And if so, what would you say are the nefarious reasons for getting rid of it?


Trump is a rambling, shambolic man with no clear ideology, but he understands power, if nothing else. There's a reason he loves authoritarians, he's somewhat envious of North Korea and the power it bestows on the great leader. So that's where he's heading, not to create a monolithic state, but a shrunken state, but one that still retains enormous financial and military muscle to do his bidding
Well, this is a prediction. We'd have to come back in 3 years to see how accurate it turns out. Just to be clear, your argument is that Trump crushed US AID because he wants a less externally involved US foreign policy so he can create a powerful, rich independent state where he becomes the 'dear leader'

Does that accurately describe what you think?

Trump deliberately sows chaos with his daily Executive Orders because he's on a mission to rewire America, at ever level, and this tsunami of Trumpian edicts come way too fast for his opponents to even comprehend let alone counter. It doesn't matter that so much of it is garbage, or that every day he makes up contentious bullshit on the hoof that frightens and appals people across the globe, because while everyone is running around like headless chickens trying to keep up, folk far clever than Trump are taking a wrecking ball to everything we thought America stands for.

We clearly have come to very different conclusions about what he is doing. I agree he is on a mission to rewire America. I dont think he is sewing chaos. He just has an agenda. One he openly and plainly stated by the way. And he is on a mission trying to accomplish that agenda.

In so far as their is any chaos, it simply comes from the establishment orthodoxy reeling from hos audacious attempts to accomplish the goals he sst out.

On a side note, whether he is successful or not partly will depend on speed. Hence why he needs to move quickly and push through as many projects as possible within the first 2 years ( before he becomes a lame duck) and even more important within the first 100 days when he has the most momentum.

You can, as you have, assume nefarious intent, but others as i can see how this too can simply be a difference in opinion on how to beat serve America's interest and everything it stands for.
 
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