Liverpool (H) | PL | Post Match Thread

[HorlocksWalk]

Our season was summed up with Dias's pass out of defence hitting Kovacic's backside.

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

I thought we played OK, today. It was down to fine margins. If Marmoush stays onside then we are back in the game. Marmoush should have also squared it to Foden when he shot.
Liverpool did not look great but took their opportunities.
I honestly don't think we are a million miles away. We need full backs and a replacement for Kev.
The fact that Doku, Savinho, Nico and Khus were our best players today, gives me some hope for the future.

I thought we were fine today but not effective, whereas the Redshite were effective. The stats at HT showed the same tale of all the ball in blue, most of the shots on target but a defense that when it was cornered just hooved it, whereas we have to play it out, get caught and hey ho!

 

[half & half derby scarf]

Our season was summed up with Dias's pass out of defence hitting Kovacic's backside.

What a recovery tackle by Khusanov though!

 

[stan bowles]

They cruised through that game and had several gears left if they needed them - but they didn't. I doubt Salah broke sweat all game. They let us have the ball for long periods and knew we were toothless in attack. I wouldn't expect to see goals like that conceded at Conference level.
Special mention for Foden and De Bruyne who both had dreadful games. De Bruyne must realise it's over for him at this level after that performance.
The subs ? Kovetic, Gundogan and Dias - hardly building for the long term. No reserve striker on the bench. Marmoush - hmmmm...where was he when Doku was crossing it in the first half especially. Surely his job was to get in the box to feed off what Doku and Savinho produced. Neither him or Foden were anywhere to be seen. Might as well start McAtee next game if that's the best Foden can do.
All too slow, too safe, too passive. Too many touches slowing everything down to give them a chance to regroup and reorganise. Oh for a Fernadinho or anyone who could put a tackle in and show a bit of steel or to bollock someone when the time is right. No balls or fight in this dressing room.

 

[David White]

Thankful that the scousers didn’t kick into another gear. We had loads of the ball but we never troubled them at all really. On the odd occasion they went forward they looked infinitely more dangerous than us.

2 poor goals to concede. We’ll concede them again and again playing the way we do. There is just nothing about us any more.

Khusanov our best player. I’m excited to see him continue to develop.

Doku is a strange one. Had Trent beat seven ways from Sunday but did absolutely zero after drifting past him time after time. Nothing. Not a decent ball in, not a decent shot. Nothing.

We compress teams with our slow and ponderous ambling up field, let them set up and then wonder why we aren’t scoring. We delay and delay and take a shot when the chance has gone. Then we’re all over the place when defending.

I can’t get worked up today. I expected a hammering and I’m glad it didn’t come. But we’ve changed nothing at all this season. We don’t learn, we don’t adapt and we aren’t progressing.

I’m bored of hearing Pep telling the media that there are too many games, or that we have no chance, or that we can’t cope physically. I don’t care who he brings in, this style of football is done and I just don’t understand why he’s sticking with it. We have shown even at times this season that we can play quickly and decisively but we have to give up a little control and up the risk. So why not let them go for it more?

I want him here. I want him to rebuild. He’s rightfully earned his position at the top of the game so surely he can coach a different way and play to the strengths of the squad he has. If the only solution to us not getting beat by teams who can’t afford to shop in the same places we can is to buy expensive players then fuck me that’s a sobering thought.

We have performed appallingly against the top teams this season. We haven’t troubled any of them. I don’t care about trophies, I care about us being competitive and showing a bit of pride. This lot have no bollocks.

Up the fucking toothless walking football blues.

 

[Moss Side's Finest]

It's shockingly bad! I can only compare how our team currently play to watching a football trials game. It's akin to watching 11 random players, all wearing the same shirt, but with absolutely zero collective responsibility or plan. Everyone of them just does their own thing and trying to impress for their own benefit. Some of them should not even be on the pitch. KDB has began to look that out of touch that even basic passes are beyond him. Lewis is nothing more that a Guardiola vanity project, and would not get a sniff at another Premier League team. Foden clearly contributes more the his feckin barber than he does to our team. And all of it, is at the behest of one man, Pep Guardiola! Nothing, absolutely nothing, will change until he has gone.

I wish you'd go you clown

 

[David White]

Our season was summed up with Dias's pass out of defence hitting Kovacic's backside.

Not an ounce of pressure on him either when he did it

 

[eyalluvitt]

We look like exactly what we've become, a side trying to get in the top 4. Not a top team, not a challenger, just another team. The reasons for it have been, and can be debated forever and a day. The upside is that as a club we're very well positioned to rectify the teams shortcomings. I don't think a lot of what's happened on the pitch this season will be at all palatable to some at the club.

Now our owners have said they won’t sack Pep but won’t stand in his way if he wants to go, could be the kiss of death

 

[citytillicry65]

We look like exactly what we've become, a side trying to get in the top 4. Not a top team, not a challenger, just another team. The reasons for it have been, and can be debated forever and a day. The upside is that as a club we're very well positioned to rectify the teams shortcomings. I don't think a lot of what's happened on the pitch this season will be at all palatable to some at the club.

Does Pep understand the gravity of the situation? We still play a suicidally high line. And there's no press

 

[Saddleworth2]

I’m looking for the bright spots. Khusanov, Doku, Savinho, Josko …
It’s good that they are all the youngsters.

 

[citytillicry65]

They cruised through that game and had several gears left if they needed them - but they didn't. I doubt Salah broke sweat all game. They let us have the ball for long periods and knew we were toothless in attack. I wouldn't expect to see goals like that conceded at Conference level.
Special mention for Foden and De Bruyne who both had dreadful games. De Bruyne must realise it's over for him at this level after that performance.
The subs ? Kovetic, Gundogan and Dias - hardly building for the long term. No reserve striker on the bench. Marmoush - hmmmm...where was he when Doku was crossing it in the first half especially. Surely his job was to get in the box to feed off what Doku and Savinho produced. Neither him or Foden were anywhere to be seen. Might as well start McAtee next game if that's the best Foden can do.
All too slow, too safe, too passive. Too many touches slowing everything down to give them a chance to regroup and reorganise. Oh for a Fernadinho or anyone who could put a tackle in and show a bit of steel or to bollock someone when the time is right. No balls or fight in this dressing room.

Absolutely spot on (sadly)

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

Just got home, thoroughly drenched and dejected, but not really surprised, as once I saw the team sheet I just couldn't see anything different

Does anyone seriously believe that Haaland's injury is just a niggle?
Am I the only one who wonders how we're ever going to score from a Doku cross if his team mates don't flood the box, particularly a left footed player at the near post?
What the fuck has happened to Foden?


Liverpool deserve to be champions but too many of our big names have fallen off a cliff and it will take time for the new signings (plus next summer's arrivals) to take the club forward

 

[ballbag]

Not great. Not as bad as previous games though. But didn't look like we'd ever score.
Defence is still shit, but guess injuries haven't helped. Still, it'd be nice if we started trying to put a tackle in during one of those 40 yard runs several players make against us every game.
So slow moving the ball.
Hurry up next season.

 

[Moss Side's Finest]

Now our owners have said they won’t sack Pep but won’t stand in his way if he wants to go, could be the kiss of death

Where have 'they' said this? Do you have the quotes?

 

[Stelea]

He's not wrong though.

Our corners are the worst in the league. Way over hit. Easy catch for the keeper or fail to beat the first man.

No one makes a run or tries to confuse the opponents, or blocks defenders.

Our set piece coach needs fucking off!!

Do we have one?
Probably got fucked off with the Kit Man and Groundsman

 

[Roachy]

Now our owners have said they won’t sack Pep but won’t stand in his way if he wants to go, could be the kiss of death

Well I'm m taking it that Pep's here and he's going to rebuild the team. That started in Jan and needs to be continued in the summer with no sentiment involved and no more half arsed signings either.

 

[Uncle Wally One Ball]

Now our owners have said they won’t sack Pep but won’t stand in his way if he wants to go, could be the kiss of death

Source for that?

 

[ONTHERUNWITHTHAKSIN]

Both Doku and Savihno going past players and no one in the middle

And Khusanov you are a breath of fresh air

 

[simon23]

Other than that...

We are tucked and Viana has a huge task on his hands...one that is not going to be sorted in one summer transfer window

 

[Palerider]

Doku is a strange one. Had Trent beat seven ways from Sunday but did absolutely zero after drifting past him time after time. Nothing. Not a decent ball in, not a decent shot. Nothing.

What do they do in training? Surely both the player and the coaches must see this? With all the technology available today they could sit down with each player and discuss their in match thinking.