The Labour Government

city2 said:
I just wanna know when these cunts help the British people for a change, we have all suffered in this country and the only ones who haven’t are the incredibly rich people of this country
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I’m not a Labour voter (well, aside from very recently where I voted for their candidate in the locals) but I don’t get this sentiment. They’ve implemented a few policies that target the rich. They’re a bit damned if they do damned if they don’t though as they either get pelters for it in most of the media and social media for it or people just seemingly ignore they’ve done anything at all.

The irony is people seem to be turning to a party that opposed any of those policies and would increase the disparity of wealth even further.
 
meltonblue said:
I’m not a Labour voter (well, aside from very recently where I voted for their candidate in the locals) but I don’t get this sentiment. They’ve implemented a few policies that target the rich. They’re a bit damned if they do damned if they don’t though as they either get pelters for it in most of the media and social media for it or people just seemingly ignore they’ve done anything at all.

The irony is people seem to be turning to a party that opposed any of those policies and would increase the disparity of wealth even further.
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done nothing about the rich eh?





Mullins is the outlier here - he hasn't quit the UK or he intends to break UK electoral law when he runs for a councillor or London Mayor

 
city2 said:
I just wanna know when these cunts help the British people for a change, we have all suffered in this country and the only ones who haven’t are the incredibly rich people of this country
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Helped the junior doctors, train drivers, increased min wage, reformed workers rights bills, renters reform bill and a lot of other good stuff, won’t hear it though.
 
meltonblue said:
I’m not a Labour voter (well, aside from very recently where I voted for their candidate in the locals) but I don’t get this sentiment. They’ve implemented a few policies that target the rich. They’re a bit damned if they do damned if they don’t though as they either get pelters for it in most of the media and social media for it or people just seemingly ignore they’ve done anything at all.

The irony is people seem to be turning to a party that opposed any of those policies and would increase the disparity of wealth even further.
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You make a really interesting point, voting to push yourself further back, all for an ideaolgy.

What that ideology is, it seems like we are being told.
 
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meltonblue said:
Whatever it is, it’s not what people think it is. Unfortunately, it’s going to have to all play out before people realise it.
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Hopefully the implosion of Trump, should it happen, will start to make the people desperate for an authoritarian dictator type to be in charge here, think twice.

Probably not though.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Hopefully the implosion of Trump, should it happen, will start to make the people desperate for an authoritarian dictator type to be in charge here, think twice.

Probably not though.
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Maybe, the worry is it really should have happened already and yet reform got the votes they got in the locals and continue to grow.

In normal times any of their contributions in parliament in particular would have made them completely unelectable but I really don’t know what normal is now! All the rules have been thrown out the window.

I do think it’s a shame it’s happening now though as I do think quite a few of labours policies will bring dividends if they’re allowed the chance to, and that in usual times means giving them a two term government. We’re less than a year in and already they’re being judged like they’ve been in five years though, so I don’t fancy their chances.

Really do hate how vitriolic and partisan politics has become and I blame the internet massively for it. Trump being the best example.
 
Massive trade deals announced with India and the US, great news right ? … thought not, no one cares, ‘they’re all the same’ and ‘stop the boats’ is the mantra.
 
meltonblue said:
Maybe, the worry is it really should have happened already and yet reform got the votes they got in the locals and continue to grow.

In normal times any of their contributions in parliament in particular would have made them completely unelectable but I really don’t know what normal is now! All the rules have been thrown out the window.

I do think it’s a shame it’s happening now though as I do think quite a few of labours policies will bring dividends if they’re allowed the chance to, and that in usual times means giving them a two term government. We’re less than a year in and already they’re being judged like they’ve been in five years though, so I don’t fancy their chances.

Really do hate how vitriolic and partisan politics has become and I blame the internet massively for it. Trump being the best example.
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Yep the internet has really given full force to the Dinning- Kruger effect
 
Sky News understands US and UK have reached a trade agreement set to be announced later today.

Wonder if there’ll have to pay NI?
 
meltonblue said:
Maybe, the worry is it really should have happened already and yet reform got the votes they got in the locals and continue to grow.

In normal times any of their contributions in parliament in particular would have made them completely unelectable but I really don’t know what normal is now! All the rules have been thrown out the window.

I do think it’s a shame it’s happening now though as I do think quite a few of labours policies will bring dividends if they’re allowed the chance to, and that in usual times means giving them a two term government. We’re less than a year in and already they’re being judged like they’ve been in five years though, so I don’t fancy their chances.

Really do hate how vitriolic and partisan politics has become and I blame the internet massively for it. Trump being the best example.
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They are being judged daily like every other govt has been both fairly and unfairly on here since the inception of the cellar/off topic/politics sub forum.

They've only just got in/it's only been a few months/come on its only been a year/it may take at least two terms. Can kicking never afforded before to anyone, tis a bit hopeful and will not happen.
Everyone gets it on here without much balance, its a sad fight to protect one's own side the vast majority of the time. The need to find something, anything to sell their team( everyone loves the bombardment of X and biased newspaper articles, the fighting for something they fought against if it was done by the last lot)

Anyone is free to not get involved and pop back in a few years, one can even grandstand about it to try and impart sense on the rest of us(don't keep coming back though it makes one seem a tad desperate for attention)

The main problem with side taking in politics rather than say football is you cannot ever proclaim who won and get agreement. The powers that be and the electorate conspired against your side plotting in the shadows you see or they are all just more stupid than the enlightened ones. Everything becomes black and white.

Basically hypocrisy, deceit and spin is rife. We hate career politicians for those qualities which is the biggest hypocrisy of all.

Anyhow Labour are in charge so it is as it always has been and they will be the main target(reform being the get out card for this right wing version of Labour)

Walking away from it all is a valid and very logical decision tbh if someone can't see it for what it is, a game that never ends.
 
bluethrunthru said:
done nothing about the rich eh?





Mullins is the outlier here - he hasn't quit the UK or he intends to break UK electoral law when he runs for a councillor or London Mayor

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"Citizens of nowhere."

I don't think Theresa May meant the rich citizens who desert Britain rather than pay more tax.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Sky News understands US and UK have reached a trade agreement set to be announced later today.

Wonder if there’ll have to pay NI?
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I wouldn't get excited. Given the speed that they've done this deal this will probably be an optics trade deal rather than a tangible one given the president and PM both could use a 'visible' win on their economies.

It'll be a reciprocal reduction on a few things which are probably just going back to how they were 3 months ago so nobody is going to notice anything.

The real tangible things that would really help us are subject to reverse demands from the US such as big pharma and food but they're likely to be off the table. There's a good reason why these things take years to negotiate.
 
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