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It has no doubt been mentioned but a big issue is in regards tourist fans getting away tickets.

Solve that and a lot changes. There will always be tickets available for home games but when they get away games like Utd, Liverpool, Bournemouth and say Brentford that is a piss take.

A lot of the anti tourist stems from that.

I would also suggest City have a section dedicated to tourist fans. Sell all the tickets in a certain block. Open that block to tourist sites whatever, if they sell fine, if not open it up at £30 to local like they do when away clubs do not take the top tier of SS3. But you know where you will be.

Liverpool certainly do, you can see it when there.
I don't go to the away games any more apart from FA Cup semi-finals and Cup Finals but I go to all the home games and I think we have to be very careful about mis-labelling local Asian supporters as tourists. Perhaps that wasn't the intention but it felt like some people were campaigning about this when for me the biggest problem at the moment is ticket pricing and availability.
 
Were the ESL supporter protests the catalyst that changed everything with the clubs attitude towards us? Up until then the relationship between club and traditional fanbase was good. There seemed to be a mutual appreciation which wasn’t just because they delivered success on the pitch. It’s remarkable how completely sour it has turned since then. It’s also no coincidence that the contempt they hold fans in is shared by the American owners of the cartel clubs. United, Liverpool, Chelsea, Spurs and City have all made moves to increase their capacities which can be filled with non-traditional fans (tourists). There seems to be no widespread plans to increase season tickets and match day ticketing prices have increased everywhere. It looks like they’d rather have empty seats than offer reasonably priced match day tickets that can be bought be local fans. The ratio of new fans to traditional fans is increasing all the time. They don’t care if we are onside with their plans or not. Real fan satisfaction and engagement seemingly isn’t even a thing any more. They might tick the box with matchday surveys, but they don’t actually listen and act on our concerns (not sure what other industry would treat its customers in this way). We know the clubs work together on co-ordinated strategies so it doesn’t seem so far fetched that they decided to play the long game when they couldn’t form the breakaway ESL last time around - let the noise die down, work on changing the fan demographic and put their plans back on the table when there will be less resistance. We know they’re driven by money above everything else and a breakaway global league is the ultimate cash cow for them. If they need to completely change the fabric of the game by turning it into some NFL type farce then I don’t think they would think twice about doing so.
 

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Big Steve has nailed it. This disconnect between the club and the fans has been slowly rumbling along the tracks and getting stronger season by season until it's now hit the buffers. Enough is enough and action has to be taken, or everything we loved about supporting this football club will be finished for good. Bizarrely the one thing we all fear/ed the most, losing the 115 charges case, could be the best thing to happen to us if we do lose it. Why? Because there will be a clear out in the boardroom, the glory hunting Johnny come lately fans online and who go to the games will fuck off and once more the club will need us, the ones who were there in the old third division. Only then will they realise we were and are the glue that held and holds this shit together.

My wake up call that the club probably didn't give a shit about the fans started much earlier than this season. It was Wednesday 21st October 2015. Some of you may remember it, that night we beat Seville in the champions league with a late Kevin De Bruyne winner in injury time. It was also the night, without being over dramatic, I could have lost my life.

I was still working then and had just finished a gruelling 84 hour week onboard the ship. I left Dover late morning, arriving back into Manchester around 18:00. After a quick bite to eat in Piccadilly station I went straight to the game. On leaving at the final whistle I slipped on that horrendous ice rink new flooring that had been laid in the south stand and ended up in Salford Royal with a bleed on the brain. On blues and two's to Manchester Royal infirmary who transferred me to Salford Royal once the bleed was discovered on a scan. I posted my story on here at the time.

When I got back home I contacted the club as I realised something had to be done urgently to rectify the inadequate flooring in that area before somebody actually died. I certainly wasn't the first to fall on it. I was told that falling on the front of my head rather than the back probably saved me as the front part of the skull is thicker than the back. I was given the email for the fan liaison officer at the time, I won't name her in this post. I explained what had happened and asked to.meet her and show her the danger that flooring posed. I got no reply. I had a rant on here, Ric saw it and kindly contacted her on my behalf and she responded. Although still signed off sick as I wasn't 100% right I told her I was attending the next home game against Norwich on the 31st October and could meet and speak to her then. She told me couldn't as she was busy, then she was going to Seville for the return leg of the fixture i was injured at. She promised to contact me on her return but never did. To say I was incensed would be putting it mildly. As the club obviously didn't give a fuck about my health or the health of others I decided to take legal advice. The end result of that was after a long and stressful four year legal battle they settled with me out of court.

On the day I asked to meet her, the Norwich game, I stood on that very same concourse and watched three other people fall heavily as they too slipped on it. I told them all what had happened to me and urged them to report it but I never know if they did. Eventually City did an investigation on that area and discovered the paint used on it wasn't mixed properly and therefore it wasn't non slip as it was supposed to be. Not non slip was an understatement, it was like an ice rink even when dry. They eventually relaid it but in my opinion took too long and they were lucky somebody didn't actually die in the time it took them to rectify it. Before they did I saw many others fall victim to it. I have never received an apology from the club for the pain and trauma they caused me that night due to them not ensuring that flooring was laid correctly before allowing fans to walk on it. Zilch, nothing.

Sorry for the long post but that night was the first time I realised we are all just a number and aside from lip service and not wanting to.look bad they really don't give a fuck. Now it appears they're not even bothered about looking bad. Sad times indeed.
 
Big Steve has nailed it. This disconnect between the club and the fans has been slowly rumbling along the tracks and getting stronger season by season until it's now hit the buffers. Enough is enough and action has to be taken, or everything we loved about supporting this football club will be finished for good. Bizarrely the one thing we all fear/ed the most, losing the 115 charges case, could be the best thing to happen to us if we do lose it. Why? Because there will be a clear out in the boardroom, the glory hunting Johnny come lately fans online and who go to the games will fuck off and once more the club will need us, the ones who were there in the old third division. Only then will they realise we were and are the glue that held and holds this shit together.

My wake up call that the club probably didn't give a shit about the fans started much earlier than this season. It was Wednesday 21st October 2015. Some of you may remember it, that night we beat Seville in the champions league with a late Kevin De Bruyne winner in injury time. It was also the night, without being over dramatic, I could have lost my life.

I was still working then and had just finished a gruelling 84 hour week onboard the ship. I left Dover late morning, arriving back into Manchester around 18:00. After a quick bite to eat in Piccadilly station I went straight to the game. On leaving at the final whistle I slipped on that horrendous ice rink new flooring that had been laid in the south stand and ended up in Salford Royal with a bleed on the brain. On blues and two's to Manchester Royal infirmary who transferred me to Salford Royal once the bleed was discovered on a scan. I posted my story on here at the time.

When I got back home I contacted the club as I realised something had to be done urgently to rectify the inadequate flooring in that area before somebody actually died. I certainly wasn't the first to fall on it. I was told that falling on the front of my head rather than the back probably saved me as the front part of the skull is thicker than the back. I was given the email for the fan liaison officer at the time, I won't name her in this post. I explained what had happened and asked to.meet her and show her the danger that flooring posed. I got no reply. I had a rant on here, Ric saw it and kindly contacted her on my behalf and she responded. Although still signed off sick as I wasn't 100% right I told her I was attending the next home game against Norwich on the 31st October and could meet and speak to her then. She told me couldn't as she was busy, then she was going to Seville for the return leg of the fixture i was injured at. She promised to contact me on her return but never did. To say I was incensed would be putting it mildly. As the club obviously didn't give a fuck about my health or the health of others I decided to take legal advice. The end result of that was after a long and stressful four year legal battle they settled with me out of court.

On the day I asked to meet her, the Norwich game, I stood on that very same concourse and watched three other people fall heavily as they too slipped on it. I told them all what had happened to me and urged them to report it but I never know if they did. Eventually City did an investigation on that area and discovered the paint used on it wasn't mixed properly and therefore it wasn't non slip as it was supposed to be. Not non slip was an understatement, it was like an ice rink even when dry. They eventually relaid it but in my opinion took too long and they were lucky somebody didn't actually die in the time it took them to rectify it. Before they did I saw many others fall victim to it. I have never received an apology from the club for the pain and trauma they caused me that night due to them not ensuring that flooring was laid correctly before allowing fans to walk on it. Zilch, nothing.

Sorry for the long post but that night was the first time I realised we are all just a number and aside from lip service and not wanting to.look bad they really don't give a fuck. Now it appears they're not even bothered about looking bad. Sad times indeed.

Sorry that happened to you mate, my friend slipped in the bogs around that time during the West Ham home game when we won the League and knocked himself out and woke up in hospital aswell. The club did fuckall for him either.
 
Maybe Big Steve should run for the next General Secretary of the Manchester City FC Official Supporters Club(OSC)?

Big Steve couldn't do any worse than the current incumbent.

He'd certainly support City fans much more in public.

Parker's latest Tweet on his X account.

His previous Tweet was on the 20th of March.


Maybe he should be part of a new official supporters trust.

The osc don’t seem to be standing up for our fans at the minute
 
City haven't sold new season tickets in ages, but when the seasoncard holders don't show, you see a lot of local City fans. Please do not muddle this group up with 'tourists'. Almost every other comment mentions 'tourists' and in my opinion this is because City fans don't understand who follows City any more. It has changed, and it isn't bad. What is bad is that regular City fans can't afford to follow City any mor
 
Sorry that happened to you mate, my friend slipped in the bogs around that time during the West Ham home game when we won the League and knocked himself out and woke up in hospital aswell. The club did fuckall for him either.

The funny part is if somebody from the club would have met me so I could show them exactly how dangerous it was, showed some concern and maybe a bit of sympathy, I would never have sought legal advice. When they didn't and I was ranting to a mate he said, "Fuck that I'd sue the bastards you must have a good case there." So I did just that.
 
I thought it was a great video but we’re Big Steve’s previous endorsements for a rival ticket agency all a dream??
He vehemently denied that there was any other motivation in posting that than sorting out Blues with reasonably priced tickets. I believe him as well - just watch the video. He’s one of us, we don’t always have to pin something negative on someone who’s a positive voice for the traditional supporters.
 
Maybe Big Steve should run for the next General Secretary of the Manchester City FC Official Supporters Club(OSC)?

Big Steve couldn't do any worse than the current incumbent.

He'd certainly support City fans much more in public.

Parker's latest Tweet on his X account.

His previous Tweet was on the 20th of March.


Great shout mate. KP does not surprise me. As I’ve said, he’s looked after by the club and he lords it over the rest of us. We should be pushing for him to step down. Lost his way and does not represent us fans on the shop floor, so to speak. KP OUT!
 
A lot of people have came over from Hong Kong recently that could also explain the jump in Asian faces in the crowd. A lot of them do live in Manchester and they shouldn't be subjected to abuse. It isn't their fault and they are being ripped off by the reselling sites aswell.

It should be a hell of a lot easier than it is to pass your ticket on to a friend or family member. A lot of people, especially older fans find it very difficult and confusing and when that seat they couldn't pass on gets filled by a tourist (or somebody who looks like one) they unfairly feel the brunt of that resentment.
I don't know much about the Chinese community and we can't ask people at games where they are from but in another topic I recall someone found old census data for Manchester that showed that 43% of Manchester is non-white. After a decade of success, it's completely reasonable to expect to see local Mancs in our crowd when they can get access to tickets and ~43% will be non-white. And on a Cup day when they can attend, you get the influx of half and half scarfs and it's confusing.

Peoples comments on this topic confuse me because I am always wary of a race agenda, probably over-sensitive on occasion and I might see arguments that aren't there but we pose comments on the spur of the moment.
 
He vehemently denied that there was any other motivation in posting that than sorting out Blues with reasonably priced tickets. I believe him as well - just watch the video. He’s one of us, we don’t always have to pin something negative on someone who’s a positive voice for the traditional supporters.
I just wanted to know the truth. I thought Big Steve gave his views from the heart. Maybe the previous endorsement didn’t happen or he has changed his mind. People are entitled to change their mind so I am fine with it either way.

Big Steve was honest enough to say City had ditched him because his face didn’t fit any more. Like I say a really good video.
 
Banner for the Leicester game


VIAGOGO FUCK YOURSELVES CITY

I’m not sure “mascot wars” was a City leak!

Big Steve has nailed it. This disconnect between the club and the fans has been slowly rumbling along the tracks and getting stronger season by season until it's now hit the buffers. Enough is enough and action has to be taken, or everything we loved about supporting this football club will be finished for good. Bizarrely the one thing we all fear/ed the most, losing the 115 charges case, could be the best thing to happen to us if we do lose it. Why? Because there will be a clear out in the boardroom, the glory hunting Johnny come lately fans online and who go to the games will fuck off and once more the club will need us, the ones who were there in the old third division. Only then will they realise we were and are the glue that held and holds this shit together.

My wake up call that the club probably didn't give a shit about the fans started much earlier than this season. It was Wednesday 21st October 2015. Some of you may remember it, that night we beat Seville in the champions league with a late Kevin De Bruyne winner in injury time. It was also the night, without being over dramatic, I could have lost my life.

I was still working then and had just finished a gruelling 84 hour week onboard the ship. I left Dover late morning, arriving back into Manchester around 18:00. After a quick bite to eat in Piccadilly station I went straight to the game. On leaving at the final whistle I slipped on that horrendous ice rink new flooring that had been laid in the south stand and ended up in Salford Royal with a bleed on the brain. On blues and two's to Manchester Royal infirmary who transferred me to Salford Royal once the bleed was discovered on a scan. I posted my story on here at the time.

When I got back home I contacted the club as I realised something had to be done urgently to rectify the inadequate flooring in that area before somebody actually died. I certainly wasn't the first to fall on it. I was told that falling on the front of my head rather than the back probably saved me as the front part of the skull is thicker than the back. I was given the email for the fan liaison officer at the time, I won't name her in this post. I explained what had happened and asked to.meet her and show her the danger that flooring posed. I got no reply. I had a rant on here, Ric saw it and kindly contacted her on my behalf and she responded. Although still signed off sick as I wasn't 100% right I told her I was attending the next home game against Norwich on the 31st October and could meet and speak to her then. She told me couldn't as she was busy, then she was going to Seville for the return leg of the fixture i was injured at. She promised to contact me on her return but never did. To say I was incensed would be putting it mildly. As the club obviously didn't give a fuck about my health or the health of others I decided to take legal advice. The end result of that was after a long and stressful four year legal battle they settled with me out of court.

On the day I asked to meet her, the Norwich game, I stood on that very same concourse and watched three other people fall heavily as they too slipped on it. I told them all what had happened to me and urged them to report it but I never know if they did. Eventually City did an investigation on that area and discovered the paint used on it wasn't mixed properly and therefore it wasn't non slip as it was supposed to be. Not non slip was an understatement, it was like an ice rink even when dry. They eventually relaid it but in my opinion took too long and they were lucky somebody didn't actually die in the time it took them to rectify it. Before they did I saw many others fall victim to it. I have never received an apology from the club for the pain and trauma they caused me that night due to them not ensuring that flooring was laid correctly before allowing fans to walk on it. Zilch, nothing.

Sorry for the long post but that night was the first time I realised we are all just a number and aside from lip service and not wanting to.look bad they really don't give a fuck. Now it appears they're not even bothered about looking bad. Sad times indeed.
Sorry you went through that blue. Istanbul opened my eyes too.
 
I can completely understand your beliefs in getting behind the players and the manager, They deserve backing for all they've done for us and that should work both ways.

I can also see other fans point of view in which the ones that aren't attending, I think the club are getting what they want from it as you can see a divide from fans and somewhat turning on one another unfortunately.

The club need to get their act together and sort this ticketing shit out. Although they won't because they couldn't give a fuck, Hence why I also don't give a fuck and not going the game.

Hopefully you and the daughter don't miss any goals and they start flying in around the 15th minute.
Like every government we’ve had for generations, I can see the club playing fans off against each other, getting us squabbling and divided while they continue to do their shit that casts us further aside.

We have to stick together, I think this is only the very beginning of a long drawn out battle with the club.
 
I honestly don't know Tim.

I don't follow City fans on social media.

I watched the video because it was doing the rounds.

As others have said, fair play to him for coming out in support of the fans, and for being honest and upfront about his dealings with the club in the past.

The PR guff to distract has already started. Maybe I'm too cynical of the people running City, and the tricks they get up to?

Headline news.

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Like very government we’ve had for generations, this seems like the old ‘LOOK AT THIS OVER HERE, NO THIS, LOOK AT THIS OVER HERE’ while trying to distract the media from what the people really care about, trick.
 
Big Steve has nailed it. This disconnect between the club and the fans has been slowly rumbling along the tracks and getting stronger season by season until it's now hit the buffers. Enough is enough and action has to be taken, or everything we loved about supporting this football club will be finished for good. Bizarrely the one thing we all fear/ed the most, losing the 115 charges case, could be the best thing to happen to us if we do lose it. Why? Because there will be a clear out in the boardroom, the glory hunting Johnny come lately fans online and who go to the games will fuck off and once more the club will need us, the ones who were there in the old third division. Only then will they realise we were and are the glue that held and holds this shit together.

My wake up call that the club probably didn't give a shit about the fans started much earlier than this season. It was Wednesday 21st October 2015. Some of you may remember it, that night we beat Seville in the champions league with a late Kevin De Bruyne winner in injury time. It was also the night, without being over dramatic, I could have lost my life.

I was still working then and had just finished a gruelling 84 hour week onboard the ship. I left Dover late morning, arriving back into Manchester around 18:00. After a quick bite to eat in Piccadilly station I went straight to the game. On leaving at the final whistle I slipped on that horrendous ice rink new flooring that had been laid in the south stand and ended up in Salford Royal with a bleed on the brain. On blues and two's to Manchester Royal infirmary who transferred me to Salford Royal once the bleed was discovered on a scan. I posted my story on here at the time.

When I got back home I contacted the club as I realised something had to be done urgently to rectify the inadequate flooring in that area before somebody actually died. I certainly wasn't the first to fall on it. I was told that falling on the front of my head rather than the back probably saved me as the front part of the skull is thicker than the back. I was given the email for the fan liaison officer at the time, I won't name her in this post. I explained what had happened and asked to.meet her and show her the danger that flooring posed. I got no reply. I had a rant on here, Ric saw it and kindly contacted her on my behalf and she responded. Although still signed off sick as I wasn't 100% right I told her I was attending the next home game against Norwich on the 31st October and could meet and speak to her then. She told me couldn't as she was busy, then she was going to Seville for the return leg of the fixture i was injured at. She promised to contact me on her return but never did. To say I was incensed would be putting it mildly. As the club obviously didn't give a fuck about my health or the health of others I decided to take legal advice. The end result of that was after a long and stressful four year legal battle they settled with me out of court.

On the day I asked to meet her, the Norwich game, I stood on that very same concourse and watched three other people fall heavily as they too slipped on it. I told them all what had happened to me and urged them to report it but I never know if they did. Eventually City did an investigation on that area and discovered the paint used on it wasn't mixed properly and therefore it wasn't non slip as it was supposed to be. Not non slip was an understatement, it was like an ice rink even when dry. They eventually relaid it but in my opinion took too long and they were lucky somebody didn't actually die in the time it took them to rectify it. Before they did I saw many others fall victim to it. I have never received an apology from the club for the pain and trauma they caused me that night due to them not ensuring that flooring was laid correctly before allowing fans to walk on it. Zilch, nothing.

Sorry for the long post but that night was the first time I realised we are all just a number and aside from lip service and not wanting to.look bad they really don't give a fuck. Now it appears they're not even bothered about looking bad. Sad times indeed.
Brilliant post and I’m so sorry you went through that, mate.

The way the club treated you was unconscionable, and as you rightly say their disdain for the fans is now brazen.

Thank fuck they are just custodians. We were here before them and we’ll be here after them.
 
As I was driving home this very topic was discussed well on Talksport. Other big clubs are having exactly the same problems as us-tourists, declining atmosphere and away fan mixed in. When you throw in admission prices it’s becoming a big problem.

Fans need to unite and get the media going with this, make it a movement. Wishful thinking maybe but City could be the club that bucks the trend with the new stand. Make your money through these methods in three ends and have one massive “end” behind the goal for working class/traditionsal fans only. It can be done. There’s a business model there.
 

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