Andy Burnham | Manchester Mayor

I read it in this article

And the proposed freight terminal land was purchased in 2023. Which pre-dates INEOS

I tend not to believe puff pieces that are purely based on may, could PR.

If Freightliner have the new land already, for example, why haven't they moved yet?If it's too expensive for them to move, why did they buy the land in the first place? I think we can all guess the answers to those questions.
 
I tend not to believe puff pieces that are purely based on may, could PR.

If Freightliner have the new land already, for example, why haven't they moved yet?If it's too expensive for them to move, why did they buy the land in the first place? I think we can all guess the answers to those questions.
This and other valid questions need to be included in the 'template' that someone on here is creating.
 
I tend not to believe puff pieces that are purely based on may, could PR.

If Freightliner have the new land already, for example, why haven't they moved yet?If it's too expensive for them to move, why did they buy the land in the first place? I think we can all guess the answers to those questions.
Tritax own and have put in planning applications for the land. Freightliner would just be a tenant, I believe.

The fact that the planning applications have only just gone through first consultation phase tells us that there is a long way to go yet.

Secretary of State consent not expected until Q3 2027.

Then they have to build it.

 
Tritax own and have put in planning applications for the land. Freightliner would just be a tenant, I believe.

The fact that the planning applications have only just gone through first consultation phase tells us that there is a long way to go yet.

Secretary of State consent not expected until Q3 2027.

Then they have to build it.


Thanks. These pesky facts getting in the way again .....
 
I tend not to believe puff pieces that are purely based on may, could PR.

If Freightliner have the new land already, for example, why haven't they moved yet?If it's too expensive for them to move, why did they buy the land in the first place? I think we can all guess the answers to those questions.
Freightliner have completely lucked out here, because the value of their land just skyrocketed.

The new proposals have the entire site covered in apartments. They are going to make a fortune on this.

They could even sell it plot by plot, instead of a job lot.

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Freightliner have completely lucked out here, because the value of their land just skyrocketed.

The new proposals have the entire site covered in apartments. They are going to make a fortune on this.

They could even sell it plot by plot, instead of a job lot.

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Any evidence the land value has skyrocketed any more than regional growth?

What happens when the government don’t approve due to absolute fantastically / fraudulent proposals?
 
Stefan’s analysis on his substack of the Rags new stadium is fantastic & exactly what we thought that the numbers are grossly exaggerated.
 
Any evidence the land value has skyrocketed any more than regional growth?

What happens when the government don’t approve due to absolute fantastically / fraudulent proposals?
I'm with you on this, but for different reasons. Land values have to make sense for developers. They don't just build for the sake of it. That's why we've seen land banks in past years.
 
I'm with you on this, but for different reasons. Land values have to make sense for developers. They don't just build for the sake of it. That's why we've seen land banks in past years.

I think I’m saying it makes sense to build there whether the Rags build a new stadium or not. It’s a good location but not dependant on Raggy Disney world.
 

Not sure it’s too hard to understand why the buses end up like this. They get caught in traffic somewhere on the route (usually in the city centre) and they begin to bunch together. It will be worse when the service is very frequent (every 6 mins or so). You could arrange for buses to unload all their passengers into the other bus and turn them round but that also leaves passengers waiting at the stops missed out on the return journey no better off. In this day and age of bus tracking apps, it really isn’t as much an issue as this used to be as you at least know your wait time.

It’s not a new thing that Burnham has created. The fix is to stop the cause and getting people out of cars into buses would help that.
 
Not sure it’s too hard to understand why the buses end up like this. They get caught in traffic somewhere on the route (usually in the city centre) and they begin to bunch together. It will be worse when the service is very frequent (every 6 mins or so). You could arrange for buses to unload all their passengers into the other bus and turn them round but that also leaves passengers waiting at the stops missed out on the return journey no better off. In this day and age of bus tracking apps, it really isn’t as much an issue as this used to be as you at least know your wait time.

It’s not a new thing that Burnham has created. The fix is to stop the cause and getting people out of cars into buses would help that.

Anything that can be measured & predicted can be fixed.

It’s poor planning to think it’s just the way it is.
 
It's no good. He won't sleep with you :)

I’d be happy if the missus stamped my card a bit more often & if she could be arsed analysing the Rags I’d compliment her more often.

The justification for the regeneration was so wild it had to be bullshit but it’s good to see thorough analysis.
 

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