President Trump

[The perfect fumble]

Bolllocks

Really?

Which country entered the war on principle? You think we did? In defence of Poland? A country we could supply no material aid to let alone defend?

At the Munich agreement in September 1938 we allowed Germany to annex the Sudetenland, a region of Czechoslovakia,.......

Prime Minister Chamberlain: “How horrible, fantastic, incredible it is that we should be digging trenches and trying on gas-masks here because of a quarrel in a far-away country between people of whom we know nothing. It seems still more impossible that a quarrel which has already been settled in principle should be the subject of war."

But in March the following year Hitler invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia, we knew he couldn't be trusted after that and appeasement came to an end but it took the invasion of Poland to realise war was inevitable and we subsequently declared war on Germany.

The following year, in one of the pivotal moments of the war, Germany offered terms to the British Empire which, on paper at least, were quite attractive, it would have meant no war for us, but Churchill the new Prime Minister was able to kill it dead not as a matter of principle but as a matter of trust.

In the 30s we tried to appease Hitler but in the end we declared war because that wasn't working, we rejected overtures from him to sit it out and we "kept on buggering on" not out of principle but because Hitler could not be trusted on any deal that gave us any other option.

That is not to disparage this country, that period, before Hitler invaded the USSR and then the Yanks came in, the fate of the world was in our hands, had we done a deal with Hitler and sat it out the world would be a very different place, those that deface Churchill's statue should give that a thought sometime.

 

[bluethrunthru]

The lesson wasn't learned in Lincolnshire.

I find it piss funny that both losers Canada and Oz, who were Trump lite, not only lost an election but lost their seats and so their jobs and their influence which shows what the direction of travel for his politics is.

 

[SWP's back]

You think we did? In defence of Poland?

Yes. And we really really tried not to, as you go on to show you’re aware of.

But this isn’t the thread for it so I’m not going to go into further detail.

 

[The perfect fumble]

Yes. And we really really tried not to, as you go on to show you’re aware of.

But this isn’t the thread for it so I’m not going to go into further detail.

Fair enough, but if you do ever start a thread on it, I'd be interested to know what principle it was.

 

[noseve]

I find it piss funny that both losers Canada and Oz, who were Trump lite, not only lost an election but lost their seats and so their jobs and their influence which shows what the direction of travel for his politics is.

But... the exception that proves the rule -
Reform Party ignites in UK local elections

Quoting Nigel Farage, "I would advise anybody who is working for Durham County Council on Climate Change initiatives, or Diversity Equity and Inclusion""I think you all better really be seeking alternative careers, very very quick"

Worrying times.

 

[tweety]

But... the exception that proves the rule -
Reform Party ignites in UK local elections

Quoting Nigel Farage, "I would advise anybody who is working for Durham County Council on Climate Change initiatives, or Diversity Equity and Inclusion""I think you all better really be seeking alternative careers, very very quick"

Worrying times.

So you're happy to see your council tax being pissed up the wall on non jobs?

 

[bluethrunthru]

But... the exception that proves the rule -
Reform Party ignites in UK local elections

Quoting Nigel Farage, "I would advise anybody who is working for Durham County Council on Climate Change initiatives, or Diversity Equity and Inclusion""I think you all better really be seeking alternative careers, very very quick"

Worrying times.

New for you - there are NO DEI staff at Durham CC. As for Climate Change thats a central govt policy so they will just cost their electorate some funding and have to explain that to them OR central govt could set up a system where individuals and businesses apply for direct funding and just cut Reform out of the loop.

Meantime as for sackings - although his mob didn't vote for the recently enhanced workers rights bill it is now law - an awful lot of council staff are union members so there would be lots of litigation and even strikes

 

[bluethrunthru]

So you're happy to see your council tax being pissed up the wall on non jobs?

There are no DEI officers in Durham CC so I have done a back of a fag packet calculation and I reckon the princely sum of £0.00 is being pissed up a wall somewhere there

 

[tweety]

New for you - there are NO DEI staff at Durham CC. As for Climate Change thats a central govt policy so they will just cost their electorate some funding and have to explain that to them OR central govt could set up a system where individuals and businesses apply for direct funding and just cut Reform out of the loop.

Meantime as for sackings - although his mob didn't vote for the recently enhanced workers rights bill it is now law - an awful lot of council staff are union members so there would be lots of litigation and even strikes

In the real world if those jobs ceased to exist the staff would be made redundant or redeployed, no one will get sacked.

 

[tweety]

There are no DEI officers in Durham CC so I have done a back of a fag packet calculation and I reckon the princely sum of £0.00 is being pissed up a wall somewhere there

You really are the font of all knowledge

 

[west didsblue]

Fair enough, but if you do ever start a thread on it, I'd be interested to know what principal it was.

Principle.

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Which country entered the war on principal? You think we did?

None, because it’s spelt ‘principle’. :-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Principle.

Beat me to it!

 

[The perfect fumble]

None, because it’s spelt ‘principle’. :-)

:-)

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

:-)

Grammatik steht über allem!

 

[The perfect fumble]

Principle.

I'm old and I feel it, give me a break ;-)

 

[The perfect fumble]

At last!! Something of use associated with Trump!!

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[Blue Mist]

I find it piss funny that both losers Canada and Oz, who were Trump lite, not only lost an election but lost their seats and so their jobs and their influence which shows what the direction of travel for his politics is.

Id agree if Farage and his idiots hadn't won here. It's a worrying sign for England

 

[west didsblue]

Beat me to it!

I need to apply for a spell checking licence which will license me to check spellings.

 

[noseve]

New for you - there are NO DEI staff at Durham CC. As for Climate Change thats a central govt policy so they will just cost their electorate some funding and have to explain that to them OR central govt could set up a system where individuals and businesses apply for direct funding and just cut Reform out of the loop.

Meantime as for sackings - although his mob didn't vote for the recently enhanced workers rights bill it is now law - an awful lot of council staff are union members so there would be lots of litigation and even strikes

That's good to hear, on a detailed level - but I was more concerned on a general level that the face of Reform would even come out with that stuff, whether it would be enforceable or not.