Media discussion - 2024/25

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Meanwhile the media in germany, just wanted to share some thoughts from here:

Hamann:

In his column on Sky, the expert wrote about the current situation at the Sky Blues. He is not convinced that the ManCity cycle will continue in its current form. “Some players are in the fall or late fall of their careers and are no longer able to play at the highest level. Since Wednesday, it's finally clear that the time of this team with players like De Bruyne, Gündogan, Bernardo or Stones is over,” said Hamann.

He continued: “The new players they brought in during the winter (Marmoush, Gonzalez and Khusanov) are certainly good players, but the question is whether they can raise City back to their previous level. They will have to make a big cut and I have strong doubts whether this step will be possible with Guardiola.” And this despite the fact that Guardiola has just extended his contract. In the long term.

Manchester City is in an interesting, but also critical situation. Fundamental decisions have to be made. According to Hamann, one of these could also affect Guardiola: “If you want to rebuild a team, you need patience, but also energy and fire. And I don't see that in Guardiola at the moment. I can hardly imagine him staying at City beyond the summer. A separation would perhaps be best for both sides.”

However, there are no signs of this at the moment. One thing is clear, however: there is no question that the Spaniard is currently more frazzled than ever before and has also suffered nervous damage.
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Pit Gotschalk:

Coach Pep Guardiola and Manchester City have been knocked out of the Champions League in a high arc and are now facing a lot of ridicule. I have no sympathy for them.

Manchester City is no longer the club that once gave German soldier and goalkeeper Bert Trautmann a second chance in life and made him a legend on the island.

This is the club that used tricks to circumvent regulations and level the playing field and found loopholes in the law so that trophies and triumphs could be bought with millions in subsidies from Abu Dhabi.

Every top European club pushes the boundaries of what is legally permissible when it comes to financing its wickedly expensive star ensemble. But Manchester City already has one foot over the red line.

The Premier League counted at least 115 breaches of financial regulations. It is possible that the light blue team cannot be reprimanded despite this. It's almost a good thing that the sport stopped the Champions League season early.

It was Real Madrid who knocked out Manchester City, a club that can't manage money properly itself. But I'll be honest: I'd much rather see the Whites in the round of 16.
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Co-commentator DAZN, brother from Schweinsteiger:

Schweinsteiger: “Frightening, you feel sorry for Man City when you see it like that. No coordination in the back line - and Mbappé ... they can't switch gears that quickly.”
 
I agree we should declare the most vituperative and slanderous individuals persona non grata (or should that be personae as the plural?).

We should also provide a full-size cardboard cutout of Pep at a press conference, or a ventriloquist with a Pep-lookalike dummy. We could have some fun with that!

"What do you say to that Pep?"
Pep dummy whispers in his ear.
"Yes I know it was a fucking stupid question Pep but there's no need to call Mr Stone a big-nosed twat".

Personae non gratae ....
 
We will never ban anybody - it’s an absolute free for all for everybody to have a pop.

John Bishop went on national radio with multiple libellous statements earlier this year - a couple of days after announcing shows at our Co Op Arena ! Free for all taking shots !

The majority of journos mentioned above for banning will never set foot in the Etihad anyway - they write snide opinion pieces away from football stadiums.

But I hope we are keeping powder dry until after 115 is concluded. Doubt it - but we can but hope.
 
Meanwhile the media in germany, just wanted to share some thoughts from here:

Hamann:

In his column on Sky, the expert wrote about the current situation at the Sky Blues. He is not convinced that the ManCity cycle will continue in its current form. “Some players are in the fall or late fall of their careers and are no longer able to play at the highest level. Since Wednesday, it's finally clear that the time of this team with players like De Bruyne, Gündogan, Bernardo or Stones is over,” said Hamann.

He continued: “The new players they brought in during the winter (Marmoush, Gonzalez and Khusanov) are certainly good players, but the question is whether they can raise City back to their previous level. They will have to make a big cut and I have strong doubts whether this step will be possible with Guardiola.” And this despite the fact that Guardiola has just extended his contract. In the long term.

Manchester City is in an interesting, but also critical situation. Fundamental decisions have to be made. According to Hamann, one of these could also affect Guardiola: “If you want to rebuild a team, you need patience, but also energy and fire. And I don't see that in Guardiola at the moment. I can hardly imagine him staying at City beyond the summer. A separation would perhaps be best for both sides.”

However, there are no signs of this at the moment. One thing is clear, however: there is no question that the Spaniard is currently more frazzled than ever before and has also suffered nervous damage.
________________

Pit Gotschalk:

Coach Pep Guardiola and Manchester City have been knocked out of the Champions League in a high arc and are now facing a lot of ridicule. I have no sympathy for them.

Manchester City is no longer the club that once gave German soldier and goalkeeper Bert Trautmann a second chance in life and made him a legend on the island.

This is the club that used tricks to circumvent regulations and level the playing field and found loopholes in the law so that trophies and triumphs could be bought with millions in subsidies from Abu Dhabi.

Every top European club pushes the boundaries of what is legally permissible when it comes to financing its wickedly expensive star ensemble. But Manchester City already has one foot over the red line.

The Premier League counted at least 115 breaches of financial regulations. It is possible that the light blue team cannot be reprimanded despite this. It's almost a good thing that the sport stopped the Champions League season early.

It was Real Madrid who knocked out Manchester City, a club that can't manage money properly itself. But I'll be honest: I'd much rather see the Whites in the round of 16.
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Co-commentator DAZN, brother from Schweinsteiger:

Schweinsteiger: “Frightening, you feel sorry for Man City when you see it like that. No coordination in the back line - and Mbappé ... they can't switch gears that quickly.”
Well if the second guy isn't liable I don't know what is
 
Meanwhile the media in germany, just wanted to share some thoughts from here:

Hamann:

In his column on Sky, the expert wrote about the current situation at the Sky Blues. He is not convinced that the ManCity cycle will continue in its current form. “Some players are in the fall or late fall of their careers and are no longer able to play at the highest level. Since Wednesday, it's finally clear that the time of this team with players like De Bruyne, Gündogan, Bernardo or Stones is over,” said Hamann.

He continued: “The new players they brought in during the winter (Marmoush, Gonzalez and Khusanov) are certainly good players, but the question is whether they can raise City back to their previous level. They will have to make a big cut and I have strong doubts whether this step will be possible with Guardiola.” And this despite the fact that Guardiola has just extended his contract. In the long term.

Manchester City is in an interesting, but also critical situation. Fundamental decisions have to be made. According to Hamann, one of these could also affect Guardiola: “If you want to rebuild a team, you need patience, but also energy and fire. And I don't see that in Guardiola at the moment. I can hardly imagine him staying at City beyond the summer. A separation would perhaps be best for both sides.”

However, there are no signs of this at the moment. One thing is clear, however: there is no question that the Spaniard is currently more frazzled than ever before and has also suffered nervous damage.
________________

Pit Gotschalk:

Coach Pep Guardiola and Manchester City have been knocked out of the Champions League in a high arc and are now facing a lot of ridicule. I have no sympathy for them.

Manchester City is no longer the club that once gave German soldier and goalkeeper Bert Trautmann a second chance in life and made him a legend on the island.

This is the club that used tricks to circumvent regulations and level the playing field and found loopholes in the law so that trophies and triumphs could be bought with millions in subsidies from Abu Dhabi.

Every top European club pushes the boundaries of what is legally permissible when it comes to financing its wickedly expensive star ensemble. But Manchester City already has one foot over the red line.

The Premier League counted at least 115 breaches of financial regulations. It is possible that the light blue team cannot be reprimanded despite this. It's almost a good thing that the sport stopped the Champions League season early.

It was Real Madrid who knocked out Manchester City, a club that can't manage money properly itself. But I'll be honest: I'd much rather see the Whites in the round of 16.
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Co-commentator DAZN, brother from Schweinsteiger:

Schweinsteiger: “Frightening, you feel sorry for Man City when you see it like that. No coordination in the back line - and Mbappé ... they can't switch gears that quickly.”
I am not sure that Pep needs psychological advice from Didi Hamann who spent his period at City living off recreational drugs and alcohol in the bars and clubs of Manchester.
 
They don't have to........ fortunately, everyone can see it for themselves.

I'm enjoying watching the rag's media coverage. The days of spinning and turd polishing is long gone.

Certain parts of the media are actually sticking the boot in. Which I like to think comes from a place of self annoyance and anger for backing the wrong horse for far to long.
It’s made it somewhat easier for them as they can now all jump on the Liverpool bandwagon…..
 
I am not sure that Pep needs psychological advice from Didi Hamann who spent his period at City living off recreational drugs and alcohol in the bars and clubs of Manchester.
I'm completely with you, I just wanted to share the coverage in germany with you.
 
Well if the second guy isn't liable I don't know what is
It appears that the German media is just as bad as the English one. Both articles are totally false and libellous (under British laws). Not a surprise after Der Spiegel reported as "fact" two emails from different dates which had been pasted together to distort the allegations against City.
 
If you ask here: City are largely despised in Germany, the main reason being the immense transfer expenditure and the sheikh.
 
Yes thanks for sharing. It is worrying that the false narrative is circulated so widely across Europe. Mind you the well in Germany has been poisoned by the antics of the Bayern Munich Directors who have waged war on City for years.
What do you mean by that? No offense, just would like to hear your opinion.
 
Despite Clive I fear this will be another BBC clickbait stitch-up. How can they spin it out for four episodes? The BBC coverage on this issue so far has been a disgrace. Riddled with mistakes and false claims from Stone and Roan. I have no confidence they will get it right.
You are right not to be confident!

I've listened to all 4 epsiodes and there wasn't anything new in there - just charting the history of City since the 70s. The joy of 93.20 and Champions League etc. Lot's of clipped contributions from the likes of Nedum, Parker, Cheeseman, Brobyn and Big Steve. All fine.

The biggest contribution was from the Der Spiegel guy who gave a rehash about the leaks and emails.Pearce a liar etc. He was his normal vindictive self and very supportive of Pinto. Yet again absolutely no take whatsover on our side of the story as documented so well on here.

Kieran Maguire clipped saying we could expect, in his view, a hefty points points penalty IF the IC finds against us for the more serious offences. They didn't play the other clip where he thinks it wil be very difficult for the PL to prove.
Di Marco didn't add anything of significance either.
 
It’s nothing to do with the transfer expenditure but they fear us. There’s a whole host of clubs who’ve spent more.
Thought we have the biggest net spending since 2008, but not 100% sure.
 
You are right not to be confident!

I've listened to all 4 epsiodes and there wasn't anything new in there - just charting the history of City since the 70s. The joy of 93.20 and Champions League etc. Lot's of clipped contributions from the likes of Nedum, Parker, Cheeseman, Brobyn and Big Steve. All fine.

The biggest contribution was from the Der Spiegel guy who gave a rehash about the leaks and emails.Pearce a liar etc. He was his normal vindictive self and very supportive of Pinto. Yet again absolutely no take whatsover on our side of the story as documented so well on here.

Kieran Maguire clipped saying we could expect, in his view, a hefty points points penalty IF the IC finds against us for the more serious offences. They didn't play the other clip where he thinks it wil be very difficult for the PL to prove.
Di Marco didn't add anything of significance either.
Thanks I won't waste any time listening to it. Der Spiegel were discredited by the CAS case. The emails were dismissed totally by the independent Judges. Pinto was caught bang to rights trying to extort money and is still under investigation. I followed the court case in the Portugese media. The evidence against Pinto was overwhelming. He admitted the extortion charges. The BBC, who ignored the entire court case (despite carrying a large preview article smearing City), must think we are all fucking stupid.
 
Meanwhile the media in germany, just wanted to share some thoughts from here:

Hamann:

In his column on Sky, the expert wrote about the current situation at the Sky Blues. He is not convinced that the ManCity cycle will continue in its current form. “Some players are in the fall or late fall of their careers and are no longer able to play at the highest level. Since Wednesday, it's finally clear that the time of this team with players like De Bruyne, Gündogan, Bernardo or Stones is over,” said Hamann.

He continued: “The new players they brought in during the winter (Marmoush, Gonzalez and Khusanov) are certainly good players, but the question is whether they can raise City back to their previous level. They will have to make a big cut and I have strong doubts whether this step will be possible with Guardiola.” And this despite the fact that Guardiola has just extended his contract. In the long term.

Manchester City is in an interesting, but also critical situation. Fundamental decisions have to be made. According to Hamann, one of these could also affect Guardiola: “If you want to rebuild a team, you need patience, but also energy and fire. And I don't see that in Guardiola at the moment. I can hardly imagine him staying at City beyond the summer. A separation would perhaps be best for both sides.”

However, there are no signs of this at the moment. One thing is clear, however: there is no question that the Spaniard is currently more frazzled than ever before and has also suffered nervous damage.
________________

Pit Gotschalk:

Coach Pep Guardiola and Manchester City have been knocked out of the Champions League in a high arc and are now facing a lot of ridicule. I have no sympathy for them.

Manchester City is no longer the club that once gave German soldier and goalkeeper Bert Trautmann a second chance in life and made him a legend on the island.

This is the club that used tricks to circumvent regulations and level the playing field and found loopholes in the law so that trophies and triumphs could be bought with millions in subsidies from Abu Dhabi.

Every top European club pushes the boundaries of what is legally permissible when it comes to financing its wickedly expensive star ensemble. But Manchester City already has one foot over the red line.

The Premier League counted at least 115 breaches of financial regulations. It is possible that the light blue team cannot be reprimanded despite this. It's almost a good thing that the sport stopped the Champions League season early.

It was Real Madrid who knocked out Manchester City, a club that can't manage money properly itself. But I'll be honest: I'd much rather see the Whites in the round of 16.
________________
Co-commentator DAZN, brother from Schweinsteiger:

Schweinsteiger: “Frightening, you feel sorry for Man City when you see it like that. No coordination in the back line - and Mbappé ... they can't switch gears that quickly.”
I didn’t particularly enjoy reading that, but thanks for sharing.
 
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