Russian invasion of Ukraine

ChicagoBlue said:
Ahead? I have to stifle the tears now!

Wondering who, how and when someone is going to stand up for the Constitution they all took an oath to uphold?!

The Republican head of the Armed Services Committee has a few choice words for Putin that will make the news tomorrow, so there’s a chance…slim though it may be with the spineless politicians in Washington, too!
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It's depressing so many yanks are so insular and ill-informed. I hope the UK and Europe presses on and continues to support Ukraine and opposes Russia.
 
Churchlawtonblue said:
It's depressing so many yanks are so insular and ill-informed. I hope the UK and Europe presses on and continues to support Ukraine and opposes Russia.
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I hope Congress comes to its senses and doesn’t simply act as a rubber stamp on Trump.

The sad part is that I think Putin will play the long game, doing whatever he needs to do with his friendly faced lap dog in DC, in order to lay the table for the future, which may not be his. He’s no spring chicken himself.

My concern is that post U.S. appeasement of Russia’s aggression, Trump insists on a reintroduction of Russia into the G7/8, Europe et al capitulates, then NATO is left wondering where they stand with Article 5 and the Baltics, and sit around waiting for the next shoe to drop!

Europe would do well to organize itself for a post-U.S. NATO, because as CinC, Trump holds virtually all the U.S. cards in that area…and while Hegseth is a fawning puppy dog, Gabbard might be just the person to keep them both happy…Trump & Putin!!!
 
ultimateharold said:
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Look at em, laughing it up.
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same **** on the left three years ago

 
ChicagoBlue said:
I hope Congress comes to its senses and doesn’t simply act as a rubber stamp on Trump.

The sad part is that I think Putin will play the long game, doing whatever he needs to do with his friendly faced lap dog in DC, in order to lay the table for the future, which may not be his. He’s no spring chicken himself.

My concern is that post U.S. appeasement of Russia’s aggression, Trump insists on a reintroduction of Russia into the G7/8, Europe et al capitulates, then NATO is left wondering where they stand with Article 5 and the Baltics, and sit around waiting for the next shoe to drop!

Europe would do well to organize itself for a post-U.S. NATO, because as CinC, Trump holds virtually all the U.S. cards in that area…and while Hegseth is a fawning puppy dog, Gabbard might be just the person to keep them both happy…Trump & Putin!!!
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The UK and Europe need to be prepared to call Trumps bluff. Russia really is small fry when it comes to trade and partnerships. He needs to be publicly reminded of that ASAP. The USs trade with Russia is tiny compared to that with the UK and the EU. The UKs trade with the US alone was over 10 times that of Russias prior to sanctions.

Putin thinks he's some kind of global leader that has significant influence, but in reality he's just a murderous dictator of a small time shitty backward country who happens to have inherited a nuclear capability.
 
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Churchlawtonblue said:
The UK and Europe need to be prepared to call Trumps bluff. Russia really is small fry when it comes to trade and partnerships. He needs to be publicly reminded of that ASAP. The USs trade with Russia is tiny compared to that with the UK and the EU. The UKs trade with the US alone was over 10 times that of Russias prior to sanctions.

Putin thinks he's some kind of global leader that has significant influence, but in reality he's just a murderous dictator of a small time shitty backward country who happens to have inherited a nuclear capability.
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You’re assuming Trump is seeing this from a broad perspective. I think he has set his mind on a specific agenda, with specific financial and economic goals, mostly revolving around mineral resources, including gas and oil.

He also realizes he can learn lots about how to run a real kleptocracy, which is where we are in America now. We all know who the big name oligarchs are already, and there are other, quieter ones, in the shadows. Putin made himself one of the richest men in the world on the backs of his countrymen. Trump wants it, too.

He thinks the Trump name is the 21st century Kennedy, and expects his offspring to fulfill their destiny on the backs of the low IQ Americans who never fail to show up and fill his pockets! However, he sees big league and he wants a pinch, so here we go…
 
So the Tango Gibbon blames the war on Zelensky, pressumably, for not surrendering quickly enough.

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Yeah, he went there: Trump blames Zelenskyy for starting the war.

Unspeakable. Totally predictable but nauseating nonetheless. The American President blames Zelenskyy for “starting” the war — apparently by not surrendering quickly enough. This follows on his grossly extortionate demand for half of Ukraine’s mineral...
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In one fell swoop the USA has elected a nutter, whose sole purpose is to destroy the West and remove all trust throughout the world in the USA as a beacon for democracy.
Dark times.
I despair, I really do.
 
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johnny crossan said:
"German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock echoed Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Tuesday in calling the current debate about possible European peacekeeping troops in Ukraine premature.
"No soldiers will be sent into this hot war," Baerbock told public broadcaster ZDF."
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Again that is out of context. Starmer has said he would commit troops "after" a peace agreement, not during your quote of a "hot war". So the last quote is about right now etc.
My reply was about you saying we are on our own. We could be, but that hasn't even begun to be a fact yet.
 
Dayv1092 Review:
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Ukraine Invasion Day 1,092: Trump the Surrender Monkey gets ridden "like a dog"

Donald Trump, Neuralink Monkey, repeats Russian talking points, blaming Ukraine for the invasion. The war will be over when Russia leaves. Trump's team allegedly has offered Putin (1) Ukrainian territory, (2) no NATO membership for Ukraine, (3) no US...
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Trump's team allegedly has offered Putin
(1) Ukrainian territory,
(2) No NATO membership for Ukraine,
(3) No US soldiers in Ukraine,
(4) The withdrawal of US soldiers from Europe, including from frontline states, and
(5) Sanctions relief.

Putin's return offer -- nothing.
 
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