Away fans / tourists in home sections

[Groke]

Nothing ventured, nothing gained, ah Bobby.

Make sure you tune into Talkshite to find out.

Good night.

Perhaps mention the scandalous prices for kids - seems the club would prefer to have a tourist in a seat rather than a young local city fan.

 

[LEXSTARproject]

@Alex - City Matters

 

[mayo31]

Was it the one shared the other day on ticket prices??

No it was asking about social media but also had questions about how as a supporter we feel the club is doing for us.

 

[East Level 2]

And there we fucking have it, and THAT is what the complaining is about. They shouldn't hold anything back for tourists and certainly not block seats when blues can't sit with their families or friends.

I hope this turns into bad press for them.

Exactly. We should be "growing the brand" on the pitch not via ticket prices and selling via touting agencies. If people want souvenirs they can buy online.

 

[jrb]

Campaigns on ticket prices I support. But the discussion on 'tourists' is tinged with racism.

Calling a person a tourist isn't racist or racism.

What are people called when they go abroad to another country for a holiday or a weekend break.

They are called .....

Manchester And Liverpool Are England’s Soccer Tourism Hubs​

A Manchester United and Manchester City half and half scarf prior to the Premier League match at Old Trafford on March 8, 2020.

Manchester And Liverpool Are England’s Soccer Tourism Hubs

London might get the most tourists, but England's North West region sees a much higher proportion of overseas visitors going there specifically for soccer. And one of the key reasons that tourists go to Premier League stadiums is the matchday atmosphere.

www.forbes.com

 

[bluemullet]

We now have three categories of match attendees, which in many respects is a good thing, because it widens the fanbase -:
1) PL ....Traditional diehards.

2) Domestic Cups......Diehards, displaced fans, priced out fans, young Mancunians and families ( depending on ticket prices)

3) CL....Less diehards, some young displaced fans, some young Mancunians & families, thousands of tourists and 'one off' visitors.

Sensible, affordable pricing and conditions could shift the attendance balance back in favour of diehards, displaced,priced out young Mancunians and families.

Finally, is it possible to create a block in CBL1 or 3 exclusively for tourists and visitors, (neutral, mixed section), largely away from regular fans and out of sight of TV coverage ??

Brighton......£250 million interest free shareholder loan for years.

The ' invisible' financial advantage that City have highlighted as unlawful.

Retrospective, commercial 'high risk', compound interest charges should be payable ....in Brightons case say 10% per annum X length of the loan, millions of £ £ £ £ £ £s

No wonder Bloomberg voted against City's proposals.

Fair point that and one I did know in retrospect.

We now have three categories of match attendees, which in many respects is a good thing, because it widens the fanbase -:
1) PL ....Traditional diehards.

2) Domestic Cups......Diehards, displaced fans, priced out fans, young Mancunians and families ( depending on ticket prices)

3) CL....Less diehards, some young displaced fans, some young Mancunians & families, thousands of tourists and 'one off' visitors.

Sensible, affordable pricing and conditions could shift the attendance balance back in favour of diehards, displaced,priced out young Mancunians and families.

Finally, is it possible to create a block in CBL1 or 3 exclusively for tourists and visitors, (neutral, mixed section), largely away from regular fans and out of sight of TV coverage ??

Brighton......£250 million interest free shareholder loan for years.

The ' invisible' financial advantage that City have highlighted as unlawful.

Retrospective, commercial 'high risk', compound interest charges should be payable ....in Brightons case say 10% per annum X length of the loan, millions of £ £ £ £ £ £s

No wonder Bloomberg voted against City's proposals.

Good point mate, one I was aware of in retrospect. The difference in how fans and owners view their club/business is poles apart and therein lies crux of the problem. How we manage to bridge those differences is the question highlighted by these issues and not an easy one to find an answer to.

 

[give it to gordon]

This was on Sunday morning, before the Liverpool game, but I was on Talksport with Henry Winter and Shaun Curtis to talk about away fans in home areas and wider ticket price issues. About 1 hour 18 minutes in.



Good luck to 1894 today.

Alex glad you mentioned City fans are from everywhere.
I left Manchester aged 6 some 58 years ago, not have a real manc accent. My mates all the same age from Newcastle, midlands and Kent all have southern accent but we have followed City all around England and some go abroad. My lad has a southern accent but is 4th generation blue.

We have to be careful when talking about tourist, not all die hard City fans have manc accents ;)

 

[Prophet of Doom]

Wrong. It’s on the club. You really couldn’t be any further off beam with that post. Most match-going United fans will absolutely empathise with a lot of the points raised in this thread, given the issues that arose at their game against Rangers the other week, where it was clear for all to see that the club had sold blocks of tickets in home areas to Rangers fans then tried to gaslight their whole fanbase into thinking it was United fans selling their tickets on.

I suggest you have a read of the below and educate yourself before spouting unfounded bollocks:

Said at the time that Utds excuse to blame home supporters for selling on tickets was shameful. This is exactly the same as the bollocks City were telling City Matters last week.

All of them are at it chasing money.

 

[Marvin.]

In a crowd of 50-odd thousand people, sadly there will be some racists but what that has to do with 1894 I don't know.

It's the association of Asian fans with 'tourism' I object to. The trend of local Asians coming to City is a positive but it feels like they are being identified by some as 'tourists'. Campaigns about tourists in the home ends are highly problematic.

I support campaigns on pricing, ticket distribution and the work done on banners and singing.

 

[paulchapo]

Just thinking about this picture at least City would have got another 10quid out of him to use the bag lockers

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Ha ha every cloud and all that. I understand football tourists. I spoke to an Indian one a few years ago now on the tram after a game. He was visiting Manchester and did the Old Trafford tour then our tour and game. I think he was going to watch a rag game before going home. A decent bloke and for him it was all very exciting. A lot just don't understand the fierce rivalry in the English game. On Sunday there would have been some there who supported both clubs, as we're two of the biggest now and well known in world football. They wouldn't see anything wrong in jumping up if either team scored. Unfortunately for them they found out too late you can't do that.

On the flip side you get absolute disrespectful wankers. A few years ago I had three German fans next to me in the south stand. Tourists, they were taking in our game but were mainly there to see Mahrez who was a sub. They chatted briefly to.me but were taking selfies etcetera. I can't quite remember what game it was, it might have been Brentford at home when Toney scored the winner in the last minute. It was a game we lost I remember that. As our fans started streaming out they called us plastics, saying German fans support their club to the end. Of course they got ripped a new arsehole by me and a brief history lesson at just how loyal our fans have been over the years. Utter cunts and I've not wanted to fill somebody in as much as a game for years as much as those three wankers. Tourist fans need to show some respect and be mindful of where they are otherwise they'll keep getting slapped. You don't go into somebody's home and take the piss, being at a game is the same.

 

[jrb]

It's all over Google.

From 2019. Quite a bit dated, but it still applies in 2025.

Football tourism - why it's not just half and half scarves

Football tourism is a booming industry and there is currently no hotter destination than the Premier League.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

That can’t be real ffs

It’s not surprising to me. Overseas fans are being sold the clubs as tourist destinations and he’s doing what tourists do. He probably has no idea what he’s doing “wrong” because it’s a cultural thing to some degree that if he isn’t told about it won’t understand. Possibly he bought the rag-scum-swamp guff for a mate, who knows.

 

[paulchapo]

It's the association of Asian fans with 'tourism' I object to. The trend of local Asians coming to City is a positive but it feels like they are being identified by some as 'tourists'. Campaigns about tourists in the home ends are highly problematic.

I support campaigns on pricing, ticket distribution and the work done on banners and singing.

On the subject of Asian fans Manchester has had a large influx of Chinese lately after Hong Kong was handed back to China. I have seen huge numbers settle in Altrincham. It stands to reason a lot will want to watch football and ourselves being the most successful team of the last decade will probably attract the most.

 

[M18CTID]

It's the association of Asian fans with 'tourism' I object to. The trend of local Asians coming to City is a positive but it feels like they are being identified by some as 'tourists'. Campaigns about tourists in the home ends are highly problematic.

I support campaigns on pricing, ticket distribution and the work done on banners and singing.

1894 aren't targeting Asian tourists in any way. We've even said it's not tourists where the issues lie per se. More that people buying tickets in the home areas should respect their surroundings. In other words, at least look like you're supporting the home team rather than twerking for the away team. That's pure commonsense. I've been a football tourist myself in the past, as have many others on here. 4 of us - 3 City fans and 1 United fan - went to see 1860 Munich play a Bundesliga 2 match and we got behind 1860 as it stands to reason to do that rather than wind the home fans up by supporting the opposition.

 

[Shirley]

Ha ha every cloud and all that. I understand football tourists. I spoke to an Indian one a few years ago now on the tram after a game. He was visiting Manchester and did the Old Trafford tour then our tour and game. I think he was going to watch a rag game before going home. A decent bloke and for him it was all very exciting. A lot just don't understand the fierce rivalry in the English game. On Sunday there would have been some there who supported both clubs, as we're two of the biggest now and well known in world football. They wouldn't see anything wrong in jumping up if either team scored. Unfortunately for them they found out too late you can't do that.

On the flip side you get absolute disrespectful wankers. A few years ago I had three German fans next to me in the south stand. Tourists, they were taking in our game but were mainly there to see Mahrez who was a sub. They chatted briefly to.me but were taking selfies etcetera. I can't quite remember what game it was, it might have been Brentford at home when Toney scored the winner in the last minute. It was a game we lost I remember that. As our fans started streaming out they called us plastics, saying German fans support their club to the end. Of course they got ripped a new arsehole by me and a brief history lesson at just how loyal our fans have been over the years. Utter cunts and I've not wanted to fill somebody in as much as a game for years as much as those three wankers. Tourist fans need to show some respect and be mindful of where they are otherwise they'll keep getting slapped. You don't go into somebody's home and take the piss, being at a game is the same.

Early leavers have certainly provoked many a discussion on here

 

[paulchapo]

Early leavers have certainly provoked many a discussion on here

Ha ha just one or two. No problem them expressing surprise people were leaving, it was one of the cunts calling us plastic that rattled my cage.

 

[Marvin.]

Alex glad you mentioned City fans are from everywhere.
I left Manchester aged 6 some 58 years ago, not have a real manc accent. My mates all the same age from Newcastle, midlands and Kent all have southern accent but we have followed City all around England and some go abroad. My lad has a southern accent but is 4th generation blue.

We have to be careful when talking about tourist, not all die hard City fans have manc accents ;)

And 45% of Mancunians are black/Asian. If they come to City they are welcome, and they are equal.

Are there really more football tourists at City this season? I mean genuine football tourists? And if there are, if they buy the seat up from a seasoncard holder who has decided not to go, so what? I have been to Leeds Utd 3 times in the past 4 years because my friend invited me.

The problem I am interested in is excessive ticket prices that stop seasoncard holders from going to Cup games.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Mandarin speaking guides you say. Is this a crime or evidence of some tourist takeover? This topic is embarrassing and it will not be long before Man Utd fans and the media find it. Just to make clear, not all City fans support this. This is on the 1894 Group.

There shouldn’t be a group of 50 overseas neutrals in our end for the biggest game of the season.

Yes there is a bit of an unhealthy obsession with “tourists” on here and across City social media but the tour guide example is a legitimate concern IMHO.

 

[Matt Diablo]

1894 aren't targeting Asian tourists in any way. We've even said it's not tourists where the issues lie per se. More that people buying tickets in the home areas should respect their surroundings. In other words, at least look like you're supporting the home team rather than twerking for the away team. That's pure commonsense. I've been a football tourist myself in the past, as have many others on here. 4 of us - 3 City fans and 1 United fan - went to see 1860 Munich play a Bundesliga 2 match and we got behind 1860 as it stands to reason to do that rather than wind the home fans up by supporting the opposition.

Yes having to stand up to pretend to partake when Wycombe scored penalty losing 1nil still have night terrors over . . .

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

About sixty odd years ago I went to a 'pelotta' game in SW France. Great spectacle. I was a bona fide 100% tourist. I haven't seen another game since, and I expect what we are seeing today in 'tourists' visiting PL grounds is much the same thing. People will have a PL game on their list even though they do not have a personal history of 'watching' football. And there is the added element of someone making a lot of money out of 'packages'! I regularly get emails attempting to entice me into watching the Arse, the Rags or Dippers for a couple of hundred quid!