Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor


The Billy Smart's Circus Arena.

Roll up, roll up and see your favourite clowns perform. Marvel again as they turn another corner then the car explodes with a huge bang and the wheels fall off. Laugh at watching the management and coaching staff do the Chinese fire drill attempting to put out the latest fire. Fun for all the family, only £350 a ticket. Cheap as chips
 
The design looks good apart from the 3 pineapple sticks
Looks well thought out under the cover with the fan area and lots of commercial units
Interesting idea on the construction being prefabs shipped in using the ship canal
Foster being involved makes it a serious design proposal
There is the one outstanding and critical question that Berada hid behind the listed company excuse as to how it will be funded £2B seems a low estimate and by the time its gets started, 5 years to build then the cost will have escalated
They will be looking at name rights Barca got €70M / year so even they managed £100M its a long way from it being funded especially considering the existing debt
Can't see the owners funding this as it would be a £1.4B share from Glazers
 
Being assembled appropriately enough with pre-built off-site sub-assemblies, i.e. like Meccano
Coming up the MSC, suggests being built somewhere else, maybe even not UK.
Wonder if the non-taxpayer is happy with that.
 
The design looks good apart from the 3 pineapple sticks
Looks well thought out under the cover with the fan area and lots of commercial units
Interesting idea on the construction being prefabs shipped in using the ship canal
Foster being involved makes it a serious design proposal
There is the one outstanding and critical question that Berada hid behind the listed company excuse as to how it will be funded £2B seems a low estimate and by the time its gets started, 5 years to build then the cost will have escalated
They will be looking at name rights Barca got €70M / year so even they managed £100M its a long way from it being funded especially considering the existing debt
Can't see the owners funding this as it would be a £1.4B share from Glazers
Under cover fan zone and commercial units? Where did they get that idea?
 
Being assembled appropriately enough with pre-built off-site sub-assemblies, i.e. like Meccano
Coming up the MSC, suggests being built somewhere else, maybe even not UK.
Wonder if the non-taxpayer is happy with that.
Think two Asian countries and one middle Eastern country was mentioned for the building of the jigsaw pieces. Not sure if that was also hidden in the 90k jobs created.
 
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The design looks good apart from the 3 pineapple sticks
Looks well thought out under the cover with the fan area and lots of commercial units
Interesting idea on the construction being prefabs shipped in using the ship canal
Foster being involved makes it a serious design proposal
There is the one outstanding and critical question that Berada hid behind the listed company excuse as to how it will be funded £2B seems a low estimate and by the time its gets started, 5 years to build then the cost will have escalated
They will be looking at name rights Barca got €70M / year so even they managed £100M its a long way from it being funded especially considering the existing debt
Can't see the owners funding this as it would be a £1.4B share from Glazers

I agree.

There is no way it is coming in at £2 billion now, never mind in 5 years time.

It's got the Olympic stadium spiralling costs all over it.
 
So ....£2 BILLION + + + to build *

£1 BILLION + + + in debt **

£ 300 MILLION of losses
in the last three years ***

Distressed sale of assets
(ha ha players) to pass PSR
& raise funds for new players generating more losses.

Redundancy/Compensation
payments.

Reduced PL performance
payment for 2025.

Reduced sponsorship fees.

No European Revenue.

* Probably closer to £2.6 BILLION
** And rising.
*** And rising.

External financing will carry additional interest payments.

External investors will require interest or dividends.

The good news is we'll get more tickets for the 2075 Derby !!
 
heard jimbob say it could be completed in 5 years, it all depends on when the government want to start the regeneration.
is that code for it all depends on how much money the government are willing to pay towards it
 
So ....£2 BILLION + + + to build *

£1 BILLION + + + in debt **

£ 300 MILLION of losses
in the last three years ***

Distressed sale of assets
(ha ha players) to pass PSR
& raise funds for new players generating more losses.

Redundancy/Compensation
payments.

Reduced PL performance
payment for 2025.

Reduced sponsorship fees.

No European Revenue.

* Probably closer to £2.6 BILLION
** And rising.
*** And rising.

External financing will carry additional interest payments.

External investors will require interest or dividends.

The good news is we'll get more tickets for the 2075 Derby !!
Love it
 
The difference between City and United stadium plans was that City only benefitted from infrastructure that was built for a different purpose.
So we helped make use of something that would have went to waste.
So while there was some benefit, City's contributions since has dwarfed it.

United want money/funding to help their business model. And they want government money to do it.
If it was true "levelling up", it would be building a "neutral" stadium for multi sport use, and not one particular club.
Any government money would be giving a single club an advantage both business and footballing wise.

United are a famous club. But somebody needs to call out this "1 Billion" followers shit, and "They will all want to come".
It implies they have 1 billion fans which is blatantly untrue.

Most people in the world know who Putin/Trump/Musk is. It doesn't mean every one of them support them.
 

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