Russian invasion of Ukraine

Yea like concentrate on sending British soldiers to get killed in a war that had fuck all to do with us is how I see it

Then the distraction of the shit in this country can go on the back burner I suppose
Supporting Ukraine doesn't have to involve boots on the ground.

Money, resources, weapons, intelligence.

The threat of European involvement might be enough to stop Putin from accelerating things now America isn't involved.
 
Turned their attention to who, the US? They did turn their attention to us and saw their country reduced to a smoking ruin in response.
Had Hitler not attacked Russia and out his full force against us he would’ve crushed us, his mistake was fighting on two fronts. Deal with us then go for Russia, if Japan don’t attack Pearl Harbour the USA stay out if it, it would only be a matter of time before Germany developed a bomb whilst the USA sat on their hands in neutrality.
 
Exactly what do you want the UK to do?

I’d have thought as little as possible in regards to throwing dough around in a war when things are like they are in our own backyard -this is why I mentioned the bigger European countries - but he said some countries want to be on board but might not be able to offer much, in other words don’t worry we will make up the shortfall lads

I just don’t understand that’s all I’m getting at, need it explaining in a term I may understand to make me think ahh right yea I see now
 
I’d have thought as little as possible in regards to throwing dough around in a war when things are like they are in our own backyard -this is why I mentioned the bigger European countries - but he said some countries want to be on board but might not be able to offer much, in other words don’t worry we will make up the shortfall lads

I just don’t understand that’s all I’m getting at, need it explaining in a term I may understand to make me think ahh right yea I see now
When it's all over if the Russian hasn't got Ukraine.
We get to help rebuild and mining rights
 
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Here’s a serious question or two that maybe someone could answer in simplistic terms unless I’m over thinking things a little

Why has this happened (this meeting) in our country of all places today? Was this something that was planned so it’s just a coincidence that Zelensky was on his way back over from that debacle in America Friday?

I mean (and I say this tongue in cheek ish) I thought we weren’t involved in Europe (as such) no more, so I’m saying why is it Starmer being chief negotiator than say France or Germany , as they are far bigger countries than us - why does it have to be the UK inviting everyone to the party type of thing?

I’m being genuine as well here, because starmer will lick Trumps arse all day no?
It makes sense for Starmer to be the buffer between the EU and the US as the UK isn't in the EU and we're supposedly a very friendly nation to the US, so we may have trump's ear
I'm not a Starmer fan boy, but I think he's doing OK so far
 
Yea like concentrate on sending British soldiers to get killed in a war that had fuck all to do with us is how I see it

Then the distraction of the shit in this country can go on the back burner I suppose
Look if he takes Ukraine Putin will go to Moldovan next and then Lithuania which is in NATO article 5 will be enacted and that includes the use of nuclear weapons to stop Russia. Brits have already died on this war when they were training troops in Ukraine in Liev missile attack. The other choice is we arm Ukraine to teeth and set them loose to finish them
 
I’d have thought as little as possible in regards to throwing dough around in a war when things are like they are in our own backyard -this is why I mentioned the bigger European countries - but he said some countries want to be on board but might not be able to offer much, in other words don’t worry we will make up the shortfall lads

I just don’t understand that’s all I’m getting at, need it explaining in a term I may understand to make me think ahh right yea I see now
It’s called democracy and standing with others who share the same values. I’m delighted we are taking a lead on this and helping another democratic country under attack, even moreso since Trump has shown his true colours
 
Give them what they need in weapons, the deal that the US wanted on Ukraine’s precious metals why can’t Europe be offering something similar but on better terms for Ukraine? Cut America out of the picture and sideline them, they need to understand that being isolationist when there’s threats from the likes of China and Russia is not going to help anyone long term.
Now THAT'S the art of the deal...
 

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