President Trump

threespires said:
What exactly is it you think Trump will do that will arrest this decline? I'm also interested in whether you think a degree of authoritarianism in the US is a price worth paying to address some of these ills? How would you feel about the expansion of the power of the state to address them?
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I don't think Trump will arrest the decline. Granted perhaps the whole discussion wasn't warranted in a Trump thread

I definitely do not want an expanding of the power of the State or a degree of added Authoritarians. Whats required is a cultural shift rather than a political one if im being honest, it might take serious economic hardship for such to happen. Lige is simply too easy for Westerners.

I ask because culturally you're a highly individualistic country whose definition of national pride/identity is quite 'superficial' in comparison to some of the more collectivist cultures say of Asia. You are also a nation that has chaffed against centralised control and the curtailment of liberties. The countries you have named checked that would seek to eat your lunch display a variety of those characteristics that are quite alien to the US.
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The superficiality of national pride is more pf a recent phenomenon to be honest. The last; 65 years perhaps. National pride was grounded in a particular ethos that was predominantly Western but with an American spin.

I assume you were attracted to Trump because you felt he had some answers to the fact that many countries are indeed raising their children to outwork and outhink the traditional western powers. I don't mean generalist terms such as "unleash the potential" rather what in you view are the policy answers he will provide?
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No I wasn't. That's an understandable misconception. I wasn't attracted to Trump at all. I was just repulsed by the prior administration and its acolytes.

That said, I think this issue is unrelated to any specific American President or Presidents. Hence why my remarks were general to the West and not just America. It is a malaise that's greater than some temporary political appointment in one Western Country. That it ended up being discussed in the Trump thread is just happenstance and not an intentional attempt to connect the 2. At least certainly not by me.
 
Koniec said:
Why should Ukraine concede any territory to an aggressor? Borders decided by said aggressor decades before. Maybe Britain should give the Falklands to Argentina.
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Nobody has said anybody should concede anything. I think you are being a bit presumptuous but that is the purpose of negotiation. Its either that or the war continues and there is massive loss of life all round.

Me personally I'm happy to see an attemot to the war by negotiation in the absence of any other options at this time.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
Yeah..... much better than digging in and start chucking atomic bombs at each other.

As lovely as it would be I very much doubt Russia are going to just say... "Oh, okay Donny babe we will give back everything might have gained, so no need for you to get involved".

It is a start, not the end, a start.

What did you honestly expect?
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A country to be on its ally’s side.
 
Dax777 said:
1. Your belief is not required. :)

2. Perhaps you should stop being a douchebag who bring up other poster's family members in your idiotic responses. You've brought up my mom once before in one of your douchebaggery and some other posters wife yesterday. Now my kids that i don't have apparently are your new targets. Yet, anyone discusses trans ideology here and you consider it a personal attack on you and your family. You need to quit with your projecting and learn how to actually become that empathetic human you often lie to yourself you are

3. By asking not what your country can do for you, but what you can so for your country?
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1. Good, because I don't.

2. Because I don't care about YOU doesn't make me non-empathetic.

3. So, nothing then.
 
asahartford1 said:
Greenland, will become Trumpland, eventually.
He will give the natives ,new homes , beautiful they will be too. Most of them have told him they are looking forward to being removed to Egypt or Jordan.
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No, they’re going to Venezuela.
 
Fair play to him he sounds like he has finally made a breakthrough with Russia and Ukraine. No one knows what any peace deal may look like and Zelenskyy will have to agree to whatever is on the table.

How can anyone not think this good news other than base it on their hatred of Trump? Any other president or politician did this they would be being praised.
 
LMAO at around 10 secs Elons kid tells trump "You’re not the president you need to go away" to his face. Wonder where he got that idea from?



What a lame duck sitting there while Elon does the interview as though he is the President.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Fair play to him he sounds like he has finally made a breakthrough with Russia and Ukraine. No one knows what any peace deal may look like and Zelenskyy will have to agree to whatever is on the table.

How can anyone not think this good news other than base it on their hatred of Trump? Any other president or politician did this they would be being praised.
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Sarcasm?
 
Uptop said:
LMAO at around 10 secs Elons kid tells trump "You’re not the president you need to go away" to his face. Wonder where he got that idea from?



What a lame duck sitting there while Elon does the interview as though he is the President.
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Two people in this clip have pooped their pants, and the other is just a toddler.
 
ZenHalfTimeCrock said:
Some interesting examples there.

Here’s how Putin’s Eurasianism project is being imparted in schools in that part of the world:

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For more on the history of Eurasianism and it's origins in the Russian intellectual avant-garde and fascist underground movements of the past and present, see Charles Clover's extraordinary study Black Wind, White Snow.

As for India, well I'd certainly be wary of using the state of Gujarat as an example. This is from Martha Nussbaum's Not For Profit: Why Democracy Needs The Humanities:

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Of course, I'm sure those engineers were very hard working when they were at school.

Additionally, I can't ever recall ever being told to instruct pupils that 'we suck' when it comes to our history, either by the senior management of any of the schools I spent time in or as part of the content of the GCSE, A Level and International Baccalaureate courses that I taught.

Am guessing, though, that you may have had something like colonialism in mind when you typed those two words.

As it happens, I never taught that topic. But if I was tasked with doing so, I would probably have spent a good part of my 'holidays' reading and making notes on Nigel Biggar's recent and controversial book, and then contrasting his ideas with those of Alan Lester in his The Truth About Empire: Real Histories of British Colonialism. As a terminal essay, I would then have set my students one requiring them to explain and critique Biggar.

Here's Lester's own attempt to do just that:

bellacaledonia.org.uk

The British Empire Rehabilitated?

Nigel Biggar, Colonialism: A Moral Reckoning, William Collins, 2023. Reviewed by Alan Lester Nigel Biggar’s Colonialism begins with a story of its author’s persecution at the hands of domineering “…
bellacaledonia.org.uk bellacaledonia.org.uk
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Always interesting to read what you have to say, albeit i mostly disagree. But yes, 'We suck' is mostly taught in the form of Colonialism, Imperialism, and Slavery. You don't have to spell out 'we suck' to teach it... Even though many go out of their way to do just that.

Don't have the time now, but will fully digest t the critique you posted when I can but i already see some issues or framing i disagree with

But as always, appreciate your input.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Fair play to him he sounds like he has finally made a breakthrough with Russia and Ukraine. No one knows what any peace deal may look like and Zelenskyy will have to agree to whatever is on the table.

How can anyone not think this good news other than base it on their hatred of Trump? Any other president or politician did this they would be being praised.
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I'm afraid you're wrong here.

The experts on Bluemoon already know the outcome of the negotiations and made necessary adjustments for the planet to go forward.

As you say, anyone other than Trump would have received justifiable praise. It really is embarrassing
 
True_Blue69 said:
Fair play to him he sounds like he has finally made a breakthrough with Russia and Ukraine. No one knows what any peace deal may look like and Zelenskyy will have to agree to whatever is on the table.

How can anyone not think this good news other than base it on their hatred of Trump? Any other president or politician did this they would be being praised.
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Did you read what Hegseth said?

Btw, it’s not “fair play” or a “breakthrough” to tell the side that got invaded and decimated “You’re not getting any more support and I’ll never vote you into NATO,” while telling the aggressor on the other side, “Hey, this costing you a fortune, you got the strategic gains you wanted most already, and can keep them, and I’ll knobble the other side, so they’ll never be serious threat again.”

To me that is blatant appeasement of the aggressor and I might wonder why it is that way…even though I think EVERYONE knows!

Tulsi, Donald & Vladimir must be loving it!
Zelenskyy not so much.
 
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