They can’t see it. It’s pointless conversing with such people. They need to experience the shitness of populism.You realise that you've basically just said you're a far right racist? Following on the back of your previous support for shitgibbon, it's not a great look
Interesting interpretation... shitgibbon? do you mean Starmer... oh no it's Trump isn't it hope you can forgive my misinterpretation.You realise that you've basically just said you're a far right racist? Following on the back of your previous support for shitgibbon, it's not a great look
Politicians can win, but its not easy. They can win by not claiming ridiculous expenses for luxuries, they can win by being honest when asked questions rather than evading them, even if the answers are not particularly palatable, they can win by doing the job they were elected to do and represent the people of their constituencies to the best of their abilities, they can win by supporting other party initiatives or ideas which have merit rather than opposing them because of their origin, they can win by using parliamentary debates to find solutions rather than an excuse to return to their university debating societies, and they can win by not being fucking hypocrites.Politicians can’t win either way then.
Go and visit people and it’s for their PR; don’t visit and be called heartless and only in it for themselves.
This kind of sums up how politics has got to where it has.
Of course that’s true, but I was replying to your abridged post.Politicians can win, but its not easy. They can win by not claiming ridiculous expenses for luxuries, they can win by being honest when asked questions rather than evading them, even if the answers are not particularly palatable, they can win by doing the job they were elected to do and represent the people of their constituencies to the best of their abilities, they can win by supporting other party initiatives or ideas which have merit rather than opposing them because of their origin, they can win by using parliamentary debates to find solutions rather than an excuse to return to their university debating societies, and they can win by not being fucking hypocrites.
That was talked about some years ago, then went very quietOne idea: Get investing in harvesting wave energy technology and using the Bristol Channel's immense perpetual power to power our grid and then sell the technology around the world under patent.
Yep. I remember. It was shelved due to cost, I think.That was talked about some years ago, then went very quiet
I think that was the turning point where it all started to turn shit...when a pint of Holts breached the £1 ceiling.I think there's a lot of excessive negativity in people's heads these days.
I was sitting in a Holt's pub at 11.00 am yesterday. I'd been out getting groceries and fancied a swift glass.
The other customers were all blokes of a similar age to me. (FOC). They never stopped moaning about this and that. Not that they had anything novel to say. It was like listening to a personification of the Daily Mail.
I thought - fuck me, you're sat here at 11.00 am, supping beer at over £5 a pint. You can't be that hard up, can you? You're not living in a slum either, you're living in Prestwich. North Manchester's answer to Didsbury. It even has a fucking Gale's Bakery!
I look back to how my grandparents used to live, and there's no comparison. But people have got so greedy and entitled that if the government bunged them all an extra 10k a year, they'd still be moaning.
8 pages to establish all politicians are shit and all the same.
Therefore, no type of voting system can put anyone competent in office.
Awesome. What a thread.
I have said it time and time again, I do not rate todays politicians of either stripe (red or blue) particularly good or inspiring. Because I feel this way and have said that apart from not having a party of substance I genuinely don't think Reform could do any worse, I am by default according to luminaries on here such as @BlueHammer85 I am as a dyed in the wool supporter for Reform as they are for Labour... which is simply not true.
I may well vote for Reform, there is about 14 months to go before the next election but given the recent performances by Labour (Wales) and Torys (UK) we have a pretty shit choice as I see it.
I mean… she was correct!Many politicians are up there own arses from all parties
I worked as a vote counter on the night of the should we stay or should we go Brexit vote.
At about 1.30 in the morning it was becoming apparent that we would be leaving the EU.
Standing right behind me was the local Labour MP who will remain nameless.
She turned round to her colleagues and said and I quote
" I knew we should never have given the fools a vote on this one".
Staff counting the votes are told to say nothing and remain neutral otherwise I would gave said to her " Will they be the fools who voted you in in the first place".
And give the fucking king millions in 'seabed rental'Of course that’s true, but I was replying to your abridged post.
I’d much rather they got on with things that made the country better off. Investing in stuff. The people would give them more leeway.
One idea: Get investing in harvesting wave energy technology and using the Bristol Channel's immense perpetual power to power our grid and then sell the technology around the world under patent.
Second idea: Make using public money to pay any rent to the royal family illegal.And give the fucking king millions in 'seabed rental'
Yeah disregarding decades because a man slept with a women and people had a gay old time really proves your point, whatever your point actually is:-)Diverse. More interesting, more colourful and much better food.
Also, way too wide a question. Which ‘defined culture’ would you prefer? 1920’s where everyone was having a gay old time. The 1930’s economic depression and misery all round. The 1940’s - we’ll give that a miss. 1950’s bleak, bad pollution and miserable hence the 1960’s when we decided deference was out and back to a gay old time. 1970’s bad clothes, great music, strikes, three day week, telly off by ten pm and the Yorkshire Ripper. 1980’s yuppies, greed is good and society is dead. 1990’s Brit pop, Major banging Currie and Blair - a bland decade in my view.
So which culture do you pine for? Pick a decade and let me know.
I can never listen to Pulp again now, thank you very much:-)At the same time?
You’re welcome.I can never listen to Pulp again now, thank you very much:-)
Untrue, unfortunately a protest vote for a similar thinking party isn't of any use. There is a feeling that right wing parties are making ground in Europe and have succeeded in the States.This is a concern to many, fear is sometimes needed to make the status quo feel they need to change.Not fancying the two main parties is perfectly understandable, but to cast a protest vote for a party teeming with the very dregs of humanity, the sort who make stepping in dog shit seem like a pleasant surprise, is some flex.
As I have a passing interest in politics, i wandered onto the Reform (Scotland) website the other day to read what their policies were and why they seem to be becoming more popular in Scotland.I don’t think he is, to be fair. He just thinks the system is shit and that all politicians aren’t trustworthy.
He then hears Farage say that all politicians are shit and he agrees with him on that.
After that, like Farage, there’s no detail in what should happen, just the rhetoric around draining the swamp, without thinking about whether what replaces the swamp is better or worse. (Hint, under Trump and Farage, it’d be infinitely worse, as were seeing in America.)
They don’t care about anything apart from lining their pockets.As I have a passing interest in politics, i wandered onto the Reform (Scotland) website the other day to read what their policies were and why they seem to be becoming more popular in Scotland.
This is it:
The Conservatives have failed and Labour will fail too. A vote for either is a vote for more incompetence, dishonesty and failure.
We are ruled by an out of touch political class who have turned their backs on our country.
Reform is the alternative.
Only Reform will stand up for British culture, identity and values. We will freeze immigration and stop the boats. Restore law and order. Repair our broken public services. Cut taxes to make work pay. End government waste. Slash energy bills. Unlock real economic growth.
Only Reform will take back control over our borders, our money and our laws. Only Reform will secure Britain’s future as a free, proud and rich nation.
Other than numerous requests to donate.
I looked for information on how they were going to achieve all that but...........
Sorry hilts, not sure what part of my post you're referring to as untrue?Untrue, unfortunately a protest vote for a similar thinking party isn't of any use. There is a feeling that right wing parties are making ground in Europe and have succeeded in the States.This is a concern to many, fear is sometimes needed to make the status quo feel they need to change.