FA Cup Final | Crystal Palace (N) | Sat 17 May 4:30pm

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Whether or not said:
I have to agree with you here. It does seem that we have become a fan base who want to constantly moan about everything. I fully support the protests at the Etihad, and stayed on the concourse, but all this anger about the cup final seems a bit contrived. The FA Cup final is a big national occasion, you can’t expect the whole thing to organised around our preferences, it just isn’t realistic.
I am pretty sure that in 2011, having not had a cup final for 30 years, we would have sold out without complaint if it had kicked off at midnight.
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100 % mate, blueMOAN
 
Damocles said:
People are broke. This isn't rocket science, its effecting every single part of society. And while they can get by on a season ticket or can choose to pay £100 for the Villa game outside it, asking them to pay even more and more and more has become unsustainable.

Someone up there spoke about being sheltered. Football fans are the most sheltered people in the world. The entire live entertainment industry is going through an attendance crisis. The cost of living and inflation is through the roof. The lowest 30% of this country say they can barely afford essentials such as food and bills. And during these societal issues, we've seen corporate football entities introduce the largest price rises in the history of professional football.

But no, you lot keep banging on about other Blues being "spoilt". Thats the real problem, not the systemic and ongoing collapse of the economy. It's other fans fault.

Seeing how many Blues have literally tried to turn on people because they're standing up to a near billion pounds hugely profitable trillionaire owned business is absolutely disgusting. As a Mancunian, someone who comes from a place where protesting for the people against the upper classes is literally built into the fabric of this city, it disgusts me.

Thankfully your grandfathers and grandmothers had stronger stomachs and didn't turn on their own, otherwise we'd still be doing 90 hours a week in a factory while women weren't allowed to vote. (Thats supposed to be something we don't want).
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Fair point mate
 
Gingers Dad said:
It was about 20 pence for a junior to stand on the Kippax in 1974. The price uplift between a home game and a Wembley final would have been far greater if you paid £1.75 at Wembley
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It would have been more than that in 1974. When I started going in 1968 it used to be 2/6d to go into the scoreboard and if it was pissing down and you decided you needed a roof over your head you could pay another 6d and use the transfer gate into the Kippax. This was for a junior and pre decimalisation.
Me and my mate sussed out that if we paid into the scoreboard as soon as the gates opened ( Around 1pm ) we could jump over the wall, run along the concourse and jump the next wall into the Kippax so saving 6d. Those were the days lol.
 
johnnytapia said:
Last train back is 9pm with the whole train being unreserved seating. You’ll be 100% allowed on it, regardless of what train you’ve already booked on.
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In my experience if you are on a train rammed with football fans the guard hides in his office and never comes around checking tickets. Euston does have those automatic gates you have to put a ticket in to open but I reckon they may be open anyway faced with thousands of football fans trying to get through them. The same with all the ticket inspectors I reckon they won't fancy asking thousands of pissed up football fans for their tickets.
 
Mike Brock said:
8 of us just booked the train, slightly concerned about the scramble to get the last train but fuck it, if we miss it we get a night out in London and have a leisurely journey home on the Sunday
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For the Aguerooooo game against QPR I had to travel up from Dover as the boss on the ship I worked on kindly let me off, but I had to work the Saturday and got off around 6:30pm. In spite of my best efforts and running all the way from.St Pancreas to Euston I missed the last Manchester train by seconds. I discovered there was a later train going to Leeds from Kings Cross so I jumped on that. I had a couple of hours wait in Leeds before a replacement bus to Manchester getting in Piccadilly about 5am on the Sunday. I'm.not sure if that train is still going and it's a ball ache but at least you get home eventually.
Just checked no Leeds train but one to Sheffield which is closer.
 
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While it may not be ideal for those who miss the last Manchester train there are later options from St Pancreas going to Sheffield. How you get home from there late at night I'm not sure but maybe a kindly friend or family member could pick you up.lol. The 22:31 actually goes to Derby getting in at 00:45.
 

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paulchapo said:
It would have been more than that in 1974. When I started going in 1968 it used to be 2/6d to go into the scoreboard and if it was pissing down and you decided you needed a roof over your head you could pay another 6d and use the transfer gate into the Kippax. This was for a junior and pre decimalisation.
Me and my mate sussed out that if we paid into the scoreboard as soon as the gates opened ( Around 1pm ) we could jump over the wall, run along the concourse and jump the next wall into the Kippax so saving 6d. Those were the days lol.
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My first season ticket cost £5 for a junior in the Kippax in 1976. Which works out at just under 24 pence a match. The matchday price for the Kippax was 30 pence for a junior. I remember that because of the outrage when Swales slapped on an extra 10 pence for the Juventus game. I reckon I'm just about right with 20 pence in 1974.
 
Gingers Dad said:
My first season ticket cost £5 for a junior in the Kippax in 1976. Which works out at just under 24 pence a match. The matchday price for the Kippax was 30 pence for a junior. I remember that because of the outrage when Swales slapped on an extra 10 pence for the Juventus game. I reckon I'm just about right with 20 pence in 1974.
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Possibly. Looking at it again if it was 3 shillings into the Kippax back in 1968/9 that would have been 15p after decimalisation. So yes it could have been 20p in 1974.
 
I'll be deeply disappointed if we don't sell out our allocation for the final.
It will be a terrible look for the long term image and good of the club and give the "No fans" brigade all the validity they need for the next 20 years.

I'll be watching the match on my TV at home obviously. (I live remote).

Being a football fan is a journey of contradiction at times.

Big thumbs up to those who do go. Safe journey and hopefully you have a great day.
 
Whether or not said:
I have to agree with you here. It does seem that we have become a fan base who want to constantly moan about everything. I fully support the protests at the Etihad, and stayed on the concourse, but all this anger about the cup final seems a bit contrived. The FA Cup final is a big national occasion, you can’t expect the whole thing to organised around our preferences, it just isn’t realistic.
I am pretty sure that in 2011, having not had a cup final for 30 years, we would have sold out without complaint if it had kicked off at midnight.
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We have been a fanbase that likes to moan like fuck the 40 years I have supprted us, the kippax had plenty of misserable fuckers on it as did the pubs pre amd post match around Maine Rd.

Social media and platforms.such as this and other means every moaninng **** can be heard further than the corner or a pub, a seat in the ground or sat onn a bus home that is all, but I don't see higher levels of moaning tbf.

As for the cup being a big occasion, it is but it isn't the Spectacle it was 20 plus years ago:
Semi finals a wembley,
The rags fucking it off one season and getting away with it,
Teams playing the reserves,
TV controling Kick off times,
The broadcasters making what once as an all day telly event now no more than any other live game broadcast wise.
And finally the FA allowing it to become just another game in the season not the showpiece finale that wraps up another footballing year.

The FA cup was marginalised and made less important by those controlling the game so don't blame people being apathetic about going to a third one in a row, for some priorities are elsewhere and I repect their choice, I am going along with some I go to the game with some of those are not going, bit all have 30-50 yr of following the club all over the place in that time, fair play to them too if they cannot/will not go because of whatever reason.
 
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Mr Grumpy said:
I'll be deeply disappointed if we don't sell out our allocation for the final.
It will be a terrible look for the long term image and good of the club and give the "No fans" brigade all the validity they need for the next 20 years.

I'll be watching the match on my TV at home obviously. (I live remote).

Being a football fan is a journey of contradiction at times.

Big thumbs up to those who do go. Safe journey and hopefully you have a great day.
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There is zero chance that will happen. No idea what your motives for posting it are.
 
urban genie said:
We have been a fanbase that likes to moan like fuck the 40 years I have supprted us, the kippax had plenty of misserable fuckers on it as did the pubs pre amd post match around Maine Rd.

Social media and platforms.such as this and other means every moaninng **** can be heard further than the corner or a pub, a seat in the ground or sat onn a bus home that is all, but I don't see higher levels of moaning tbf.

As for the cup being a big occasion, it is but it isn't the Spectacle it was 20 years ago:
Semi finals a wembley,
The rags fucking it off one season and getting away with it,
Teams playing the reserves,
TV controling Kick off times,
The broadcasters making what once as an all day telly event now no more than any other live game broadcast wise.
And finally tge FA allowing it to become just another game in the season not the showpiece finale that wraps up another footballing year.

The FA cup was marginalised and made less important by those controlling the game so don't blame people being apathetic about going to a third one in a row, for some priorities are elsewhere and I repect their choice, I am going along with some I go to the game with some of those are not going, bit all have 30-50 yr of following the club all over the place in that time, fair play to them too if they cannot/will not go because of whatever reason.
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Good post.

It was 2000 when UTD binned it off?
I also have memories of UTD losing to York because they couldn't be arsed. Dreadful club.

The FA have to pay for the new stadium so they've enforced the semi's there. It is a cash grab.

The FA murdered the cache' of their own comp. Idiots.
 
Gingers Dad said:
My first season ticket cost £5 for a junior in the Kippax in 1976. Which works out at just under 24 pence a match. The matchday price for the Kippax was 30 pence for a junior. I remember that because of the outrage when Swales slapped on an extra 10 pence for the Juventus game. I reckon I'm just about right with 20 pence in 1974.
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I first started going in 1974 and I remember distinctly that it was 25p for a junior on the Kippax. Mainly because that was my weekly spends off me Dad!
 
urban genie said:
We have been a fanbase that likes to moan like fuck the 40 years I have supprted us, the kippax had plenty of misserable fuckers on it as did the pubs pre amd post match around Maine Rd.

Social media and platforms.such as this and other means every moaninng **** can be heard further than the corner or a pub, a seat in the ground or sat onn a bus home that is all, but I don't see higher levels of moaning tbf.

As for the cup being a big occasion, it is but it isn't the Spectacle it was 20 years ago:
Semi finals a wembley,
The rags fucking it off one season and getting away with it,
Teams playing the reserves,
TV controling Kick off times,
The broadcasters making what once as an all day telly event now no more than any other live game broadcast wise.
And finally tge FA allowing it to become just another game in the season not the showpiece finale that wraps up another footballing year.

The FA cup was marginalised and made less important by those controlling the game so don't blame people being apathetic about going to a third one in a row, for some priorities are elsewhere and I repect their choice, I am going along with some I go to the game with some of those are not going, bit all have 30-50 yr of following the club all over the place in that time, fair play to them too if they cannot/will not go because of whatever reason.
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That about sums it up perfectly. You're right about the moaning it's always happened at games and elsewhere, as you say now with social media it appears there's more of it but there isn't really.

Cup finals I always try to get to as we were deprived of any for so many years. They are great and worth every penny if you win and a fucking awful waste of time and money if you lose. Our record in fa cup finals is a bit mixed. I've seen us win against Watford and the rags ( I couldn't get a ticket for the Stoke final) and lose against Spurs, Wigan and the rags.
I'm hoping having such a poor season by our standards and it potentially being Kev's last chance to win a trophy galvanises us to win the fucker. If we go into it like the rags and Wigan final Palace will turn us over, no mistake. They are the underdogs with the whole country behind them and a decent outfit on their day. I will be there.
 
paulchapo said:
There is a huge world of difference between a semi final and a final.
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I was very surprised that we didn't fill our quota for the SF.
I thought it was in part a consequence of the current protests by the city fan groups?

Wasn't a good look either way.
 
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