Away fans / tourists in home sections

[Mifred]

115 you say?!

Hope they were charged for them

 

[M18CTID]

I agree . I find it strange when Bluemooners tell us there are going to be 3k or 4K of these supoorters or that in our end. Plymouth only sold out their end the other day.

BTW I’ve just heard the American Branch of Plymouth’s Supporters Club have just returned their tickets in 115!

They might not have bought 3 or 4 thousand tickets in our end but they've definitely bought some Tim and it's irrelevant when Plymouth sold out their allocation. A brief look at their forums shows that Plymouth had a convoluted sales process and as a result of that, some of their fans were spooked into thinking they wouldn't qualify for a ticket so instead bought tickets in our end. Note that there were no restrictions on the cut-off date for becoming a City member in order to buy tickets for this game for ages and it's only in the past couple of days that City are now saying you needed to be a member on or before 9th February (the day before the 5th round draw was made).

 

[mancityvstoke]

Hope they were charged for them

just clicked what the reference was .....thanks ...ha slow today and getting old.

 

[BringBackSwales]

Caution to any Blues, I know from personal experience how your temper can flare in the passion of a football match, but for fucks sake don’t be tempted into violence, those days have gone, cameras everywhere, and it really isn’t worth losing your season ticket, 3 year or lifetime ban and criminal conviction. However it’s a crying fucking shame as we are forced to modify our behaviour that our club are so pathetically amateurish at controlling the sale of tickets to opposition fans. Any club, LIKE CITY, that actively tries to lose its legacy fans at the expense of tourist and opposition fans, has truly lost its soul.

 

[mancityvstoke]

Caution to any Blues, I know from personal experience how your temper can flare in the passion of a football match, but for fucks sake don’t be tempted into violence, those days have gone, cameras everywhere, and it really isn’t worth losing your season ticket, 3 year or lifetime ban and criminal conviction. However it’s a crying fucking shame as we are forced to modify our behaviour that our club are so pathetically amateurish at controlling the sale of tickets to opposition fans. Any club, LIKE CITY, that actively tries to lose its legacy fans at the expense of tourist and opposition fans, has truly lost its soul.

Cops filming all stands now even 107 a few weeks ago. Looking for City fans kicking off with away fans /tourists. It's horrible what's happening at City now.

 

[Chappie]

They might not have bought 3 or 4 thousand tickets in our end but they've definitely bought some Tim and it's irrelevant when Plymouth sold out their allocation. A brief look at their forums shows that Plymouth had a convoluted sales process and as a result of that, some of their fans were spooked into thinking they wouldn't qualify for a ticket so instead bought tickets in our end. Note that there were no restrictions on the cut-off date for becoming a City member in order to buy tickets for this game for ages and it's only in the past couple of days that City are now saying you needed to be a member on or before 9th February (the day before the 5th round draw was made).

Surely it's not beyond there wit to cancel any tickets sold to new memberships taken out after February 9th for the Plymouth match.
Or maybe they have done this already.

 

[M18CTID]

Surely it's not beyond there wit to cancel any tickets sold to new memberships taken out after February 9th for the Plymouth match.
Or maybe they have done this already.

Yes, there's a letter doing the rounds addressed to a Plymouth fan saying they're cancelling their tickets and those of anyone who has bought with a Plymouth postcode or from the surrounding area but whether they manage to capture all those Plymouth fans who have bought in our end is another matter

 

[wolfie1988]

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Exactly.

Loads in my OS branch who normally go away couldn't go because it was midweek.

I don't see the point in having a go at City fans just because they don't go to a specific (midweek) away game.

Well I was replying to somebody who was mentioning the away end being ridiculous.

Our fans have become accustomed to moaning at tourists and neutrals in our end. I can totally understand it at big away games where tickets are hard to come by. But last night, that wasn't the case. 35k season ticket holders had the chance to buy a ticket for it. Only a small percentage of that number bought so the tickets went to members with no criteria.

So last night isn't the time to criticise "tourists" as they had every right to buy a ticket once it reached their criteria.

 

[fathellensbellend]

Well I was replying to somebody who was mentioning the away end being ridiculous.

Our fans have become accustomed to moaning at tourists and neutrals in our end. I can totally understand it at big away games where tickets are hard to come by. But last night, that wasn't the case. 35k season ticket holders had the chance to buy a ticket for it. Only a small percentage of that number bought so the tickets went to members with no criteria.

So last night isn't the time to criticise "tourists" as they had every right to buy a ticket once it reached their criteria.

Very fair comment

 

[Whether or not]

I get as irritated with the tourist element as the next man, particularly the club pumping tickets to what are touting agencies. But, I did get a slightly different take on it last night. I was sat near to a guy who was somewhat unusually dressed for the UK in February, and he had a very distinctive square hat. Turned out he was from Uzbekistan and was there to watch Khusanov. He was unbelievably proud that one of his countrymen was playing for City in the Pl, and thrilled to be watching it. I don’t know how he got a ticket, maybe from the player himself, whether he denied a points holding blue a ticket who knows, probably not last night, but I did think to myself that I maybe need to lighten up a bit at times.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

Plymouth fans on twitter are saying / estimating between 3k and 4k have tickets in our end. Obviously some will get cancelled. Some of them buying up to 4 each.

A lot of stewards quit after sunday. Probably replaced by poorly trained ones for this weekend.

Well over three figures in terms of ejections at the Madrid home game. Only reason wasn’t high hundreds was because not enough manpower.

The guy leathered in 115 sunday said “i’m not a Liverpool fan i just like mo salah” when confronted on why he was filming the liverpool fans celebrating.

Other Liverpool fans lay low in that block and many chucked out based on their accents straight after turnstiles opened.

With the greatest respect:
How on earth would somebody on Twitter know that 3000+ Plymouth fans have bought tickets for the City end?
"A lot of stewards quit after Sunday"?
Really?. Evidence of that?

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I remember travelling to Stamford Bridge a few years ago and the train was rammed with geeky NFL fans in different team shirts (many of whom weren't actually playing that day) en route to the NFL Wembley Weekend

I never thought I'd see that at an English Premier League fixture, but then again, I never thought I'd ever witness City desperately hanging onto a 1-0 lead at Tottenham, with the bloke in front of me spending literally the whole of the second half filming the game on his phone

 

[Edghill OG]

Respectfully I don't think you understand the way City Matters works. The club aren't coming to meetings and saying "we're looking to reduce season ticket numbers". Half the time it's piecing together the information they do give us and trying to think about the knock on effect.

There are approx 37k season tickets including flexi-gold. Off the top of my head I don't have the break down.

Numbers, as above.

As you will likely know based on press releases from 1894, we don't know how many seats will be allocated to "flexigold" because the club say they haven't made a decision.

Yes - as we stated within our open letters, the club have said that, at present, they have no intention of releasing regular season tickets.

5 match criteria was an attempt to stop any fans in the home end. I'm not sure that's the reason for the apparent increase.

All games on sale - I posted earlier in the thread about it.

Breakdown of the stadium - 37k minus hospitality.

100 percent correct. I'm not fully in loop with regards to City Matters and the lack of communication was more regarding the club than yourselves. That lack of communication adds to scepticism and assumptions. There's a belief on here they're actively trying to reduce season ticket holders. That may or may not be true and they may be happy at 37k, but that quote 'haven't made a decision yet' seems to crop up quite a bit and seems a bit of a kop out.

Surely you ask some nitty, gritty questions like the one's I've just asked otherwise it isn't true fan representation? I'm intrigued to know whether they reply or you just get stonewalled? Do you genuinely feel like you're being listened to or that the club are purely doing it because they are obligated to?

I echo the sentiments of Tim and appreciate people that are sacrificing their own time and acting of our behalf, be that City Matters, 1894 etc. So thank you. How much success you have I guess is subjective to the individual.

 

[M18CTID]

With the greatest respect:
How on earth would somebody on Twitter know that 3000+ Plymouth fans have bought tickets for the City end?
"A lot of stewards quit after Sunday"?
Really?. Evidence of that?

He did say the figure was an estimate

As for the bit about the stewards, I've heard the same too. And it stands to reason really because a fair few took some digs

 

[BringBackSwales]

Yes, there's a letter doing the rounds addressed to a Plymouth fan saying they're cancelling their tickets and those of anyone who has bought with a Plymouth postcode or from the surrounding area but whether they manage to capture all those Plymouth fans who have bought in our end is another matter

If we are doing that now how fucking thick were we to issue those tickets in the first place? Our club isn’t exactly streetwise!

 

[M18CTID]

If we are doing that now how fucking thick were we to issue those tickets in the first place? Our club isn’t exactly streetwise!

I know mate. Can only think they thought an allocation of 7800 for Plymouth would be enough to satisfy demand from their fans and while tickets remained on sale in the away section, maybe the club thought none of theirs would buy in our end in the meantime. That's utterly naive. This is a huge game for Plymouth, especially coming off the back of knocking Liverpool out, and they were always capable of shifting well over 10,000 tickets IMO

 

[TivvyBlue]

Yes, there's a letter doing the rounds addressed to a Plymouth fan saying they're cancelling their tickets and those of anyone who has bought with a Plymouth postcode or from the surrounding area but whether they manage to capture all those Plymouth fans who have bought in our end is another matter

Think there's a few fair few being cancelled with PL postcodes. I'm in the Devon branch of the OSC and regular match going blues in the branch have had theirs cancelled due to having a Plymouth postcode. All a bit of a mess that could've been completely avoided by putting the cut of for new memberships the day before the draw, but the club seem hellbent on getting their £35 for new memberships.

 

[CoventryBlue]

@dannybcity

Don't fall into the trap of grouping Flexi Gold in with SCs

That's what the club want as it validates them reducing the proper SCs

I know it was the SC rep who put forward the idea but they are the antithesis of a SC given the flexible element and what it leads to (selling on tickets to redeem the £150 premium)

If it's 30k SC and 7k FG then 30k is a disgrace for the type of club we are meant to be all about, if dads can't get a SC for their kids next to them as they grow up, leaving FG as their only option then we are screwed

 

[Franny 1234]

He did say the figure was an estimate

As for the bit about the stewards, I've heard the same too. And it stands to reason really because a fair few took some digs

They should take their employers to a tribunal for lack of duty of care. Especially with the 100's of complaints from both us fans and reports from the stewards.

 

[TheGhost]

Plymouth brought thousands up to Maine Road for the FA Cup 5th round in 1988. They definitely filled the away part of the Kippax corner both top and bottom half and I think filled the Platt Lane too.