India / Pakistan conflict.

[Strangerepublic]

Before the East India company rocked up the sub continent was an idyllic paradise and if it hadn't would still be one. Same goes for everywhere else the Europeans contaminated two hundred years ago with its weird ideas of civilization.

"Europeans contaminated two hundred years ago with its weird ideas of civilization."
What exactly is "civilised" about mass slave trade, starving tens millions to death in India through repeated man made famines, opening fire on unarmed Indian civilians demanding freedom (just after masses of Indians had died fighting for the empire, in WW1 incidentally), or leaving India in a state where over 90% of the population had no roads, electricity, schools, clean water.....

Go on, really eager to know.

 

[hilts]

There is no excuse for what UK did under colonization. Looting and killings of innocents for centuries. Just the monetary number is Trillions in current value. The killings and genocide of millions will not be forgotten ever. No amount of virtue signaling will be able to cover the atrocities committed by the racist colonizers.

Its why I punch an Italian if I see one in Chester

 

[johnny crossan]

"Europeans contaminated two hundred years ago with its weird ideas of civilization."
What exactly is "civilised" about mass slave trade, starving tens millions to death in India through repeated man made famines, opening fire on unarmed Indian civilians demanding freedom (just after masses of Indians had died fighting for the empire, in WW1 incidentally), or leaving India in a state where over 90% of the population had no roads, electricity, schools, clean water.....

Go on, really eager to know.

irony like logic is not your strong suit is it?

 

[hilts]

Humans are just terrortorial animals. It's the only explanation.

Yep

 

[M16 citeh]

What year does that stop being an excuse? Coming up on 80 years of independence in a couple of years.

It's not an excuse it's historically factual. The wrongs can't be righted but to understand India and most other countries of the global south, one has to acknowledge the systematic underdevelopment that happend during the colonial period. Europe got a head start at the expense of the rest of the world and we are living through the aftermath of that.

 

[Coatigan]

Trying to pretend India responding to savage terror attacks on its civilians is the problem..... while living in a country that has participated in unprovoked attacks on Libya and Iraq, and which is meddling in a war against Russia that is none of its concern..... isn't helping your points one either. FYI.

I've made no points whatsoever, so far. Just tried to help you with a side observation.

 

[hilts]

We did do fuck all when they did though!

We got quite grumpy with them.

 

[M16 citeh]

Before the East India company rocked up the sub continent was an idyllic paradise and if it hadn't would still be one. Same goes for everywhere else the Europeans contaminated two hundred years ago with its weird ideas of civilization.

Tell em again

 

[M16 citeh]

There is no excuse for what UK did under colonization. Looting and killings of innocents for centuries. Just the monetary number is Trillions in current value. The killings and genocide of millions will not be forgotten ever. No amount of virtue signaling will be able to cover the atrocities committed by the racist colonizers.

Reparations are well in order but would cripple the west for generations... Let's be honest it's going that way anyway!

 

[KS55]

"Europeans contaminated two hundred years ago with its weird ideas of civilization."
What exactly is "civilised" about mass slave trade, starving tens millions to death in India through repeated man made famines, opening fire on unarmed Indian civilians demanding freedom (just after masses of Indians had died fighting for the empire, in WW1 incidentally), or leaving India in a state where over 90% of the population had no roads, electricity, schools, clean water.....

Go on, really eager to know.

Have you misunderstood jc’s post? He was attacking colonists. The subcontinent, however, was not an idyllic paradise.

 

[i kne albert davy]

Its why I punch an Italian if I see one in Chester

If the Haaland weren’t so big he’d be getting it an all, Norman bastards.:-)

 

[hilts]

If the Haaland weren’t so big he’d be getting it an all, Norman bastards.:-)

I boo him and get some right shit for it

I, I just tell them what his great great great great great great great great grandad did.

Always falls on death ears, its like they don't hold a grudge for an eternity on people who weren't actually there. Weidros.

Still never been in IKEA either

 

[Strangerepublic]

I believe something similar did happen in Salisbury a few years ago but we didn't launch a missile attack on Moscow.

Really, Russia killed 26 British civilians in Salisbury? After about a few dozen other prior attacks, resulting in thousands of civilian deaths?
Why did Britain launch attacks on Iraq and Libya, did they kill British civilians in Brighton or someplace?

 

[hilts]

Worlds gone mad, the only fucker enjoying this is Billy Joel, he fell over he was so giddy to add another few verses.

 

[Strangerepublic]

irony like logic is not your strong suit is it?

Not when someone is as good at irony as you are, because I have seen any number of Empire apologists defend the supposedly amazing British empire using exactly similar words.

What is irony is that I would be more pro British, foam at the mouth nationalist, than your average Farage supporter. Amazing country, unbelievable achievements in science, art, literature. Just that I don't count the empire as one of its plus points.

 

[M18CTID]

Really, Russia killed 26 British civilians in Salisbury? After about a few dozen other prior attacks, resulting in thousands of civilian deaths?
Why did Britain launch attacks on Iraq and Libya, did they kill British civilians in Brighton or someplace?

Not so much related to Iraq but with regards to Libya I don't know whether you're old enough to remember this:

Murder of Yvonne Fletcher - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And of course in 1988 there was this:

Pan Am Flight 103 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Mancityus]

Its why I punch an Italian if I see one in Chester

Do not understand your hatred. Inter fully deserved to be in the finals.

 

[Coatigan]

The state of this thread!

And for a minute I actually wondered why has this would gone straight to the politics sub.

 

[Blue warrior]

Putin calling for restraint hahahaha fucking brilliant

 

[Strangerepublic]

Not so much related to Iraq but with regards to Libya I don't know whether you're old enough to remember this:

Murder of Yvonne Fletcher - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

And of course in 1988 there was this:

Pan Am Flight 103 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Yes, I remember, Yvonne's death was used as a reason to justify supporting the US air attacks on Libya a year later.

Now multiply that by 26 and you get the Pahalgam terror attack on India.
Multiply that further by 1000 and you get the cumulative, relentless wave of Pakistani terrorist attacks on India over the last few decades.