PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

The Norfolk Blue said:
I like Luke and watch his vlogs, but he always comes across as nervous on here, up against much older blokes ... I wish they'd allow an Andrew Bucknall or Guy Burke who could really destroy the opposition fans with stone cold facts, especially to that Brummie Rag McKola.
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Hear, hear. Those two fine gentlemen would brook no nonsense.
 
CC1 said:
This sums up the situation. The PL have spent years in an effort to finish us off because they fear our football club model - but this has been to the detriment of football as a whole because it has prevented them from keeping a check on every other club. This has allowed many controversial actions by other clubs that will eventually cause great problems for the PL. The constant rule changes to prevent our progress has also impacted the very teams that are STILL trying to block us.

The whole situation is a fiasco but the media can’t see this.

Imagine what decent journalists in an intelligent media sector could have written about the actions by the PL over the last 6 years. They could destroy it completely but they are on their payroll so have to keep attacking us.
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To be honest, I think the only way forward for the PL is to find us guilty on all charges, punish us, and then declare a fresh start for all other clubs. Just wipe the slate clean and start over.

That seems fair and equitable.
 
ICYMI on TalkSport (do me a favour and don’t start a debate about the source or veracity), my "understanding" from someone close to a horse is that as of this weekend not only did nobody have the decision but nobody knew when it was due with any precision.
 
Gorbachev said:


mcfc lads on The Overlap today.

Ipswich fan basically saying it will be unfair if they get relegated if we are guilty, but not judgement made this season.
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Don't watch this anymore as it is just full of cryarsing red cartel muppets and hosted by cryarsing red cartel softarses.
What is the point of a city fan going on there and giving their opinion on proceedings only to have the fuckin gobby twat from utd putting his fingers in his ears and acting like a 5 year old.

But sky sports must appease all their red cartel sheep out there.
 
Centurions said:
To be honest, I think the only way forward for the PL is to find us guilty on all charges, punish us, and then declare a fresh start for all other clubs. Just wipe the slate clean and start over.

That seems fair and equitable.
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That’s certainly how the PL think

I’d love to see the PL kicked into touch & a new independently regulated structure put in place. The only hope of this happening is if our lawyers have smashed the charges - the PL - as it is now - should then disappear
 
terraloon said:
Think you are linking too many things at the same time here.

We are yet to see what, if anything happens re Chelsea with regard to the matters that were self reported. Of course I have read the articles in the press but ,we simply don’t know the extent of what Chelsea’s new owners uncovered or more relevant the completeness. It could be everything reported in the press but at the same time it could be far more. We simply don’t know.

The point remains that the new owners and therefore almost certainly the PL won’t have been able to access to our ex owner or his records to conduct a full investigation. Add to that as you well know from your background if you don’t grant concessions when people self report you are in grave danger that issues uncovered by current or even future owners will remain hidden if there is no advantage by coming clean indeed ,we have absolutely no idea what skeletons are in other clubs closets!

Do I you think for one second Chelsea would have self reported if RA was still the owner? No i certainly dont so, at this stage Chelsea ,if they hadn’t self reported would following the leaks be looking at some point of charges akin to Cities.


When it comes inter club transactions of course they should be disallowed when it comes to PSR . But, as Stephan points out the clubs made a conscious decision not to ban them. The fact that they won’t count when it comes to FFP sort of suggests that they may well have ploughed on with them regardless .That said the tariffs structure published by UEFA isn’t really that much of a deterrent.

The hotels from my limited understanding based on location / land value % occupancy etc seemed to be high valuation wise but not unreasonable. However the information re the woman’s team seems to be a crazy valuation but the mechanism is there to challenge.
Like your owners ours are far from novices when it comes to money matters so no doubt will have their justifications already lined up.

Who knows ? What we do know is that even after UEFa and indeed the PL stepped into restrict the length a transfer fee can be amortised, Chelsea still are handing out contracts in excess of 5 years so they may have carried out these transactions irrespective . We simply don’t know!

Bohley and company aren’t getting close to the best press that’s for sure but, there again most clubs supporters genuinely believe their clubs receive unfair treatment. I am far from blinkered in this regard and feel many of the press reports have a certain merit but certainly not all of them

As for City I don’t actually think this has anything to do with your owners colour, your owners background or anything other than it’s down to a quirk in British thinking in that we for some reason like the plucky underdog and don’t like winners. My take is the press here feed on that narrative and will do everything it can to tap into that negativity and, in a blink of an eye the whole nation ( save fans associated with the club being hammered) buys into that school of thought.

As I said earlier If RA was still our owner would it be right to say we were being treated differently because he is a Jew ? Of course not

If you weren’t winning things you would be termed almost plucky or a great role model a bit like Brighton or come to that Bournemouth both who have used the rules to their advantage . One running up hugely beneficial owner loans the other writing off huge ownership loans but to a large degree their other indiscretions go un reported , In the case of Brighton there have been some interesting other matters that didn’t even get a line in the national press.

Of course the PL have had to investigate the Chelsea matters . If you read my postings on this forum re this I have always said I expect a sanction of some sort indeed , it was me that flagged up months before there was a suggestion in the press that it might actually not result in charges but be settled by agreement.

It’s easy to think that I am suggesting that Chelsea should be treated differently but what has gone on at Chelsea’s treatment is different for one simple reason and that’s because the PL ,once RA sold up will not have had the same ability to conduct a complete investigation.
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That is mostly just saying everything I said you would say in my third paragraph, none of which holds up, imho, as I tried to point out in my original post.

The only new point is that the PL and the press are so aggressive because City are currently successful. I seem to remember Chelsea bring successful at some point. I just don't buy that.

Anyway, this isn't the thread for this so I will shut up :)
 
First thing this morning I had the usual Liverpool heads giving it loads about how the decision mess on Sky this morning and we are being docked 40 points.

I said yeah, right. What day is today again.

You’re all going to be so disappointed when the decision does come out.
 
slbsn said:
ICYMI on TalkSport (do me a favour and don’t start a debate about the source or veracity), my "understanding" from someone close to a horse is that as of this weekend not only did nobody have the decision but nobody knew when it was due with any precision.
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Has anyone close to a horse heard if the search for a new PL CEO on the cards….
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
First thing this morning I had the usual Liverpool heads giving it loads about how the decision mess on Sky this morning and we are being docked 40 points.

I said yeah, right. What day is today again.

You’re all going to be so disappointed when the decision does come out.
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Must be a nightmare for you where you are, with it being full of "Proper" scousers and all :)
 
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