The Farmers Protests in London

[BobKowalski]

I don't give a fuck what others have posted . I merely wanna know why all the people that moaned about the jso lot, and where very happy to see them locked up because they 'could have blocked an ambulance and killed someone' don't think the same about farmers blocking roads.

Aye, the double standards are a bit of a mystery :)

 

[Brewster's millions]

Err, as i'm sure you are aware, i haven't mentioned the picture. If you wanna use that as a deflection from my original point knock yerself out.

You directly quoted me from a post where I referred to, and only referred to, the obviously photoshopped picture of an ambulance stuck behind some tractors.

You’ve then used that post to ask me about the JSO protest, and yet I’m the one using deflection? Absolutely comical.

And I did actually answer your question about the JSO protests - I don’t agree with what they do, particularly the stunts they pull in places like art galleries.

 

[Brewster's millions]

Nobody got riled up by the picture in any case. It’s classic deflection.

Sure, 0% chance.

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Sure, 0% chance.

 

[stonerblue]

Aye, the double standards are a bit of a mystery :)

Not to me

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Sure, 0% chance.

lol, if you think that’s someone being riled up, I suggest you have a look at the JSO thread.

As I said, classic deflection.

Just say you have sympathy for farmers and so you don’t really care about what they stop as it’s a protest, whilst you hate JSO and so will give them no sympathy for their protest and pick at anything you can to demean them.

It’s fine. We can all see this.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Sure, 0% chance.

The next stage in the cyclical debate is questioning the veracity of the photo.
Then the other side can question the veracity of the photos of ambulances stuck because of JSO protests.

Protests are designed to disrupt. Both are going to have an impact on emergency services getting to their required destinations.

It’s just that one protest is more equal than the other, dependent where one’s sympathies lie.

You’re literally doing this. :-)

 

[Brewster's millions]

lol, if you think that’s someone being riled up, I suggest you have a look at the JSO thread.

As I said, classic deflection.

Just say you have sympathy for farmers and so you don’t really care about what they stop as it’s a protest, whilst you hate JSO and so will give them no sympathy for their protest and pick at anything you can to demean them.

It’s fine. We can all see this.

Again, you and your funny 'friends' seem entirely fixated with this deflection thing.

It's really very odd.

The posts of mine you refer to are solely to do with the photo-shopped picture of the ambulance. I made no mention of JSO, and here you are desperately trying to imply deflection, and bringing JSO into the conversation.

Really very odd.

 

[Brewster's millions]

You’re literally doing this. :-)

When you start answering your own posts, it's probably time to take a break.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

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Sure, 0% chance.

That is a very clumsily doctored image mate.

Hilariously shit as far as fake images go.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

That is a very clumsily doctored image mate.

Hilariously shit as far as fake images go.

Maybe so, but I’m hardly riled up about it.

It didn’t stop the premise of ambulances being impacted by the tractors.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

When you start answering your own posts, it's probably time to take a break.

It was a quote message to show how predictable you were. As you know, deflection is your only tactic.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Again, you and your funny 'friends' seem entirely fixated with this deflection thing.

It's really very odd.

The posts of mine you refer to are solely to do with the photo-shopped picture of the ambulance. I made no mention of JSO, and here you are desperately trying to imply deflection, and bringing JSO into the conversation.

Really very odd.

Exactly. Despite being directly asked by another poster about them.

That’s not odd for you, it’s entirely predictable.

 

[Brewster's millions]

It was a quote message to show how predictable you were. As you know, deflection is your only tactic.

Hmm. This deflection thing again. Uncanny.

If someone posts an obviously fake photo, then people are going to say its fake. Why wouldn't that happen?

 

[Brewster's millions]

Exactly. Despite being directly asked by another poster about them.

That’s not odd for you, it’s entirely predictable.

You're not making any sense now.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

You're not making any sense now.

Deflect.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

This is “one of those” threads where people just talk to themselves isn’t it. Like all the politics and brexit type threads.

So here’s my balanced but only vaguely informed view on this topic:

I spend a lot of time in our countryside and I want British farming to succeed. It depresses me that we import so much stuff that we shouldn’t.

Yes farmers should be inheritance tax just like everyone else who owns a lot of assets. HOWEVER it is also true that not all farmers are multi millionaires just because they own land that is on paper valuable - it is a business, and farmers incur astronomical costs. It isn’t equivalent to someone owning a massive house with acres and acres of land, and it shouldn’t be treated as such.

The country is skint and the government have to try and raise money somehow.

The real enemy to British farming is the massive supermarkets - constantly jacking up prices to the public while offering farmers a pittance for their produce. Tesco made THREE BILLION POUNDS PROFIT last year, ripping off both suppliers and customers. That isn’t right.

Everyone has a right to protest. I haven’t read anything about blocking in ambulances but an ambulance would know in advance whether a road was closed, and the big tractor protests would have to clear their routes with the police ahead of time.

The image posted above is definitely a fake though.

Making this a party political argument is missing the point - British farming needs supporting AND the government need to raise some cash. Both things are true.

Fuck Tescos, shop local.

Over and out.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Hmm. This deflection thing again. Uncanny.

If someone posts an obviously fake photo, then people are going to say its fake. Why wouldn't that happen?

The world has moved on from that. Only you are still discussing it.

Do you think that the farmers were justified in blocking roads and potentially impacting ambulances?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

 

[Brewster's millions]

The world has moved on from that. Only you are still discussing it.

Do you think that the farmers were justified in blocking roads and potentially impacting ambulances?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

Again, another weird post.

You posted about questioning the veracity of the photo, and now the world has moved on and I'm the only person still discussing it.

None of it makes any sense does it? I suppose its my fault for engaging with you and enabling your behaviour.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

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Do you think that the farmers were justified in blocking roads and potentially impacting ambulances?

A simple yes or no will suffice.

 

[Citi-leaks]

This is “one of those” threads where people just talk to themselves isn’t it. Like all the politics and brexit type threads.

So here’s my balanced but only vaguely informed view on this topic:

I spend a lot of time in our countryside and I want British farming to succeed. It depresses me that we import so much stuff that we shouldn’t.

Yes farmers should be inheritance tax just like everyone else who owns a lot of assets. HOWEVER it is also true that not all farmers are multi millionaires just because they own land that is on paper valuable - it is a business, and farmers incur astronomical costs. It isn’t equivalent to someone owning a massive house with acres and acres of land, and it shouldn’t be treated as such.

The country is skint and the government have to try and raise money somehow.

The real enemy to British farming is the massive supermarkets - constantly jacking up prices to the public while offering farmers a pittance for their produce. Tesco made THREE BILLION POUNDS PROFIT last year, ripping off both suppliers and customers. That isn’t right.

Everyone has a right to protest. I haven’t read anything about blocking in ambulances but an ambulance would know in advance whether a road was closed, and the big tractor protests would have to clear their routes with the police ahead of time.

The image posted above is definitely a fake though.

Making this a party political argument is missing the point - British farming needs supporting AND the government need to raise some cash. Both things are true.

Fuck Tescos, shop local.

Over and out.

Tesco aren't jacking up the prices, they are reducing them to keep up with the German discounters that came in a drove all the prices down. This is what actually screwed all the farmers in the UK

If Tesco have to match the price of milk at Aldi and Lidl, then they have to buy it for the same price as Aldi and Lidl, as well as paying their 300,000 employee's.

People rejoice in the low cost shopping options of the German retailers, but in reality their model is only sustainable by having unscrupulous methods of practice. Which includes shafting their suppliers and staff.

If British retailers ignored this threat, they would go out of business pretty quick. In the last 10 years we have seen the start of this race to the bottom in our supermarkets. Where we used to have fish counters, bakers, butchers and deli counters. This is all being ripped out and replaced with imitation Aldi shite. In the next decade, supermarkets will only provide a very basic selection of produce, stacked in cardboard boxes on the floor with no staff and automated tills.

Take these discounters out of the equation, and you would see a much more level playing field across the entire industry, especially farming.