The Chants Against Foden's Mum

mexico1970 said:
To be fair mate you can put the it's 2025 remark alongside the fully grown man quote people often mention.

But we all have different opinions and yours is as valid as anyone else's.
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Of course. People do things in the safety and strength of the crowd they wouldn't do on their own. These days though with CCTV and everybody filming on their phones and uploading it to social media, the anonymity of the crowd isn't guaranteed anymore. These days as a man of a certain age would I sing such songs now? Absolutely not. If I was a teenager or in my twenties would I? I'd like to think not but who knows? That's why I use the 2025 analogy in these posts. I'd like to think people's behaviour and mindset has improved from 50 years ago. On the whole I think it has but the darkness is still bubbling below the surface.
 
Goes to show how bad the game was, when the only talking point is a chant that nobody even heard during the actual match.

A shit stirring reporter (Think is was Sam Wallace) thought it was worth bringing up in the press conference and Pep weighed in, giving it more gravity. And everybody got column inches out of it.
 
Citi-leaks said:
Goes to show how bad the game was, when the only talking point is a chant that nobody even heard during the actual match.

A shit stirring reporter (Think is was Sam Wallace) thought it was worth bringing up in the press conference and Pep weighed in, giving it more gravity. And everybody got column inches out of it.
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As you say shit stirring. He should have asked Amorim about it as it was his fans singing it. You can bet if it was our fans they would have given Pep loads of grief, asking if he condemned it and if he was ashamed of his fans etcetera.
 
paulchapo said:
As you say shit stirring. He should have asked Amorim about it as it was his fans singing it. You can bet if it was our fans they would have given Pep loads of grief, asking if he condemned it and if he was ashamed of his fans etcetera.
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paulchapo said:
Of course. People do things in the safety and strength of the crowd they wouldn't do on their own. These days though with CCTV and everybody filming on their phones and uploading it to social media, the anonymity of the crowd isn't guaranteed anymore. These days as a man of a certain age would I sing such songs now? Absolutely not. If I was a teenager or in my twenties would I? I'd like to think not but who knows? That's why I use the 2025 analogy in these posts. I'd like to think people's behaviour and mindset has improved from 50 years ago. On the whole I think it has but the darkness is still bubbling below the surfac
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I'm more worried about the stabbings, the misogyny, the onlyfan quick earners and the utterly selfish bastards in our society than a chant, nobody is sanitising the human race even if they attempt to, there's no polishing a turd.

Peoples mindset hasn't improved it has gotten worse, people still speak and act violently as I have always said the only thing that changes is the target, even the Victorians with their stuck up ways didn't moralise like the profit hungry cunts in power around us right now :)
 
halfcenturyup said:
He could have said "He doesn't care about that sort of nonsense". By suggesting it's a problem he is just ensuring it happens again and again, imho.
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No, as a decent human being he rightly defended his player and said he found it unacceptable. As any human being with a moral compass would. Being a football fan doesn't give people a free pass to be a vile fucker. Once the media mentioned it it was out of the box so absolutely nothing Pep said would put it back in.
 
paulchapo said:
No, as a decent human being he rightly defended his player and said he found it unacceptable. As any human being with a moral compass would. Being a football fan doesn't give people a free pass to be a vile fucker. Once the media mentioned it it was out of the box so absolutely nothing Pep said would put it back in.
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You seem to think this is a media driven thing. My Facebook was full of condemnation of it (which made me laugh) from rags during the game and after. It was such a unique chant in this day and age that it was more noticed than the usual run of the mill chants.

For me any attention the media are giving it is to show what a bunch of cunts united fans are. And that can only be a good thing, regardless if it’s an absolute nothing of a story or not
 
mexico1970 said:
I'm more worried about the stabbings, the misogyny, the onlyfan quick earners and the utterly selfish bastards in our society than a chant, nobody is sanitising the human race even if they attempt to, there's no polishing a turd.

Peoples mindset hasn't improved it has gotten worse, people still speak and act violently as I have always said the only thing that changes is the target, even the Victorians with their stuck up ways didn't moralise like the profit hungry cunts in power around us right now :)
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I think everyone is concerned about those things as well but we're discussing the Foden chant.
People and their mindset and behaviour on the whole have improved from 50 years ago. You rarely hear racist remarks in the pub or anywhere in public, certainly not at the match. Most games nowadays I can go to without running or fighting for my life like I often did in the seventies and eighties. Now a lot of that's probably a result of legislation being tightened and improved safety measures. As I mentioned in an earlier post the darkness is always bubbling below the surface so perhaps you're right and it's only the fear of prosecution keeping it in.
 
bladdered said:
Classless but not surprising.
I remember back in the 70's when United played Liverpool just after Kevin Keegan's dad had died of cancer.
The Stretford End serenaded him with "Keegan, Keegan how's yer dad?"
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I remember back in the 90s we played Everton and something had come out about Neville Southall’s wife. Something similar was said, I think it was where’s your wife as it turns out she had been playing away like a cheap little whore.

Quite ironic for this thread.
 
LangleyBlue1970 said:
You seem to think this is a media driven thing. My Facebook was full of condemnation of it (which made me laugh) from rags during the game and after. It was such a unique chant in this day and age that it was more noticed than the usual run of the mill chants.

For me any attention the media are giving it is to show what a bunch of cunts united fans are. And that can only be a good thing, regardless if it’s an absolute nothing of a story or not
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I didn't think it was media driven but unless you were at the game and hadn't fallen asleep watching that borefest on the telly I doubt you'd have noticed it. These days the media will probably highlight such incidents. Although I have no problem with them asking Pep about it they should have asked Amorim about it. If it was our fans singing it there's no doubt Pep would have been grilled to death on the subject.
 
paulchapo said:
I didn't think it was media driven but unless you were at the game and hadn't fallen asleep watching that borefest on the telly I doubt you'd have noticed it. These days the media will probably highlight such incidents. Although I have no problem with them asking Pep about it they should have asked Amorim about it. If it was our fans singing it there's no doubt Pep would have been grilled to death on the subject.
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We did notice it. It was loud as fuck. My missus rarely says anything about football but even she said are they saying some one is a slag? I just laughed and said it’s football fans being cunts.

I think you’d have to have been deaf not to notice it.
 
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