TonyColemansbagofapples
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This is much better
Away fans / tourists in home sections
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There is nothing wrong with new City fans. They will and should always be welcome. Unfortunately, and I mean that carefully, there are a lot of tourist fans, and tourist fans who support other clubs, and have no real interest in supporting city genuinely or passionately, who are getting home match tickets instead of genuine City fans, especially from the Gtr Manchester area.
Tourists are getting tickets through ticket touting websites, and through partner ticket touting websites linked to the club.
The amount of tourist Real Madrid fans all over the City ends was unreal. They had clearly come to watch Real Madrid first and foremost, even though they were wearing half and half scarfs, with the Real Madrid section of the scarf showing around their necks.
The other issue is the cost of match tickets. If people had to make a choice between a PL match and a CL match in the same week, the vast majority of genuine City fans will always pick the PL match. For the vast majority of City fans they cannot afford a £75 PL ticket, and then a £50 CL ticket in the same week.
Unfortunately for City, there is now a genuine belief that the club don't care who they sell home tickets to as long as they sell as many tickets as they can to get the ground full and to increase match day revenues. The increase in match day revenues has become the most important thing to the club. That overrides everything including home fan safety, the atmosphere, etc.
Why ignore the real madrid game ?
This was the most recent example of a ticket policy that is spiralling out of control
I've raised this issue before , City stewards have completely ignored vast number of away fans wearing their club colours as they gain entry to home areas of the stadium
Leaving the etihad v madrid was like leaving the ground at their place
Yet if I try to get in with a bottle of water I get challenged by stewards
City's head of security has proved to be incapable of protecting City fans in our own ground and it's only a matter of time before there is a really bad big incident at etihad
The new ticketing czar is another one whose more interested in banning odd City fans than preventing whole scale infiltration of home areas by away fans , they are both ex coppers with no idea how football fans think or behave
Prophet of Doom
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So you are talking about a match 9 years ago !!! Genius. We are talking about what has been going on for the last 2 years which you probably don’t know about as you tell us you no longer go to the matches.
Have a read through the thread and wise up. We all have evidence. Nobody is interested what the club said to City Matters 10 years ago - we want to know how tickets sold back to the club in the exchange THIS SEASON are never being put up for sale to genuine fans - but magically being sold via agencies.
Nobody was paying £300 for normal tickets 9 years ago. That Celtic game is completely different and was much easier to source tickets for and be passed on to away fans. No connection to what is going on with the games like Madrid the other week.
The agencies are getting huge slices of the available tickets at all PL clubs FROM THE CLUBS. Not just a problem at City - all of them are at it.
LFC fans were on the radio last week making exactly the same accusations of their club.
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The Madrid game was unreal
So many people posing on the steps having photos taken, stewards actually helping them!
The 3 lads sat a couple down from me just sat there, didn't do anything at all, not even a clap out of them, strange stuff.
So many people posing on the steps having photos taken, stewards actually helping them!
The 3 lads sat a couple down from me just sat there, didn't do anything at all, not even a clap out of them, strange stuff.
Tim of the Oak
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I paid more than that to buy a City vs Huddersfield ticket to repay a poster who had let me have a ticket for the Manchester Derby. It’s not a new phenomena and Everton in the League Cup semi final and Celtic in the CL were the two biggest instances.
Yes the recent Madrid game was a pisstake but the difference now seems to be City Matters and 1894 have beater contacts with the media to highlight instances.
Hmmmm, unsure where i stand on this.
Unaffiliated fans watching the game live is going to be smaller, without doubt, than international Blues and Madrid/away fans getting into the home end. Furthermore, if you restrict unaffiliated fans to those who have travelled overseas, instead of those in the UK as well, then you certainly are creating a small subset.
However, I've been to quite a lot of random European games over the years, with friends, and it's certainly a thing around Europe to attend football games as something to do with mates and have a weekend away. Less than 50 might be a little too conservative, but still it's a very niche subset.
Marvin.
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I know there were loads of Real Madrid fans because they were all around me celebrating at the end but I am not sure that there is this 3rd category of football tourist. Mobile phones and half and half scarves are not a meaningful indicator imo.
I agree with your final point about the club emphasising match-day revenues and not thinking about the impact on atmosphere is an issue.
Manc Born & Bred
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The point still stands that the club must be aware where every ticket starts therefore making it very easy to track whether it be paper or digital. What exactly is the point of paying a ticket compliance manager if they can’t do the basics. That said part of his brief will be not to investigate the club.
What will eventually happen is innocent (City) fans will either be attacked or will become inadvertently embroiled in a fight between an home fan and an away fan in the home end, and end up getting injured.
Fans will sue the clubs, win the cases, and it will open the floodgates for similar clases up and down the country.
At the moment the clubs are getting away with it because home fans haven't gone down that route yet, or the clubs are bending over backwards appeasing fans, so they don't sue the clubs.
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Betterdeedthan red
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If the club were simply honest and acknowledged that they have a specific quantity of tickets that they would like to mark up, and then sold them through the club instead of using resellers, I would actually respect them more. There is a scandalous lack of transparency in all aspects of ticketing.
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The Celtic game was ridiculous a few years back - when they did the light thing on their phones you could see there were thousands of them. But it’s completely different situation to what we have now.
It was easy to get tickets for those Everton and Celtic games. I had Scottish friends come down for the game and their whole minibus got tickets from City supporters- it was easy to buy and easy to pass on. And the demand from City supporters much less for both games.
The situation we have now where the club is allowing tickets to be sold to anybody via agencies that is prepared to pay £300 is new - and really only started during the treble season. These tickets are leaving out the back door - not available to supporters with points and memberships etc.
There are mate. There might be %age, but you can tell.
There were 100's of North African football fans at the Real Madrid match. And by North African football fans I mean Tunisians, Moroccans, Algerians, Libyans, Egyptians, etc, who had come to see Real Madrid play. Real Madrid are massive in North Africa, so it was a fantastic opportunity for UK based North Africans to see Real Madrid play.
The Light Was Yellow Sir
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“Football clubs have a duty to provide a safe environment for both their fans and visiting supporters, and at the professional level, investment in comprehensive security measures is key. These include robust stewarding, the presence of trained security personnel, and advanced surveillance systems within the stadium.”
You could easily argue that selling tickets to away fans is a huge breach of this and is a litigation waiting to happen.
You could easily argue that selling tickets to away fans is a huge breach of this and is a litigation waiting to happen.
mitch's tours
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Apparently the club(before he was employed by the club) ban any City fan reported by the Police for any offence committed. That is not the law of the land in which you are innocent until proven guilty.
I personally know of one case where a supporter was immediately banned from attending City games due to an incident reported at an away game.
The club still took all his cup scheme ticket money and his seasoncard money for this season.
That person never made a court appearance so was never charged with any offence.
He has now been reinstated but has received no apology, explanation of thee Clubs actions or more importantly received no compensation for all the games they took money for!!!
Thursday night, the wrong mix of fans: Anderlecht fans booting off with Fenerbahce fans after they were celebrating their team scoring in the home end.
The game had to be suspended for 15 minutes.
Telling you straight up, there’s going to be a riot somewhere soon. Or worse, someone/some people are going to be killed. Can see it a mile off because there’ll be a mix of fans who are both up for it or both hate each other, and neither will take a backwards step. There’ll be carnage somewhere soon.
