Bluesince1979
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Think you need to stop thinking that people are moaning and worried about ONLY yesterdays game. Our slow plodding style is two years in the making
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With the Bournemouth game coming so soon after the cup final, there’s no telling what shape our players will be in hence yesterday was a vitally important game and an opportunity to give us a bit of breathing space, instead there’s a good chance we will be down to seventh in the table by kick off next Tuesday. The team selection was an abomination and Guardiola must have known that, I get the impression he was challenging the players who had let us down so many times to finally prove him wrong, he wasn’t proved wrong. This season can’t end soon enough.
Millwallawayveteran1988
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Bringing Marmoush on so late in the game was the most annoying thing of the whole annoying game.If the manager wants to leave next season, it may be more beneficial for him to go end of this season rather than later. Do wonder if the lack of jeopardy in his job is partially why he makes such selections. Any other manager on a winning run who makes changes and then loses would be under scrutiny.
The most frustrating part was that when Kovacic made way for Marmoush, the shots started to roll in. 20-30 minutes earlier, the game may have ended differently.
Southampton were never going to score and didn’t even try.
There should have been 2 subs at half time. Doku was fine but for me Nunes should have come on for Lewis too.
Marmoush should have been on at 60 mins not 85!
Why did you mention his marriage?Mostly Pep, by far. He stopped, by his own admission, the beginning of a squad overhaul last summer, despite the lack of any semblance of an offseason for players to recover fully from last season. He has presided over a breakdown in the pressing game, a massive vacuum in central midfield, and a complete unraveling of the backline's discipline in defending (while continuing to insist on an insanely high line). He has sat passively on the bench as results were frittered away in the late stages, not even bothering to use most of his subsitutions with viable options on the bench with fresh legs. As the squad collapsed, along with his marriage, we have seen him engage in troubling incidents of self-harm for the entire world to witness.
He got most of the reinforcements he finally insisted on in January. After a calamitous first five minutes, Khusanov turned into our best defender and was then banished into oblivion, along with Gonzales, who had overcome some stumbles to seemingly transform our midfield into a zone of competence again. He has left Grealish and Doku on the bench for extended periods when they were fit and had played well enough to suggest that they were ready for more minutes to make consistent contributions. With all the horrible problems we had with control in the midfield for most of the season, he left a frustrated Grealish nailed to the bench. Control is what Jack does, and unfortunately, sometimes that's all he does, but why not use him to best effect when you're desperate for it instead of running the aging Gundogan and Kovacic into the ground? Pep has exacerbated most of the problems created by the incredible run of injuries this season.
Pep simply must find a new system which will bring Haaland into the action. He's being mostly wasted the way he's utilized and I can't even imagine his level of frustration. Then again, his finishing has regressed badly since his debut season for us, but maybe if he got to touch the ball every now and then it might improve.
I still believe in Pep and trust that he will incorporate new players and wave his magic wand again next season. If he doesn't, it will be time to move into a new era.
Fuck all to do with the squad, games we play etc
AirbagsOptionalTheReturn
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Shhh you can’t make sensible comments, you have to post entitled shit nowadays!Yes, it was disappointing, but how are City supposed to play fast attacking football against a team with eleven players, in and around their own area?
But in truth, yes they had 11 behind the ball at all times so it was hard to break them down and as others have said we played way too slow, which has been an issue for over a season and a half. Pep needs to tweak it and play faster and stop playing the players who are too slow (including KDB).
And 3 huge wages to go with it, who the hell signs off these contracts?To sit alongside Nunes and Phillip's. Phillip's will hopefully be gone and Nunes won't get many games if a new right back arrives. So just a measly 150m quid spunked up the wall on 3 bang average looking players
For average PL players, deals that the rags apart no other PL club would give them even 50% of what we do.
Utter madness, Kalvin Phillips 150K a week over 6 years, really? That is scandalous dereliction of how to run an elite club.
heslops barnet
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Just a number but for me he gets in the team……We paid £100 million for Jack, it doesn't mean he's worth £100 million.
heslops barnet
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Any other business you’d be up the road……And 3 huge wages to go with it, who the hell signs off these contracts?
For average PL players, deals that the rags apart no other PL club would give them even 50% of what we do.
Utter madness, Kalvin Phillips 150K a week over 6 years, really? That is scandalous dereliction of how to run an elite club.
Apparently we battered them and had 26 shots!I watched the second half on a stream and thought we were crap and totally bereft of any ideas or plan of how to create a chance, never mind actually put a foot through the ball and score a goal
As a supposed top side, we are miles away
Our players in training and warm-up practice these fast passing rondos. Why aren't they implementing this around the opposition penalty area when they have a low block?
No, instead we ponderously plod the ball in a fucking horse shoe, gifting our opponents lots and lots of time to reset
That is of course if KDB isn't smashing hugely over hit losses, or as is becoming even more frequent, under hit that don't get past the first man
I love Bernardo, but fuck me, he's been terrible out wide for two years and offers nothing. Why does Pep persist?
However, our utter stupidity was summed up when a cross actually made it into the six yard area where O'Reilly missed the ball and Savinho was in the same line instead of being a yard behind.
Sometimes they are so fucking thick!
I wonder as a 62 year old bloke on a waiting list for a new knee if I could do any better
Some people are blinded by stats.
Everything was half arsed and we didn't really look like scoring.
Fucking disaster the week before a Cup Final, then we have 2 tough games during the following week.
Lovebitesandeveryfing
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Foden has been awful all season. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a player drop off from one season to the next like he has.
Awful? I think you're ramping it up a bit there. He's been anonymous. He's been mediocre. He's never stamped his authority on any game that I've seen this season. That being the case, it is astonishing that Pep has given him the minutes, over and over and over again, to prove to him and us that we're all mistaken. Jack, who as far as I've seen, has not actually played worse than his mate (and has actually played some downright good games, Chelsea being a case in point), has been completely frozen out.
A player of Foden's ability will come back. I don't have a lot of doubt about it. You don't get voted player of the season by your peers for no reason. They see you on the pitch, they remember the miseries you put them through. I remember clearly that Hazard had a dog of a season immediately after Chelsea were champions (it was actually the season that got Mourinho definitively sacked by Abramovic). He came back and reaffirmed his excellence, once Mourinho was gone.
But at this point in time Phil is just doing nothing to be in starting lineups. He was part of that decidedly odd starting line-up yesterday. But that's Pep's choice, not Phil's.
Disagree with KDB, he looks what he is, a broken, old once great player living on memories.True
Arsenal and Liverpool score three yesterday without breaking sweat
We’re a team full of cowards at the moment
We pass sideways because only Kev has any balls
The only player who for me shows desire, enthusiasm and always looks to get forward is Marmoush and he gets dropped, WTF.
heslops barnet
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There was a time when we could……Yes, it was disappointing, but how are City supposed to play fast attacking football against a team with eleven players, in and around their own area?
Stats that are killing the game, my eyes were bored to death with that 97 minutes yesterday, the Marmoush effort apart we never looked remotely like scoring, embarrassing.Apparently we battered them and had 26 shots!
Some people are blinded by stats.
Everything was half arsed and we didn't really look like scoring.
Fucking disaster the week before a Cup Final, then we have 2 tough games during the following week.
Bluesince1979
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Of course it has something to do with itWhy did you mention his marriage?
Fuck all to do with the squad, games we play etc
What a silly thing to say
heslops barnet
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Marmoush should have started……Bringing Marmoush on so late in the game was the most annoying thing of the whole annoying game.
Southampton were never going to score and didn’t even try.
There should have been 2 subs at half time. Doku was fine but for me Nunes should have come on for Lewis too.
Marmoush should have been on at 60 mins not 85!
Then the club have to say sort out your shit and quickly or we have to move on.Of course it has something to do with it
What a silly thing to say
Is Pep become bigger than the club?
Kills me to say it, but i honestly think khaldoon and Viana need a sit down with Pep now.
Its not knee jerk because of yesterday, or this season full stop. Signs were VERY much there last season as we limped over the line then collapsed in the cup final, which was a fuck you to the fans IMO.
It was the right time for tixi to go, he hasnt made a decent signing in a ling time now. Gvardiol the last one? And before that?
We have a shiny new, young DOF now and he should be thinking of the next shiny new coach to work with.
Pep has had no clue of his best starting 11 all year. Every team sheet is a guessing game. Tactics are all over the shop. Take yesterday, who saw us playing a team like that? His team selections are erratic. Players come in, do well, disappear. Players look shot but play every week.
Hes had trauma in his personal life. We saw the face scratching episode, not good man. The man needs a break.
Pep will go down as the best ever, and rightly so. Ive seen football being played that at times has blown my mind, head shaking at its beauty. But not any more, and not for 2 seasons.
All good things come to an end. The best coach in the world eventually becomes NOT the best coach in the world.
For me, its time.
Who to replace? Has to be Vinnie.
City owner and Khaldoon will back Pep to the hilt as they should for the next 2 seasons.. not great at the moment but I am looking forward to the club World Cup and how he will develop the squad for that and next season! I'm think next season he another settling the new players the team top 4 a cup win then the season after compete for the league..
Bluesince1979
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I agree by the way.Then the club have to say sort out your shit and quickly of we have to move on.
Is Pep become bigger than the club?
heslops barnet
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A welcome optimistic post…….City owner and Khaldoon will back Pep to the hilt as they should for the next 2 seasons.. not great at the moment but I am looking forward to the club World Cup and how he will develop the squad for that and next season! I'm think next season he another settling the new players the team top 4 a cup win then the season after compete for the league..
Sadly, he probably isn't good enough.He doesn’t get a game now. The most baffling signing since Kalvin- Phillips.
Worrying how many of our recent signings can not nail down a place.
About £200m to fill the bench when we have an ageing and underperforming team on the pitch!
Recruitment has regressed after a good few years of high standards.