Open Letter on Season Tickets and Pricing | Club announce price freeze on "general admission season tickets & PL match tickets" for next season (p163)

Prestwich_Blue said:
This is absolutely true. Even after the Leicester protest the club originally came to the table at the meeting with City Matters last night with an initial proposal of a 2.8% average increase.

Un-fucking-believable.
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This is fucking disgraceful.

@Alex - City Matters this isnt the end right? You won't just accept a freeze? £71 min for Villa on a Tuesday night game, adding in kids tickets and stuff, is absolutely fucking ridiculous. This isn't a victory. They came to the table with a 2.8% increase as an opener, knowing they'd negotiate and settle at 0%. I don't want zero. I want -50%.

They had a number that was hilarious knowing they'd be "negotiated" down. What was your number? Where did you start to end up at 0%?

The nature of protests is that they are essentially bribery. It doesn't matter if it's about wages or tickets or some Government decision. The entire point is getting the people in power to say "you are creating more fuss than it's costing me to handle this". They are forced to bribe you to go away. When people went after Swales, they were chanting against him, they were bothering him, they were releasing statements about him. He paid (i.e. fucked off) in order to bribe them (i.e. move on from him).

That's how protesting works.

So I ask. What was your number? They had a number at 2.8% Col says, and you had your number and you met in the middle at 0%. Status quo. Still getting fucked. Did you have a number?

This doesn't end here. Anything but a reduction is bullshit and not good enough, and if the various fan groups accept this as some "concession" rather than a literal Fuck You then I'll set up my own fan group consisting of us "radical lefty types" who think City should only make £50m a year pure profit rather than £75m a year. You have a responsibility.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
This is absolutely true. Even after the Leicester protest the club originally came to the table at the meeting with City Matters last night with an initial proposal of a 2.8% average increase.

Un-fucking-believable.
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As @Ric said when the Viagogo thing was announced, absolutely tone deaf. Staggering that they still thought that was acceptable
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
This is absolutely true. Even after the Leicester protest the club originally came to the table at the meeting with City Matters last night with an initial proposal of a 2.8% average increase.

Un-fucking-believable.
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Your information proves this is far from over. Right now the club will be licking it's wounds and plotting how to ensure they tighten the ship and ensure future protests have a negligible effect.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
This is absolutely true. Even after the Leicester protest the club originally came to the table at the meeting with City Matters last night with an initial proposal of a 2.8% average increase.

Un-fucking-believable.
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Was it you who said that every time City increase ticket prices around 6% of ST holders give uk their STs?
 
Apologies that I haven't been able to post earlier on the thread, particularly after today's news. It has been a long few days.

As Colin says above, the Club originally came in with a proposed increased aligned with CPI. They relented on this at last night's meeting. As far as I am aware, that's the first time that the Club have ever done so on a proposed price increase.

Since October, we have made it clear that our request was for season ticket prices to be reduced, or frozen at a bare minimum. That was supported by the several other fan groups that signed the open letter we published in February.

That said, the conversation is far from over. I don't consider the matchday pricing freeze to be a win, as such, given that they already outweighs the amounts charged at other clubs - let alone the prices for juniors. And there are a wide range of other issues to work on, such as the all games on sale policy.

Now clearly, I am not going to be in the room moving forward as my time on City Matters is up. But given that I / we haven't been able to achieve even a price freeze in recent seasons, it is slightly heartening to have achieved that at the end. And the effort of City Matters, wider fan groups and the supporter base at large has been critical in that process.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
Home tickets shouldn't be any more than 45 quid for adults for every game. What a statement that would be if the club could do it
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£35-50 for adult tickets
£25-40 for O65 tickets
£15-20 for child tickets
…are fair prices for what is essentially 60 minutes of action in a sport with the ball out of play a great deal.
 
Alex - City Matters said:
Now clearly, I am not going to be in the room moving forward as my time on City Matters is up. But given that I / we haven't been able to achieve even a price freeze in recent seasons, it is slightly heartening to have achieved that at the end. And the effort of City Matters, wider fan groups and the supporter base at large has been critical in that process.
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So just as someone starts making progress, they need to be replaced.

How completely coincidental and definitely not designed into the FAB structure and planned out.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
£35-50 for adult tickets
£25-40 for O65 tickets
£15-20 for child tickets
…are fair prices for what is essentially 60 minutes of action in a sport with the ball out of play a great deal.
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Correct, and whatever the match day ticket prices in a particular section are, season ticket holders should get a circa 25% reduction. So
£500-£700 for adults
£350-£550 for OAP’s
£200-£250 for kids
 
Alex - City Matters said:
Apologies that I haven't been able to post earlier on the thread, particularly after today's news. It has been a long few days.

As Colin says above, the Club originally came in with a proposed increased aligned with CPI. They relented on this at last night's meeting. As far as I am aware, that's the first time that the Club have ever done so on a proposed price increase.

Since October, we have made it clear that our request was for season ticket prices to be reduced, or frozen at a bare minimum. That was supported by the several other fan groups that signed the open letter we published in February.

That said, the conversation is far from over. I don't consider the matchday pricing freeze to be a win, as such, given that they already outweighs the amounts charged at other clubs - let alone the prices for juniors. And there are a wide range of other issues to work on, such as the all games on sale policy.

Now clearly, I am not going to be in the room moving forward as my time on City Matters is up. But given that I / we haven't been able to achieve even a price freeze in recent seasons, it is slightly heartening to have achieved that at the end. And the effort of City Matters, wider fan groups and the supporter base at large has been critical in that process.
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Alex, did you ever manage to ask the question and receive a definitive answer about, is the club planning on increasing the premium seat offering into East stand blocks 104 and 107, therefore pricing out existing season card holders?

And I'm also interested in that the club came to the table with an "average" 2.8% increase. Not a 2.8 across the board
This obviously means some areas, or age groups, were going to be increased by more than 2.8
Can you tell us where or who?
 
dickie davies said:
Alex, did you ever manage to ask the question and receive a definitive answer about, is the club planning on increasing the premium seat offering into East stand blocks 104 and 107, therefore pricing out existing season card holders?

And I'm also interested in that the club came to the table with an "average" 2.8% increase. Not a 2.8 across the board
This obviously means some areas, or age groups, were going to be increased by more than 2.8
Can you tell us where or who?
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Again, I feel like some people aren't used to negotiating with people. They didn't come with a 2.8% rise expecting to leave with a 2.8% rise. They came in with a wild idea that they knew they could "benevolently acquiesce" on. City walked out with exactly or better than they wanted. Your opening salvo is not what you want in these situations, it's a ridiculous idea that you will abandon but you have to start as high as you can to get knocked down and appear to have "lost".
 
Damocles said:
Again, I feel like some people aren't used to negotiating with people. They didn't come with a 2.8% rise expecting to leave with a 2.8% rise. They came in with a wild idea that they knew they could "benevolently acquiesce" on. City walked out with exactly or better than they wanted. Your opening salvo is not what you want in these situations, it's a ridiculous idea that you will abandon but you have to start as high as you can to get knocked down and appear to have "lost".
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I had contact with Alex a couple of months ago and he was going to ask
I'm following up my request
It wasn't necessarily a question to be tabled at this meeting
 
Beaker said:
Correct, and whatever the match day ticket prices in a particular section are, season ticket holders should get a circa 25% reduction. So
£500-£700 for adults
£350-£550 for OAP’s
£200-£250 for kids
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Liverpool's prices are:
Adult: £713-£904
O-65's: £534.75-£678
Young Adults: £356.50-£452
Junior: £165 across the board.
 
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