Open Letter on Season Tickets and Pricing | Club announce price freeze on "general admission season tickets & PL match tickets" for next season (p163)

[WNRH]

I don’t know why anyone is surprised that the OSC has not supported the boycott of City Matters meetings.

The clue is in the ‘O’. They are an official arm of the club. They are hardly going to kick up a fuss on anything when the club could easily pull back the benefits of being an OSC member at any time.

The 1894 group and any other groups have my full support when fighting for the “I’m not allright jacks”

 

[jrb]

Sorry John, but you are turning a routine OSC meeting into something like a Spectre gathering in James Bond. All this name everyone who was there, like it’s some murder mystery is a bit OTT.

Some times it’s best to give people the benefit of the doubt. We are either all City or we’re not.

No fan group is perfect. Certainly not the OSC or any Branch. Neither are 1894.

When the OSC8, as they have called themselves, make a decision on behalf of 32K paid up OSC members, many who do not agree with their decision, they have to be accountable for that decision. They shouldn't hide behind no names, no named positions with-in the OSC, and poorly worded and sarcastic replies on the OSC, X page.

It wasn't a routine OSC meeting. It was an important OSC meeting. A meeting that included a discussion and a vote on supporting or not supporting the City Matters Reps who have stopped meeting and talking to the club.

The decision has been made by the OSC8. I have to abide by that decision, even though I don't agree with it. But as a paid up OSC member I want to know who made that decision and why. So do many other OSC members.

It's all about transparency and accountability to the OSC membership.That isn't too much to ask for, is it mate?

 

[wearethesouthstand]

Let’s now give our reps the space to work in. Angela Worrall doesn’t set the prices neither does Kevin Parker

 

[Tim of the Oak]

When the OSC8, as they have called themselves, make a decision on behalf of 32K paid up OSC members, many who do not agree with their decision, they have to be accountable for that decision. They shouldn't hide behind no names, no named positions with-in the OSC, and poorly worded and sarcastic replies on the OSC, X page.

It wasn't a routine OSC meeting. It was an important OSC meeting. A meeting that included a discussion and a vote on supporting or not supporting the City Matters Reps who have stopped meeting and talking the club.

The decision has been made by the OSC8. I have to abide by that decision, even though I don't agree with it. But as a paid up OSC member I want to know who made that decision and why. So do many other OSC members.

It's all about transparency and accountability to the OSC membership.That isn't too much to ask for, is it mate?

You can try and make out there’s some sort of secretive conspiracy. The fact is that I wrote out out at the start of the week before anyone had heard of this vote asking if members of
my branch would share the workload in attending these meetings, hopefully that shatters your secretive notion. There will be members of my Branch on this form who will confirm that I did that.

I’m stressing this point because you or anyone else in your Branch could ask your Branch Sec to attend these meetings.

It may well be a bad decision that has been communicated poorly by the OSC but I think you need to be putting yourself forward as a script writer for the next James Bond movie.

Btw the notes of the meeting get shared with members a week or two after the meeting. I’ve posted a summary of AGMs / meetings on here many times.

 

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Yes, a fanbase who are openly showing disgust towards their club’s boardroom have been meeting with that boardroom since September last year about ticket prices for next season.

And they’ve been frozen.

City are going to increase prices again aren’t they?!

 

[jrb]

You can try and make out there’s some sort of secretive conspiracy. The fact is that I wrote out out at the start of the week before anyone had heard of this vote asking if members of
my branch would share the workload in attending these meetings, hopefully that shatters your secretive notion. There will be members of my Branch on this form who will confirm that I did that.

I’m stressing this point because you or anyone else in your Branch could ask your Branch Sec to attend these meetings.

It may well be a bad decision that has been communicated poorly by the OSC but I think you need to be putting yourself forward as a script writer for the next James Bond movie.

Btw the notes of the meeting get shared with members a week or two after the meeting. I’ve posted a summary of AGMs / meetings on here many times.

No I'm not. When have I used those words? All I've asked for is accountability and transparency. That isn't a lot to ask for is it? And it could have been done as part of the decision making process after the meeting.

There's no may about it. Stop making excuses for those taking part in the meeting. It was a bad and poor decision not to be open, honest, and transparent after the meeting.

I look forward to the minutes in 2 weeks time explaining why the OSC8 came to their decision.

As for your James Bond quip/jibe, please don't make it personal. I could quite easily criticise you for sucking up your mates who run the OSC, but I don't.

I'll leave it at.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

No I'm not. When have I used those words? All I've asked for is accountability and transparency. That isn't a lot to ask for is it? And it could have been done as part of the decision making process after the meeting.

There's no may about it. Stop making excuses for those taking part in the meeting. It was a bad and poor decision not to be open, honest, and transparent after the meeting.

I look forward to the minutes in 2 weeks time explaining why the OSC8 came to their decision.

As for your James Bond quip/jibe, please don't make it personal. I could quite easily criticise you for sucking up your mates who run the OSC, but I don't.

The James Bomd line was a compliment mate.

I’m not a fan of the decision that was made but the OSC might have had cast iron assurances about the meeting to come.

I don’t like Danny Wilson for no other reason than he’s a Bolton fan and the only time I asked for help it didn’t go well. That’s probably my short sightedness.

I know Danny is held up as a top bloke by you and many other Blues whose opinions I respect. I can understand the Branch Secs not wanting to throw Danny under the proverbial bus for offering a meeting too early that would have displeased his seniors. That’s just my theory. It could be wrong.

 

[Chappie]

I’d be astonished if Rusholme Branch voted Yes. @Chappie were you or the Tashman involved?

It would never be my good self as I have no affiliation with the supporters club now or at anytime throughout my 60 odd years of supporting City.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

When the OSC8, as they have called themselves, make a decision on behalf of 32K paid up OSC members, many who do not agree with their decision, they have to be accountable for that decision. They shouldn't hide behind no names, no named positions with-in the OSC, and poorly worded and sarcastic replies on the OSC, X page.

It wasn't a routine OSC meeting. It was an important OSC meeting. A meeting that included a discussion and a vote on supporting or not supporting the City Matters Reps who have stopped meeting and talking to the club.

The decision has been made by the OSC8. I have to abide by that decision, even though I don't agree with it. But as a paid up OSC member I want to know who made that decision and why. So do many other OSC members.

It's all about transparency and accountability to the OSC membership.That isn't too much to ask for, is it mate?

It was the monthly OSC Execs / Branch Secs meeting

 

[Mcfc1.9.8.0]

In this day and age why is it only people who attend a meeting able to vote. An email should have been sent to each secretary asking for the branches vote 1 branch 1 vote.

The club and the OSC bang the drum about fans from all over the world so it’s now impossible for the majority to attend EC meetings

 

[TheGhost]

The fact is that I wrote out out at the start of the week before anyone had heard of this vote asking if members of
my branch would share the workload in attending these meetings, hopefully that shatters your secretive notion. There will be members of my Branch on this form who will confirm that I did that.

You did mate. I’m going to make an effort to attend future meetings. I presume they are Zoom/Teams calls?

To look for positives from the last few days maybe more City fans will become more engaged with the different strands of the City fan groups.

I think we need to all be a bit more conciliatory to each other in the thread now.

 

[jrb]

It was the monthly OSC Execs / Branch Secs meeting

Tim.

You are one of my BM forum mates. :-)
I've got plenty of time for you.
I'm not going to fall out with you over this.
I appreciate you telling me the minutes of the meeting will be posted in 2 weeks.
That could have been posted on the OSC, X page after the meeting.
Thank you.

 

[Big Joe Corrigan]

You did mate. I’m going to make an effort to attend future meetings. I presume they are Zoom/Teams calls?

To look for positives from the last few days maybe more City fans will become more engaged with the different strands of the City fan groups.

I think we need to all be a bit more conciliatory to each other in the thread now.

I’m not at all up to date with OSCs, City Matters, and other City fan groups. But if there are lots of different groups, would it not make sense for them to come together to form one large group, with hopefully more strength in numbers and a louder voice on issues such as pricing etc?

 

[East Level 2]

While we go round and round in circles arguing the point, is it possible the club are waiting for the result of "115" before making an announcement? I get social media feeds regarding our punishment ranging from a points deduction to guarantee relegation, to a long transfer ban. And absolute chaos in football if we win.
Relegation would probably generate another court case, but could the club use the extra four games as an excuse to increase prices? Or would they realise fans, and disaster tourists etc won't be queuing to pay >£60 to see Coventry or Bristol City at the Etihad.

 

[Mcfc1.9.8.0]

While we go round and round in circles arguing the point, is it possible the club are waiting for the result of "115" before making an announcement? I get social media feeds regarding our punishment ranging from a points deduction to guarantee relegation, to a long transfer ban. And absolute chaos in football if we win.
Relegation would probably generate another court case, but could the club use the extra four games as an excuse to increase prices? Or would they realise fans, and disaster tourists etc won't be queuing to pay >£60 to see Coventry or Bristol City at the Etihad.

Yes we will be found not guilty and during all the celebrations they’ll announce another 5% increase hoping not many will notice and the rest that do won’t care

 

[ell]

I'm in the OSC, but mainly for coach travel to away matches, as I've usually got enough points regardless.

I'm also a legacy fan, holding an Adult Season Ticket for all 44 seasons that I've been an adult, (and I've still got my ticket stub to prove that I was at York)

I believe that cheaper match tickets are essential, but cheaper seasoncards are a double edged sword as they attract the type of supporter who can't be arsed with the less attractive games/kick off times.

I also read a few forums from other PL clubs so I'm well aware which problems are specifically related to City and which are literally across the PL spectrum (atmosphere and tourists being the best examples of the latter)

I often snigger at the contradiction of our highest ever average attendance receiving so much negativity, not just from the media and fans of other clubs, but also our regular support.
However that's just me being a cynical twat.

Loads of people will agree with me and loads will disagree. That's fine, but it's sad to see so much inner conflict between people who've dedicated so much time to make my experience better.

I agree with a lot of your post, but I don't think cheaper seasoncards are the problem with lesser games, the punishment for not attending, transferring or exchanging (when its really easy to do so) are too soft. I appreciate I am in a minority when I say that because the club tried to lessen the amount of games you can miss and there was a fightback from city matters. But I don't see the point buying a seasonticket if your seat is going to be empty 5/19

 

[East Level 2]

I agree with a lot of your post, but I don't think cheaper seasoncards are the problem with lesser games, the punishment for not attending, transferring or exchanging (when its really easy to do so) are too soft. I appreciate I am in a minority when I say that because the club tried to lessen the amount of games you can miss and there was a fightback from city matters. But I don't see the point buying a seasonticket if your seat is going to be empty 5/19

In general I agree but allowances must be made in the case of severe illness etc.

 

[halfcenturyup]

The James Bomd line was a compliment mate.

I’m not a fan of the decision that was made but the OSC might have had cast iron assurances about the meeting to come.

I don’t like Danny Wilson for no other reason than he’s a Bolton fan and the only time I asked for help it didn’t go well. That’s probably my short sightedness.

I know Danny is held up as a top bloke by you and many other Blues whose opinions I respect. I can understand the Branch Secs not wanting to throw Danny under the proverbial bus for offering a meeting too early that would have displeased his seniors. That’s just my theory. It could be wrong.

I don't know the Wilson guy but I expect the truth is somewhere in between. He probably does his job to the best of his ability but what he can and can't do on sensitive issues is most likely decided by people above him in the executive structure.

He will have been told what to say to City Matters on the issue of pricing, imho.

 

[M18CTID]

Yes we will be found not guilty and during all the celebrations they’ll announce another 5% increase hoping not many will notice and the rest that do won’t care

A good day to bury bad news?

 

[ell]

In general I agree but allowances must be made in the case of severe illness etc.

I am in total agreement, but like I say I think its quite easy to exchange and transfer tickets nowadays. And in the event of severe illness, I would hope the club would show compassion in these cases.