President Trump

inbetween said:
Who would you say led the perception of who was going to be strongest at the border? The only reason why the Democrats started to do anything is because of the dangers of not doing anything. With a free electoral run they probably wouldn't have done anything, the evidence is why did it take them 2 years just to make a start? Surely an invasion of record numbers at the border demands an immediate response? This didn't happen.

By the time they chose to act they had also lost legislative power and would have to rely upon Republican support which was always going to be a problem, clearly it was too late. Funnily enough it's at this stage that they realised that Biden was not going to beat Trump and funnily enough they axed him. It's quite obvious that their policy base and even the main candidate wasn't good enough.

Biden actually might of done better than Harris though, I don't know, the run up and the election itself was just an end-to-end disaster. You would only vote Democrat if you didn't want Trump and that wasn't enough.
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So it’s perception and not reality or facts that matter? And how is that working out for everyone?

Republicans/Trump/Conservatives/Reform all campaign on emotion, primarily fear. Reason and logic all take a long vacation and it’s wall to wall fear from invasions at the border (not happening), all the way down to the price of fucking eggs.

That you can say with a straight face that the Democrat policy base wasn’t good enough when the other side had zero policies other than nonsense about tariffs, not to mention in the one and only debate Harris made Trump look like an idiot, is bizarre. You can live in this alternate world where reality distorts around you like a bad LSD trip, but the rest of us will keep our feet on terra firma.
 
flook said:
For any right-minded person who had experienced Trump V1, heard his pre-election diatribes, watched his support of insurrection in 2020, seen his criminal activity on multiple fronts and read his project 25 manifesto, that should have been enough.

Personally I'd have voted for Pol Pot before I voted Shitgibbon
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I mean, it’s a stretch but I’ll allow it :)
 
flook said:
For any right-minded person who had experienced Trump V1, heard his pre-election diatribes, watched his support of insurrection in 2020, seen his criminal activity on multiple fronts and read his project 25 manifesto, that should have been enough.

Personally I'd have voted for Pol Pot before I voted Shitgibbon
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It’s really as simple as this. The fact that certain posters can’t admit it — and that we take this as evidence of their stupidity, naïveté and/or amorality despite everything that has transpired that’s proven us precisely correct for the millionth time about Trump — is a “them” problem, not an “us” problem. I’m tired of arguing with them. Some have come around; some are far too cowardly to show their faces; others like this bonehead continue with their “but I don’t like my choices” twattery.
 
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flook said:
you do realise that that drop is largely because the mexicans have thought "fuck that I'm staying here, America's a shitshow I'd rather avoid at the moment"
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Yep.
It’s not the greatest of immigration policies to make your own country so shit no one wants to go there.
 
bluethrunthru said:
he is all heart

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Stick tariffs on anybody you want but to do this......... America, you have shown you have no heart or soul. If the people who didn't vote for the idiot do not shout their displeasure from the highest rooftops, they are as complicit as this turd.

Trump the Putin puppet.

Edit: the fuckwits are now saying the emails were sent in error !

They are utterly stupid and clueless. Even if it was an error. Who tells an individual, legally in the US they have 7 days to leave ?
What a disgusting country America has become.
 
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inbetween said:
Biden actually might of done better
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BobKowalski said:
So it’s perception and not reality or facts that matter? And how is that working out for everyone?

Republicans/Trump/Conservatives/Reform all campaign on emotion, primarily fear. Reason and logic all take a long vacation and it’s wall to wall fear from invasions at the border (not happening), all the way down to the price of fucking eggs.

That you can say with a straight face that the Democrat policy base wasn’t good enough when the other side had zero policies other than nonsense about tariffs, not to mention in the one and only debate Harris made Trump look like an idiot, is bizarre. You can live in this alternate world where reality distorts around you like a bad LSD trip, but the rest of us will keep our feet on terra firma.
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Is it an alternate reality because here we are here with a Trump second term. The failure of the Democrat message really is well proven. I don't like Trump but I couldn't fathom what Harris was doing or going to do. It's therefore no surprise to me that she lost, I was however surprised that Clinton lost the first time around and I think Trump was surprised too!

I think this also comes down to problems with ideology, IE, on immigration the Democrats are more pro-immigration so how could they ever swing that? It's sort of like Labour today who would ideologically open the floodgates if they could but they can't because where would they be in the polls then? One could very easily argue therefore that their heart isn't really in doing something about these problems.

It's hard to claim that something so complex should be founded in logic and reason as though voters know anything about economics and legislative issues, that isn't why anybody votes. Nobody votes for what they think is sensible, they vote for what they want and why shouldn't they? If a sizeable number of the population seriously wants to end immigration entirely then who can stand in their way even if it's a bad idea?

If we are to ignore emotion and free thinking and instead somehow rely upon people finding their senses then don't be surprised when this 'terra firma' superiority complex implodes in 4 years time.
 
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The American Age Is Over

Emergency Triad: The United States commits imperial suicide.
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We cannot overstate what has just happened. It took just 71 days for Donald Trump to wreck the American economy, mortally wound NATO, and destroy the American-led world order.

He did this with the enthusiastic support of the entire Republican party and conservative movement.

He did it with the support of a plurality of American voters.

He did not hide his intentions. He campaigned on them. He made them the central thrust of his election. He told Americans that he would betray our allies and give up our leadership position in the world.

There are only three possible explanations as to why Americans voted for this man:
  1. they wanted what he promised;
  2. they didn't believe what he promised; or
  3. they didn't understand what he promised.
Pick whichever rationale you want, because it doesn't matter. Whatever the reason was, it exposed half of the electorate—the 77 million people who voted for Trump—as either fundamentally unserious, decadent, or weak.

And no empire can survive the degeneration of its people.
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Understand this: There is no going back.

If, tomorrow, Donald Trump revoked his entire regime of tariffs, it would not matter. It might temporarily delay some economic pain, but the rest of the world now understands that it must move forward without America.

If, tomorrow, Donald Trump abandoned his quest to annex Greenland and committed himself to the defense of Ukraine and the perpetuation of NATO, it would not matter. The free world now understands that its long-term security plans must be made with the understanding that America is a potential adversary, not an ally.

This realization may be painful for Americans. But we should know that the rest of the world understands us more clearly than we understand ourselves.

Vladimir Putin bet his life that American voters would be weak and decadent enough to return Donald Trump to the presidency. He was right.

Europeans are moving ahead with their own security plans because they realize, as a French minister put it, "We cannot leave the security of Europe in the hands of voters in Wisconsin every four years." He was right.
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The world will move on without us.

Economically this means that international trade will reorganize without the United States as the central hub. Relationships will be forged without concern as to our preferences. The dollar may well be displaced as the world's reserve currency. American innovation will depart for other shores as the best and brightest choose to make their lives in countries where the rule of law is solid,secret police do not disappear people from the streets,and the government does not discourage research and make economic war on universities.

There's a reason why countries like Belarus and El Salvador aren't tech hubs.

All of this will mean slower growth at home and declining economic mobility. The pie will shrink and people will become more desperate to hold on to their slices.
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The end of the American era doesn't mean everything will become chaos overnight. We aren't going to wake up tomorrow to the sound of the blaring war rig horn from Mad Max. We are still a rich country, with momentum carrying us forward. But in ways that will soon be perceptible and eventually be undeniable, things will get worse. And facts about America and the world that we have taken for granted since the end of the Second World War will no longer hold true.
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We have a deeply stupid government—from our economically illiterate president to our craven and foolish secretary of state, from the freelancing billionaire dilettante who is gutting American soft power to the vaccine-denying health secretary who is firing as much talent as he can. From the senior economics advisor who thinks comic books are good investments, to the senators who voted to confirm this cabinet of hacks, to the representatives who stumble over themselves justifying each new inane MAGA pronouncement.

But also, we have the government we deserve.

The American age is over. And it ended because the American people were no longer worthy of it.
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Trump is not a clever man, he is not a visionary man, he is a pitiful man.

I feel sorry for him, he does not have the mental ability to grasp complex problems. He is like Johnson, he loves himself and thinks because he loves himself he has the answers to issues he does not comprehend. It is cultish, MAGA is a cult.

Like Johnson, Trump has the ability to pander to stupidity and ignorance, that is their level.

Trump is a fragile man, he was the son of a dominant father who behaved like a monster by all the accounts i have read, that makes him insecure, he feels he needs to be seen as strong because his daddy would have hated his weakness. This is what the tariffs are all about, it is nothing to do with economics, it is all about validation of Trump as a leader, he needs and craves respect, because he is at the end of the day, the weak little son of a horrible father.
 
Rascal said:
Trump is not a clever man, he is not a visionary man, he is a pitiful man.

I feel sorry for him, he does not have the mental ability to grasp complex problems. He is like Johnson, he loves himself and thinks because he loves himself he has the answers to issues he does not comprehend. It is cultish, MAGA is a cult.

Like Johnson, Trump has the ability to pander to stupidity and ignorance, that is their level.

Trump is a fragile man, he was the son of a dominant father who behaved like a monster by all the accounts i have read, that makes him insecure, he feels he needs to be seen as strong because his daddy would have hated his weakness. This is what the tariffs are all about, it is nothing to do with economics, it is all about validation of Trump as a leader, he needs and craves respect, because he is at the end of the day, the weak little son of a horrible father.
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While I appreciate the psychoanalysis, and it’s probably accurate to a degree, I do not and will never “feel sorry for him.” His entire life has been about a willingness to make others suffer for his own benefit.

People are responsible for their own actions.
 
Trump is a rich man he was clever enough to fool a large number of people to vote for him he has affected the whole world, openly supporting Russia, Cuba, and Belarus they were left out of the tariffs.
Johnson inadequate for the roll of PM but to his credit was a strong supporter of Ukraine.
 
Rascal said:
Trump is not a clever man, he is not a visionary man, he is a pitiful man.

I feel sorry for him, he does not have the mental ability to grasp complex problems. He is like Johnson, he loves himself and thinks because he loves himself he has the answers to issues he does not comprehend. It is cultish, MAGA is a cult.

Like Johnson, Trump has the ability to pander to stupidity and ignorance, that is their level.

Trump is a fragile man, he was the son of a dominant father who behaved like a monster by all the accounts i have read, that makes him insecure, he feels he needs to be seen as strong because his daddy would have hated his weakness. This is what the tariffs are all about, it is nothing to do with economics, it is all about validation of Trump as a leader, he needs and craves respect, because he is at the end of the day, the weak little son of a horrible father.
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The days of feeling sorry for Trump are long gone. He was personally responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans during the pandemic due to his gross mismanagement and many more in other parts of the world through his vacuous policy decisions. He is responsible for making billions of people poorer and less secure through his economic illiteracy. He has abandoned or threatened to abandon allies such as the Kurds in Syria, the Ukrainians and the Afghans who supported the US in the war on terror. He admires tyrants like Putin and he is intent on reversing policies that will slow down the destruction of the planet. Everything he does is designed to enrich himself at the expense of everyone else.
Save your sympathy for someone more deserving like just about anyone else in the world. He’s an evil despot up there with all the other evil despots that we have learnt about throughout history.
 
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