President Trump

[mosssideblue]

I know there is a lot of anger on here, so here is a little light relief.
One of the things trump said was Biden spent $8m on sex changes for mice.
The truth was it was transgeric mice which are genetically modified mice that help research into dementia and heart disease which you'd think trump would be all over as both are on his way.
Not changing mickeys into minnies.

The problem here is that those Trump is speaking to accept everything he tells them

 

[mosssideblue]

I do wonder when the backlash overseas against his golf clubs etc start, hasn’t he got one in Scotland?

Or the burning down of Trump Tower, which surely will happen

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

I do wonder when the backlash overseas against his golf clubs etc start, hasn’t he got one in Scotland?

And Doonbeg. That’s Doonbeg Co. Clare. That’s West Coast of Ireland, Co. Clare.
I can draw a map if necessary.

Anyway, it would be terrible if each green had Fuck Trump, dug into it. Terrible I say.
I couldn’t condone that kind of behaviour.

 

[Blue Mist]

I heard that the Hong Kong company has agreed to sell the port to the United States, and the matter should be concluded. This is the American way of doing business, which is not surprising.

No.
The private company selling their shares are global. They have their HQ in Hong Kong. They are not part of Chi a.
The company buying the shares are American but they again are private. This deal was negotiated before the Orange Shit Gibbon (TOSG) took over merely concluded now.

It has nothing to do with TOSG.

 

[Grassland Blue]

I know a few drunken blokes who were hit over the head by one but I never heard of them killing anybody :-)

My mates dad was a cook in the army working in the middle east.
One day an Arab burst into the tent where he was cooking and my mates dad used the only thing he had to hand to subdue him.
Yes - a frying pan!

 

[Odd socks]

He owned them.
I think it's an art to be able to bring your point to the table and remain in control while others try to derail the point you were making.
Thanks for posting.

 

[BlueRockape]

I do wonder when the backlash overseas against his golf clubs etc start, hasn’t he got one in Scotland?

Two I think

 

[Grassland Blue]

This **** has literally ruined over 100 years of European trust, let that sink in for one minute if you are a fucking Trump supporter.

He will be dead and buried in the next 10 years and it will take many, many Years to repair what this greedy, egotistical fuckwit is doing to the rest of the World (and America) right now.

Following Trumps' demise, unfortunately, there will be a legacy of his acolytes who will need to be removed from their posts, or the damage will continue to be done.

 

[Onholiday(somemightsay)]

Did you get out of the Greater NY/NJ metro area? If so, maybe you saw some of the other 90% of the country.

Getaway doesn't take place til later this year for a mates 40th.

Been over a few times but to be fair haven't really ventured outside of NY, L.A., San Fran, Washington & Vegas from memory.

Future trips were going to be more based around musical origins further south........

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Was thinking this myself the other day. A unified European fighting force was widely seen in the right wing press a decade or so ago, as an even further circle of hell than political union, which I never quite got. It makes absolute strategic sense for Europe to have a common military, as it did at the time of the Brexit vote in 2016. It’s not like the threat from Russia is anything new.

No one could have predicted the way things would turn in under a decade, although that’s sort of the point. Why narrow your national options in a way that simply wasn’t necessary?

There was clearly an assumption by nearly everyone who voted in the referendum, leave or remain, that the trans-Atlantic alliance was immutable, and I wonder how differently the vote would have turned out, without any other variables whatsoever, if people had known the scope of the deterioration of US conduct towards Europe and especially the UK at the time of the referendum.

It’s interesting the debate that raises in Britain now.
Here in Ireland the only time we’ve been part of an empire was as a majority ruled by a minority, and look a the conflict that caused over a couple of hundred years.

I only mention this to emphasise the point you are making. We here in Ireland know we are a small bit player in Europe but we also know that the strength in the unity the EU offers greatly outweighs the differences between individual memberships.
I think we bitch as much as anyone but we collectively have always embraced what the EU project offers in a way we never got or could take from London.

We valued our neutrality but the triple lock that we have before deploying defence forces anywhere in the world is now being questioned in the Dail. The government is looking at this and talking about upping the security budget like the rest of Europe.

As I say, we are small fry, but I always thought Britain and British people should drop their historical air of supremacy regarding military self sufficiency and build something that could independently defend Europe. There is strength in unity and that goes for economics also.

I would imagine there isn’t an individual member state in the EU that wouldn’t welcome you back with open arms.

 

[threespires]

The problem here is that those Trump is speaking to accept everything he tells them

As funny as Kimmel might have been (the Crockett giving it to Tubbs line should have got a bigger laugh imo) this stuff is really just a comfort blanket that makes Trumps opponents feel better. It's an entirely understandable "if you don't laugh you'll cry" approach but the reality is he isn't going to be ridiculed out of the WH.

Whilst we mock him/them, they've learnt the 'lessons' from his first term and have been busily dismantling any opposition to his future plans. They're currently trying to bend the military to their will. Laughing along with JK isn't going to cut it this time round.

 

[somapop]

As funny as Kimmel might have been (the Crockett giving it to Tubbs line should have got a bigger laugh imo) this stuff is really just a comfort blanket that makes Trumps opponents feel better. It's an entirely understandable "if you don't laugh you'll cry" approach but the reality is he isn't going to be ridiculed out of the WH.

Whilst we mock him/them, they've learnt the 'lessons' from his first term and have been busily dismantling any opposition to his future plans. They're currently trying to bend the military to their will. Laughing along with JK isn't going to cut it this time round.

I feel that too.
No amount of satire, AI genned vids or laser guided cartoons will bring this lot down, or even dent their facades.
Actively fans the flames of their egos more than anything I'd imagine.
The horse has well and truly bolted.

 

[HelloCity]

That's one person though. The bulk of the US army wouldn't execute something as deranged as invading Canada. A lot them will have friends and family north of the border.

You've got to think that a sizable portion are brainwashed Trump supporters. They'll do exactly as he says. Just as Russian troops invaded Ukraine.

 

[west didsblue]

If we do that Trump will pull Trident

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is a feasibility study taking place to see if the Dreadnought submarine design can be modified to launch a European alternative to Trident missile (the French have their own I believe) with the UK designed and built warheads. One thing’s for sure it will be eye wateringly expensive to do but we may not have a choice.

 

[mosssideblue]

It wouldn’t surprise me if there is a feasibility study taking place to see if the Dreadnought submarine design can be modified to launch a European alternative to Trident missile (the French have their own I believe) with the UK designed and built warheads. One thing’s for sure it will be eye wateringly expensive to do but we may not have a choice.

I posted a while back that the UK have been looking into the French system as a replacement for Trident for a while now as there is a genuine risk that Trump may pull it

 

[crooky]

Again another cuppa and another thought about where the world is heading. Again not sure exactly where to post this.

But have the two 'big dogs' of the world stage basically realised that instead of being in conflict with each other that they're better off being on friendly terms and then they can refocus their efforts on taking what they want rather than basically cancelling each other out.

- Russia could take Ukraine and the Baltic States (Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania)
- The US could take Greenland and Canada
And I guess China could take Taiwan.

As long as they don't have conflicting interests then I don't see why the above can't happen if the US leave NATO.

 

[Gareth Barry Conlon]

It’s an excuse to invade I’m convinced of it, destroy Europe/nato by siding with Russia and then when we are too busy roll into Canada and Greenland. I think the only ones who can stop him now is the democrats talking to the military, they must have some that are sensible. This is all going to spiral out of control very soon, his rhetoric in Gaza is going to piss the Middle East off, he’s having a go a China and Europe could end up at war very soon if we are not careful.

He doesn't have the political capital for that. He's in his honeymoon period but a lot of what he is doing is eroding his support. If markets keep heading down and his approval ratings follow then it will start to look different.

The concern is that the natural checks to power you get in a democracy depend on a free press and regular elections. The GOP would want to remain electable and avoid bad press. But if these is no bad press and no elections then he can do whatever he wants.

 

[BobKowalski]

If anyone is wondering what’s great about America, come and see for yourself!

But, like an American going to “England” and only seeing London, please don’t ONLY go to New York and Orlando, ffs!

See the REAL AMERICA, in all her glory, and not, and meet REAL AMERICANS in the smaller towns that hold the vast majority of our citizens, and you’ll love America for what it is, what it can be, and for all she has been for generations of immigrants who have made good lives here.

Yes, we have our high profile negatives, but they literally have no effect on most people, most of the time. None.

Lastly, ignore politics. Don’t talk about it. Just be human, and smile, and America will smile right back at ya!

Oh, and in case you didn’t know, America is at least 6 or 7 different “countries” rolled into one, so if you do a teeny amount of research, you’ll understand that the NE is nothing like the SW, either in climate, geography, or personality, in ways that Italy isn’t Germany and Spain isn’t Norway.

We are living in a strange time and while 1/5 of Americans elected this idiot, I’d venture 1/3 of them are beginning to realize their big mistakes and another 1/3 have yet to realize it. Don’t paint America with Trump’s brush. He is just passing through.

Well said and having been to the US I agree that it is a mix of different countries and the people are invariably friendly, but most people do not visit the US and the US is Trump and Musk. Right now and for the foreseeable future the US is inimical to the security and prosperity of the UK and Europe and we will have to treat the country and its people with that in mind. You cannot divorce the administration from the people that elected them.

Once the trust is gone, the US is never going to get it back. That is the reality and one we all have to face going forward.

 

[threespires]

It’s interesting the debate that raises in Britain now.
Here in Ireland the only time we’ve been part of an empire was as a majority ruled by a minority, and look a the conflict that caused over a couple of hundred years.

I only mention this to emphasise the point you are making. We here in Ireland know we are a small bit player in Europe but we also know that the strength in the unity the EU offers greatly outweighs the differences between individual memberships.
I think we bitch as much as anyone but we collectively have always embraced what the EU project offers in a way we never got or could take from London.

We valued our neutrality but the triple lock that we have before deploying defence forces anywhere in the world is now being questioned in the Dail. The government is looking at this and talking about upping the security budget like the rest of Europe.

As I say, we are small fry, but I always thought Britain and British people should drop their historical air of supremacy regarding military self sufficiency and build something that could independently defend Europe. There is strength in unity and that goes for economics also.

I would imagine there isn’t an individual member state in the EU that wouldn’t welcome you back with open arms.

If this doesn't knock the vestiges of exceptionalism out of us then nothing will. The current situation should clearly illustrate that charlatans and 5th columnists such as Farage, who peddle that kind of fairy tale exceptionalist bollocks, should be put in the bin. Whether that happens or not will tell us a lot about where the UK is heading as a nation.

Loads of people who have expressed buyers remorse over leaving the EU would like to wind back the clock. We can't do that and I don't personally think we'll end up back in the EU quickly but extraordinary times give rise to extraordinary events so who knows? Either way, as crap as this situation is it's given the UK the chance to move back closer to the rest of Europe which will benefit both the UK and our close neighbours. I hope we take advantage of this potential upside of a very difficult situation that our shared home of Europe finds itself in.

 

[west didsblue]

I posted a while back that the UK have been looking into the French system as a replacement for Trident for a while now as there is a genuine risk that Trump may pull it

I can see an opportunity for us to persuade European allies to help to pay for it now they know they can’t rely on the US.