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Trump wants their guns and now 1st amendment rights - is this heading to Civil War?


Not only was he rude in talking over the woman speaking it was a genuine misuse of power by the committee chair.

Comer was basically trying to ensure that what she and the previous Dem speaker wanted to say wasn't entered in to the record of committee.

They are simply not playing by the rules.
 
Isn't it funny that NEFTA was last signed by Trump and called the best deal ever made? Now he says, it's shit and the US get robbed. What a loser. Hard to believe one can run even a semi functional business with such a mindset.
 
Not only was he rude in talking over the woman speaking it was a genuine misuse of power by the committee chair.

Comer was basically trying to ensure that what she and the previous Dem speaker wanted to say wasn't entered in to the record of committee.

They are simply not playing by the rules.

From an earlier part:

This started when Frost called Trump the grifter-in-chief, and referred to President Musk.
He subsequently withdrew grifter-in-chief and used grifting and enriching himself in public office (or similar wording).
Comer barred him from having any input for the rest of the session. I'm not sure what cause there was to strike words from the record

It was a bit odd to say the least - the Trump fear is mighty. Government by the craven.
 
Dunno if true, or if mentioned before, but the whole USAID thing has really fucked farmers over. Most of their produce was made for shipping overseas, but that's just been wiped off their yearly income. So apparently the farmers will have produced a lot of stuff that's gonna go to waste.

Oh found a vid about it.



I don't know much about economics, but that seems like a mega fuck up.
America first? Oh well.
 
From an earlier part:

This started when Frost called Trump the grifter-in-chief, and referred to President Musk.
He subsequently withdrew grifter-in-chief and used grifting and enriching himself in public office (or similar wording).
Comer barred him from having any input for the rest of the session. I'm not sure what cause there was to strike words from the record

It was a bit odd to say the least - the Trump fear is mighty. Government by the craven.
Comer is a sycophant who craves power. GOP committee chairs in general appear to have a complete disregard of the rules and are more than willing to play dirty. Clearly emboldened by their Grifter-in-Chief.

Now if you want to see next level sycophancy, look no further than Howard Lutnick, the guy standing to the left of Trump in the video in the Yahoo news piece. Top level tromboning.

 
Isn't it funny that NEFTA was last signed by Trump and called the best deal ever made? Now he says, it's shit and the US get robbed. What a loser. Hard to believe one can run even a semi functional business with such a mindset.
Hence numerous bankruptcies.
 
Dunno if true, or if mentioned before, but the whole USAID thing has really fucked farmers over. Most of their produce was made for shipping overseas, but that's just been wiped off their yearly income. So apparently the farmers will have produced a lot of stuff that's gonna go to waste.

Oh found a vid about it.



I don't know much about economics, but that seems like a mega fuck up.
America first? Oh well.

This is what happens when an administration is stupid enough to allow a megalomanic billionaire with the emotional intelligence of a pre-pubescent teenager do whatever the f**k he wants with absolutely ZERO oversight.
 
This is what happens when an administration is stupid enough to allow a megalomanic billionaire with the emotional intelligence of a pre-pubescent teenager do whatever the f**k he wants with absolutely ZERO oversight.
It seems more 'America 3rd or lower'. Make sure Musk, Trump and the rest of the billionaires get theirs first.
 
It's just been announced that tragically an unvaccinated child has died in the Texas measles outbreak. Let's see if RFK Jr changes his mind about his baseless claim that the measles vaccine causes autism. In the meantime it should come as no surprise that anti-vax groups are blaming the outbreak on the measles vaccine.


 
Dunno if true, or if mentioned before, but the whole USAID thing has really fucked farmers over. Most of their produce was made for shipping overseas, but that's just been wiped off their yearly income. So apparently the farmers will have produced a lot of stuff that's gonna go to waste.

Oh found a vid about it.



I don't know much about economics, but that seems like a mega fuck up.
America first? Oh well.


In recent years, USAID has been a major buyer and distributor of U.S.-grown grain and other commodities to address global hunger.

• In fiscal year 2023, USAID purchased over 1 million metric tons of food from U.S. producers, including wheat, soybeans, sorghum, and peas.

• In April 2024, USAID and USDA allocated $950 million to purchase commodities like wheat, rice, lentils, and beans for emergency food aid to 18 countries facing severe hunger.

• Annually, the Food for Peace program has typically purchased about $2 billion worth of U.S. farm commodities for distribution globally.

However, recent administrative decisions have paused USAID operations, leaving $489 million worth of food aid at risk of spoilage and creating uncertainty for farmers reliant on these programs.


We are DOGEing the fuck out of that!!!

HALF A BILLION DOLLARS OF WASTE!!!

Oh wait, TRUMP & MUSK are wasting it, not the good people who just got fired for having a successful food stabilization and farm subsidy program!!!

American farmers produce too much food on a regular basis, because they not only receive payments for producing it, but to keep prices stable they can also get paid NOT to produce it!

This smacks of the grain tariffs Trump imposed last time he fucked up with farmers and he ended up having to make $20B in payments to farmers to compensate them for the harm he inflicted on them…many of whom are his Red State base!!
 
Isn't it funny that NEFTA was last signed by Trump and called the best deal ever made? Now he says, it's shit and the US get robbed. What a loser. Hard to believe one can run even a semi functional business with such a mindset.
He couldn’t- all his businesses went bust.
 
From an earlier part:

This started when Frost called Trump the grifter-in-chief, and referred to President Musk.
He subsequently withdrew grifter-in-chief and used grifting and enriching himself in public office (or similar wording).
Comer barred him from having any input for the rest of the session. I'm not sure what cause there was to strike words from the record

It was a bit odd to say the least - the Trump fear is mighty. Government by the craven.
The actions were probably governed by the rules of Decorum for the House and Senate.
Below, are the rules specific to the House:

"House Rule XVII, which covers decorum and debate. The key reasons a chair might strike words from the record include:
  1. Unparliamentary Language – If a member uses language that is deemed personally offensive, insulting, or inappropriate under House or Senate rules, the chair can move to have it stricken.
  2. Violating Rules of Decorum – Members must maintain decorum and respect when addressing colleagues, the President, or other government officials. Direct personal attacks or accusations (e.g., calling someone a liar) may lead to words being taken down.
  3. Referring to the President in a Disrespectful Manner – In the House, it is against the rules to insult or make personal attacks against the President.
  4. Imputing Motives – Accusing another member of dishonesty or corruption may be considered out of order and could be removed from the record.
  5. Objection by Another Member – If a member objects to language used in debate, the chair can rule on the objection and, if necessary, order the words stricken.
If words are stricken, the member who spoke them may not speak further on the same issue for the remainder of the day unless granted special permission. The process for striking words is formalized through parliamentary procedure, and members may appeal the ruling."


Now armed with the knowledge, and in context, it is easy to see why the chair acted as he did in accordance with the rules.
 
The actions were probably governed by the rules of Decorum for the House and Senate.
Below, are the rules specific to the House:

"House Rule XVII, which covers decorum and debate. The key reasons a chair might strike words from the record include:
  1. Unparliamentary Language – If a member uses language that is deemed personally offensive, insulting, or inappropriate under House or Senate rules, the chair can move to have it stricken.
  2. Violating Rules of Decorum – Members must maintain decorum and respect when addressing colleagues, the President, or other government officials. Direct personal attacks or accusations (e.g., calling someone a liar) may lead to words being taken down.
  3. Referring to the President in a Disrespectful Manner – In the House, it is against the rules to insult or make personal attacks against the President.
  4. Imputing Motives – Accusing another member of dishonesty or corruption may be considered out of order and could be removed from the record.
  5. Objection by Another Member – If a member objects to language used in debate, the chair can rule on the objection and, if necessary, order the words stricken.
If words are stricken, the member who spoke them may not speak further on the same issue for the remainder of the day unless granted special permission. The process for striking words is formalized through parliamentary procedure, and members may appeal the ruling."


Now armed with the knowledge, and in context, it is easy to see why the chair acted as he did in accordance with the rules.
....and then they came for Dax.....

 
....and then they came for Dax.....

Those rules predates Trump. You can believe Trump is Hitler all you want. . But none of that changes what the rules were or are...

I am sure there would be other opportunities to cry fascist!!! This just doesn't seem like one of them. But what do I know.
 

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