President Trump

[noseve]

A perfect storm.

A privileged, not particularly gifted little boy growing up, being told 'you must NEVER admit that you're wrong, or that you have been beaten. It's ok, to lie, as long as you maintain the lie. If you have to change the lie, just lie about the previous lie' .

Ingrained with the most overwhelming sense of entitlement the world has ever seen.

Combine that with his family's innate siege mentality and having no friends, well it's not surprising that he hasn't the slightest concept of 'mutual benefit'. The idea of giving a mate a few quid so that you could both enjoy a night out? You must be joking.

So, with this twisted mindset - and not having the intelligence (or need) to ever grow out of it, it's not surprising that today this same moron looks at import/export ratios and when he sees the States buying more from a country than they sell to it, immediately thinks that the US is being cheated.

It simply doesn't occur to him that a seller with a large market might just be expected to see bigger numbers than a seller with a small one.

Neither does he for one moment realise that every single US export is the result of a voluntary, considered decision by a US-based business person because that is what's best for that individual/company. Even taking into account any tariffs. Nobody is holding a gun to their head.

Of course, all of this would be of no real consequence in the global sense had our moron's time not coincided with the frankly still inconceivable level of blind faith in him shown by the American public - despite him having an undisputed, documented record akin to the worst soap-opera villain.

It wouldn't appear that there's much future in looking to the Democrats or any internal Republican schism for help. I think that the other nations will just have to write the US off like an old friend who's changed beyond recognition and focus upon grown-up politics with trustworthy partners.

Let's face it, the aversion to dealing with China on human-rights grounds seems more difficult to justify, considering what's happening in the States right now?

Such a pity that Brexit came before Trump - I couldn't see the UK severing ties with EU right now, seeing this mess?

 

[robbieh]

Someone said that the best thing about this shit show is that it puts to bed the idea that the deep state run everything. Cause if they did they'd have shut Trump's nonsense down already probably by shooting him.

Not that the maga crowd will notice this discrepancy.

 

[inbetween]

50% of the population have below average intelligence. 20% must therefore be thick as mince. If someone can find a way of mobilising the moronic to vote for them that’s a substantial base of support. That’s what populist bullshit and lies spread by social media does.

Politics never attracts anything from a position of intelligence.

What is the intelligence of anybody who voted for the current Labour party? This is a party which so far has taken benefits away from pensioners, soon the disabled and has otherwise increased taxes upon businesses at a time when they're claiming to be a party of growth? What on earth did people really vote for if they were intelligent??

If you look at the choice of this Labour or the Tories then is populism actually just inevitable? Or are you saying that people should be banned from voting or should social media itself be banned? All I see is that Trump was the inevitable outcome of a political system that does not work, Reform are similarly a product of mainstream party failure, but yes social media plays a part but that vacuum already existed and it's spreading throughout Europe.

I don't know why people can't see that it's not always about Trump because there are not 75m MAGA nutters. Sometimes it is about rejecting the utter calamity of the alternative which was represented best by the last president who looked old, ill and more often than not lost.

 

[flook]

A perfect storm.

A privileged, not particularly gifted little boy growing up, being told 'you must NEVER admit that you're wrong, or that you have been beaten. It's ok, to lie, as long as you maintain the lie. If you have to change the lie, just lie about the previous lie' .

Ingrained with the most overwhelming sense of entitlement the world has ever seen.

Combine that with his family's innate siege mentality and having no friends, well it's not surprising that he hasn't the slightest concept of 'mutual benefit'. The idea of giving a mate a few quid so that you could both enjoy a night out? You must be joking.

So, with this twisted mindset - and not having the intelligence (or need) to ever grow out of it, it's not surprising that today this same moron looks at import/export ratios and when he sees the States buying more from a country than they sell to it, immediately thinks that the US is being cheated.

It simply doesn't occur to him that a seller with a large market might just be expected to see bigger numbers than a seller with a small one.

Neither does he for one moment realise that every single US export is the result of a voluntary, considered decision by a US-based business person because that is what's best for that individual/company. Even taking into account any tariffs. Nobody is holding a gun to their head.

Of course, all of this would be of no real consequence in the global sense had our moron's time not coincided with the frankly still inconceivable level of blind faith in him shown by the American public - despite him having an undisputed, documented record akin to the worst soap-opera villain.

It wouldn't appear that there's much future in looking to the Democrats or any internal Republican schism for help. I think that the other nations will just have to write the US off like an old friend who's changed beyond recognition and focus upon grown-up politics with trustworthy partners.

Let's face it, the aversion to dealing with China on human-rights grounds seems more difficult to justify, considering what's happening in the States right now?

Such a pity that Brexit came before Trump - I couldn't see the UK severing ties with EU right now, seeing this mess?

Father was a cowboy builder and tax dodger

By the time of his death, Fred had amassed an estimated $300 million fortune. However, his success wasn’t without controversy. Fred was arrested in 1976 over a series of code violations at a building he owned in Maryland. Years after his death, a 2018 New York Times investigation found the entrepreneur had evaded nearly $500 million in taxes stemming from money transfers to his children.

Grandfather owned a brothel and dodged conscription

Born and raised in Kallstadt, Germany, in what was then the Kingdom of Bavaria, Trump emigrated to the United States in 1885. In 1891, he began speculating in real estate in Seattle. During the Klondike Gold Rush, he moved to the Yukon and made his fortune by operating a restaurant and a brothel for miners in Whitehorse.

In 1901, Trump returned to Kallstadt and married Elisabeth Christ. As he had purportedly immigrated to the United States in order to evade conscription, the Bavarian Government stripped him of his citizenship in 1905. Consequently, he returned to the United States with his family.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree

 

[west didsblue]

Politics never attracts anything from a position of intelligence.

What is the intelligence of anybody who voted for the current Labour party? This is a party which so far has taken benefits away from pensioners, soon the disabled and has otherwise increased taxes upon businesses at a time when they're claiming to be a party of growth? What on earth did people really vote for if they were intelligent??

If you look at the choice of this Labour or the Tories then is populism actually just inevitable? Or are you saying that people should be banned from voting or should social media itself be banned? All I see is that Trump was the inevitable outcome of a political system that does not work, Reform are similarly a product of mainstream party failure, but yes social media plays a part but that vacuum already existed and it's spreading throughout Europe.

I don't know why people can't see that it's not always about Trump because there are not 75m MAGA nutters. Sometimes it is about rejecting the utter calamity of the alternative which was represented best by the last president who looked old, ill and more often than not lost.

Complete rubbish.

Your takes on pretty much everything these days are just bizarre and are up there with BigJoe’s as the most uninformed on the forum.

Can’t be arsed dismantling your post because it’s too ridiculous. I won’t bother responding in future.

 

[TonyM]

Someone said that the best thing about this shit show is that it puts to bed the idea that the deep state run everything. Cause if they did they'd have shut Trump's nonsense down already probably by shooting him.

Not that the maga crowd will notice this discrepancy.

Ear today gone tomorrow.

 

[Gabriel]

Purging of more military ‘disloyalty’ this week and negative economic news domestically; suspect there might well be the takeover of somewhere sizeable quite soon. In for a penny, in for a krone…

 

[bluethrunthru]

he is all heart

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

Politics never attracts anything from a position of intelligence.

What is the intelligence of anybody who voted for the current Labour party? This is a party which so far has taken benefits away from pensioners, soon the disabled and has otherwise increased taxes upon businesses at a time when they're claiming to be a party of growth? What on earth did people really vote for if they were intelligent??

If you look at the choice of this Labour or the Tories then is populism actually just inevitable? Or are you saying that people should be banned from voting or should social media itself be banned? All I see is that Trump was the inevitable outcome of a political system that does not work, Reform are similarly a product of mainstream party failure, but yes social media plays a part but that vacuum already existed and it's spreading throughout Europe.

I don't know why people can't see that it's not always about Trump because there are not 75m MAGA nutters. Sometimes it is about rejecting the utter calamity of the alternative which was represented best by the last president who looked old, ill and more often than not lost.

Translation: I am unhappy with all of my choice alternatives. The fact that I am unhappy with these choices isn’t my fault — it’s everyone else’s fault. Despite many patient explanations of the current dilemma from others, I would rather reject or ignore their perspectives. Rather than make compromises, or actually perhaps even effect change myself, I will moan and moan and moan and moan about the same thing over and over again. As such, I receive little sympathy, increasing frustration regarding the need or desire to engage with me and merely irritate. As such, many have put me on ignore.

 

[inbetween]

Complete rubbish.

Your takes on pretty much everything these days are just bizarre and are up there with BigJoe’s as the most uninformed on the forum.

Can’t be arsed dismantling your post because it’s too ridiculous. I won’t bother responding in future.

Is it rubbish? So everything was hunky doory and going great until populism supporting thickos spoilt the party?

The biggest precipitating event in Europe was the migration crisis and can we judge that governments have responded robustly to the migration crisis? The truth is they haven't responded well at all and the result is the narrative has become very easily dominated by populists and that has continued unchallenged by action for nearly a decade!

Nothing proves this more than the inconvenience of the facts around the US border. Border encounters were at record peaks under Biden and now they're the lowest ever. Did Americans vote for Trump because of the perception that he'd do something about it urgently? Yes they did and he evidently has done something about it urgently, something the opposition can only muster the strength to call racist or whatever because they have no answers.

What was Harris going to do about the border? Nobody knows and nobody ever will know.

 

[inbetween]

Translation: I am unhappy with all of my choice alternatives. The fact that I am unhappy with these choices isn’t my fault — it’s everyone else’s fault. Despite many patient expectations of the current dilemma from others, I would rather reject or ignore their perspectives. Rather than make compromises, or actually perhaps even effect change myself, I will moan and moan and moan and moan about the same thing over and over again. As such, I receive little sympathy, increasing frustration regarding the need or desire to engage with me and merely irritate. As such, many have put me on ignore.

Continue as you are, maybe the Democrats would win next time by instead forgoing policy and merely calling 50% of Americans assholes and stupid?

Nothing sums up it up more han the Democrats rolling out Beyonce to hope and pray that people were stupid enough to vote for their own brand of celebrity led populism, oh the irony eh?

 

[super_city_si]

His policy will make rich people a fuck-ton richer. Why do you think they've been queuing round the block to donate to his 'campaign fund'?

And he's never going to lose his base. They don't actually support his policies, they are essentially Trimp fans and will swallow any and all of his bullshit without question.

They’re like city fans in the mid 90s and are just about to enter the Alan Ball phase

Sing it with me “Donald trumps an economic genius”

 

[BobKowalski]

Is it rubbish? So everything was hunky doory and going great until populism supporting thickos spoilt the party?

The biggest precipitating event in Europe was the migration crisis and can we judge that governments have responded robustly to the migration crisis? The truth is they haven't responded well at all and the result is the narrative has become very easily dominated by populists and that has continued unchallenged by action for nearly a decade!

Nothing proves this more than the inconvenience of the facts around the US border. Border encounters were at record peaks under Biden and now they're the lowest ever. Did Americans vote for Trump because of the perception that he'd do something about it urgently? Yes they did and he evidently has done something about it urgently, something the opposition can only muster the strength to call racist or whatever because they have no answers.

What was Harris going to do about the border? Nobody knows and nobody ever will know.

Your graph shows a steep decline in 2024 - it was in fact a decline of 77% due to changes in policy on both sides of the border ie under Biden.

I think we can safely assume such a decline would have continued with Harris as it would have been a continuation of the Biden/Harris policy.

The article to go with the graph.

Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border have fallen sharply in 2024

The monthly number of U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing from Mexico has plummeted in 2024 from 2023's record high.

www.pewresearch.org

 

[blueparrot]

Is it rubbish? So everything was hunky doory and going great until populism supporting thickos spoilt the party?

The biggest precipitating event in Europe was the migration crisis and can we judge that governments have responded robustly to the migration crisis? The truth is they haven't responded well at all and the result is the narrative has become very easily dominated by populists and that has continued unchallenged by action for nearly a decade!

Nothing proves this more than the inconvenience of the facts around the US border. Border encounters were at record peaks under Biden and now they're the lowest ever. Did Americans vote for Trump because of the perception that he'd do something about it urgently? Yes they did and he evidently has done something about it urgently, something the opposition can only muster the strength to call racist or whatever because they have no answers.

What was Harris going to do about the border? Nobody knows and nobody ever will know.

Hoisted by your own petard.Ring any bells ?

 

[noseve]

I don't know why people can't see that it's not always about Trump because there are not 75m MAGA nutters. Sometimes it is about rejecting the utter calamity of the alternative which was represented best by the last president who looked old, ill and more often than not lost.

There is a time and a place for a protest vote - in case you're still wondering, this wasn't it.

Trump didn't creep up on everybody, unless they have the memory of a goldfish.

Let's go along with your 'justification/excuse' for this situation, just for a moment - how do you explain away the fact that Fox et al are still cosying up and parroting everything Trump says, instead of admitting "Damn, we misjudged that one..."

Of course it's ALWAYS ABOUT TRUMP!!?!

 

[inbetween]

Your graph shows a steep decline in 2024 - it was in fact a decline of 77% due to changes in policy on both sides of the border ie under Biden.

I think we can safely assume such a decline would have continued with Harris as it would have been a continuation of the Biden/Harris policy.

The article to go with the graph.

Migrant encounters at U.S.-Mexico border have fallen sharply in 2024

The monthly number of U.S. Border Patrol encounters with migrants crossing from Mexico has plummeted in 2024 from 2023's record high.

www.pewresearch.org

Who would you say led the perception of who was going to be strongest at the border? The only reason why the Democrats started to do anything is because of the dangers of not doing anything. With a free electoral run they probably wouldn't have done anything, the evidence is why did it take them 2 years just to make a start? Surely an invasion of record numbers at the border demands an immediate response? This didn't happen.

By the time they chose to act they had also lost legislative power and would have to rely upon Republican support which was always going to be a problem, clearly it was too late. Funnily enough it's at this stage that they realised that Biden was not going to beat Trump and funnily enough they axed him. It's quite obvious that their policy base and even the main candidate wasn't good enough.

Biden actually might of done better than Harris though, I don't know, the run up and the election itself was just an end-to-end disaster. You would only vote Democrat if you didn't want Trump and that wasn't enough.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

They’re like city fans in the mid 90s and are just about to enter the Alan Ball phase

Sing it with me “Donald trumps an economic genius”

Is Donald going to tell everyone that 'I won the World Cup you know"?

 

[flook]

Is it rubbish? So everything was hunky doory and going great until populism supporting thickos spoilt the party?

The biggest precipitating event in Europe was the migration crisis and can we judge that governments have responded robustly to the migration crisis? The truth is they haven't responded well at all and the result is the narrative has become very easily dominated by populists and that has continued unchallenged by action for nearly a decade!

Nothing proves this more than the inconvenience of the facts around the US border. Border encounters were at record peaks under Biden and now they're the lowest ever. Did Americans vote for Trump because of the perception that he'd do something about it urgently? Yes they did and he evidently has done something about it urgently, something the opposition can only muster the strength to call racist or whatever because they have no answers.

What was Harris going to do about the border? Nobody knows and nobody ever will know.

you do realise that that drop is largely because the mexicans have thought "fuck that I'm staying here, America's a shitshow I'd rather avoid at the moment"

 

[noseve]

You would only vote Democrat if you didn't want Trump and that wasn't enough.

But - according to your own previous posts - it was good enough reason the other way round?
I'll leave you to it - far too nuanced for me

 

[flook]

You would only vote Democrat if you didn't want Trump and that wasn't enough.

For any right-minded person who had experienced Trump V1, heard his pre-election diatribes, watched his support of insurrection in 2020, seen his criminal activity on multiple fronts and read his project 25 manifesto, that should have been enough.

Personally I'd have voted for Pol Pot before I voted Shitgibbon