PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[BlueMoonz1977]

For that reason I hope we tell them to stick their face saving compromise due to the shit they have thrown at and dragged the club through.

The sentiment of all blues fans...and one hopefully the club and the powers that be also uphold.

Fuck any kind of face saving compromise that the pl might be touting

Fuck masters, the red cartel and the hateful 8

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

I heard a little snippet that supports the possibility of a positive outcome, from one of the legal teams.

Firstly, that is not acceptable without also posting a cryptic music video with no further actual evidence.
Secondly, once @gordondaviesmoustache has returned from lunch I expect he will have something to say about your use of the phrase 'legal teams'.
That aside, thankyou for the snippet.

 

[Academica]

I heard a little snippet that supports the possibility of a positive outcome, from one of the legal teams.

Which legal team?

 

[Father Paul]

Any crumb of positivity is always welcome.

Look the worst that can happen is that we are relegated. We simply make our way back which we need to do anyway. Our form since October is not much above relegation level. We are City, we will survive whatever happens, so no need to worry.

 

[DelToro]

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Which legal team?

Eversheds Sunday 11.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Firstly, that is not acceptable without also posting a cryptic music video with no further actual evidence.
Secondly, once @gordondaviesmoustache has returned from lunch I expect he will have something to say about your use of the phrase 'legal teams'.
That aside, thankyou for the snippet.

Just had a very nice bacon and egg sandwich so will be skipping lunch today, but thanks for the heads up on the deployment of that sinfully wank, small-time expression.

 

[Big Dave Watson]

Which legal team?

Exactly.

He says 'One' of the legal teams. It's tongue in cheek basically.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Excellent summary but it doesn’t make me feel particularly confident. Indeed, it now feels as if the club have taken a huge risk.
Still, I’m up & down every day on this issue. One day I read something that inspires confidence, the next a contradictory view appears.
Wish it was over

I prefer my explanation that, after the PL continued with their investigation following the CAS decision, the club have cleverly manipulated the PL into going through this whole process to get it finalised once and for all.

I have a few reasons for thinking that but I won't repeat them here as I don't think anyone else agrees with me :)

But there are two questions to which I am hoping we will find the answer once the dust has settled on the judgment:

Why did the PL continue with the investigation once CAS had concluded. The easy answer is rival pressure, but really?

Why did the PL continue with the disciplinary process in February 2023? That is when I don't really think they had a choice. And that is where my original point comes in. I think they didn't have a choice because the club put them in that position.

So, I am not worrying.

If I am right, the club are extraordinarily confident even in some of the less serious areas where I don't think we have enough information to come to a conclusion ourselves, such as Fordham and Toure. That's good enough for me.

And if I am wrong well, what the fuck, it won't be the first time :D

Hope that helps.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Just had a very nice bacon and egg sandwich so will be skipping lunch today, but thanks for the heads up on the deployment of that sinfully wank, small-time expression.

Correct, we all know it's "legal eagles".

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Correct, we all know it's "legal eagles".

It’s not as bad!

 

[halfcenturyup]

So are you saying you think one or more of the ‘independent panel’ can be influenced by masters and in turn the cartel clubs?
Let’s hope not as it could be a bumpy ride and an appeal etc if so.

I can't speak to UEFA's procedures other than to say that I wouldn't trust a European organisation to have a fair process on anything but that is because, having spent nearly all my professional life in France and Switzerland, they have turned me into a raving cynic on matters of European process :)

But on the PL's process, I don't think there is anything to worry about for many reasons which I have previously tried to explain. I think the APT judgments have since proven that. And we are British, of course ....

 

[Asa's left peg]

Which legal team?

If it's ok with you, I wouldn't say, but there are only 2, I believe? It was an acknowledgement that we / they had won the case for City. It was in a meeting (small group) so not with the office junior in it, if you know what I mean.
Wouldn't like to say more, but bookmark and I will after it comes out (even if incorrect).

 

[halfcenturyup]

Well if Ceferin & Masters can go back to their "independent" panels and tell them they've essentially by-passed them in the middle of an investigation and arranged a deal, then clearly they can't be that independent can they?

The PL rules allow the parties to agree to a settlement, I think, as long as the disciplinary panel agrees to the terms. I don't think that's at all bad ....

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

If it's ok with you, I wouldn't say, but there are only 2, I believe? It was an acknowledgement that we / they had won the case for City. It was in a meeting (small group) so not with the office junior in it, if you know what I mean.
Wouldn't like to say more, but bookmark and I will after it comes out (even if incorrect).

Was there any shagging in this 'meeting'?

 

[doobyedoobye]

Even if the doomsday scenario occurred and we were relegated several levels it would be a great ride on the way back up ..

 

[halfcenturyup]

If it's ok with you, I wouldn't say, but there are only 2, I believe? It was an acknowledgement that we / they had won the case for City. It was in a meeting (small group) so not with the office junior in it, if you know what I mean.
Wouldn't like to say more, but bookmark and I will after it comes out (even if incorrect).

Thanks for the information.

Could you say what "won the case" meant, in your opinion? That the PL couldn't prove the most serious allegations? Or that they couldn't prove any?

In a complicated case like this, or the APT case, I always think "won" or "lost" aren't particularly helpful for understanding what's going on ....

 

[halfcenturyup]

I think an adapted rendition of 10 green bottles is in order.

115 charges hanging over our heads,
115 charges hanging over our heads,
And if one malicious charge should be thrown out for lack of any clear irrefutable coherent evidence,
They’ll be 114 charging hanging over our heads.
Etc

Line 3 needs a bit of tightening up…

Line 3 would scan better with cogent rather than coherent. Try it ....

 

[Nephin Man]

we took a pinch years ago to try and fit in look how that turned out.

What was clearly a double-cross could well have been the defining moment in all of this. Together with the PL indifference to Liverpool's hack of City's database, City must've realised at some point that appeasement was only serving to cede the Sudetenland to UEFA and the PL.

 

[jimharri]

I can't speak to UEFA's procedures other than to say that I wouldn't trust a European organisation to have a fair process on anything but that is because, having spent nearly all my professional life in France and Switzerland, they have turned me into a raving cynic on matters of European process :)

But on the PL's process, I don't think there is anything to worry about for many reasons which I have previously tried to explain. I think the APT judgments have since proven that. And we are British, of course ....

It's those horrible, smelly Johnny Foreigners, innit? The fuckers don't even have God's own language as their mother tongue.


;-)

 

[halfcenturyup]

It's those horrible, smelly Johnny Foreigners, innit? The fuckers don't even have God's own language as their mother tongue.


;-)

Précisément, surtout les Français.