Referees’ Performances | 2024/2025

You can look at it like this sometimes incidents happen and they sometimes get overlooked,handball,pen incidents,bad tackles,yes it can happen but is it just a coincidence that City seem to be on the end of these controversial incidents.The keeper should have been off but as mentioned it’s a cup final and they didn’t want to spoil the occasion so by that the rules weren’t applied correctly,in fact weren’t applied at all,clear and organised corruption..
 
RiversideBlue said:
Take the rose tinted glasses off fella. Rodder's hand ball was as blatant as the red card should have been yesterday.
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The rules in play that season, and that season only, stated that if the ball hit the players arm around the "t-shirt line" it wasn't to be given as handball. As the VAR check couldn't show evidence it didn't hit anywhere other than this area the referees on-field decision stood.
Any season before or after and that's a deliberate handball but according to the laws and guidance that season it was correctly not given.
Play had also stopped for offside so even if Rodri had done a Henderson and palmed it away it couldn't have been given.
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waspish said:
What frustrates me is pep has a opportunity to lay into the referees every pre match post match press conference to the media and if you don't make a big big deal out of corrupt bias decisions like that the likes of web is as happy as Larry!
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And receive a guaranteed touch line ban.
 
TonyColemansbagofapples said:
And receive a guaranteed touch line ban.
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Pep should come out and point out the facts he can only be in trouble if he doubts the official’s integrity He has every right to give his opinion on the d decision he could also so the same ref made an outrageously bad decision against us a few years ago
 
I don't know if it is because of how annoyed at City I am but I am quite surprised at how everyone thinks the refs and officials done us over. Obviously the handball is clear as day, 100% and there is no excusing it. The ref and linesman missed it, it is then VAR that has screwed us on that. VAR disallowed a goal for them and the ref also gave a penalty to us. A soft pen but had he not given it then VAR would not have overturned it because of the threshold. The question then is, why would the ref give it in real time if they are going out their way to do us over? None of it make any sense. He didn't manage the time wasting well but still added 10 minutes injury time. If he was trying to do us over why would you add that? There was a blue behind me begging for 5 minutes before the board went up, 10! and rightly so. He obviously was instructed to try not to give cards out where possible, so the time wasting happened but he rectified it by adding the correct amount of added time.

I think he let stuff go for both teams yesterday, Palace fans weren't happy with a number of decisions and strong tackles from us at times. Going back to the original point though, the handball was a disgrace and on VAR
 
feedmpenzaandhewillscore said:
If he handles it or not it doesn’t make a difference, there was an off side before hand which led io the correct decision.
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Are we sure? This is what the Oracle, Dale Johnson, says about it:

"In February, Frank Lampard's side were denied a penalty by the VAR, Chris Kavanagh, for a Rodri handball. The score was 1-0 to Manchester City late in the game, meaning Everton were denied the chance to claim a point from the penalty spot. Kavanagh decided other available angles made the evidence inconclusive, but it led to PGMOL, the body that controls refereeing in the Premier League, apologising to Everton for the mistake."
 
thegoatsthegoat said:
I don't know if it is because of how annoyed at City I am but I am quite surprised at how everyone thinks the refs and officials done us over. Obviously the handball is clear as day, 100% and there is no excusing it. The ref and linesman missed it, it is then VAR that has screwed us on that. VAR disallowed a goal for them and the ref also gave a penalty to us. A soft pen but had he not given it then VAR would not have overturned it because of the threshold. The question then is, why would the ref give it in real time if they are going out their way to do us over? None of it make any sense. He didn't manage the time wasting well but still added 10 minutes injury time. If he was trying to do us over why would you add that? There was a blue behind me begging for 5 minutes before the board went up, 10! and rightly so. He obviously was instructed to try not to give cards out where possible, so the time wasting happened but he rectified it by adding the correct amount of added time.

I think he let stuff go for both teams yesterday, Palace fans weren't happy with a number of decisions and strong tackles from us at times. Going back to the original point though, the handball was a disgrace and on VAR
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I don’t think everyone thinks they deliberately did us over. A fair few do, but others just see it as a lack of competence.
 
halfcenturyup said:
Are we sure? This is what the Oracle, Dale Johnson, says about it:

"In February, Frank Lampard's side were denied a penalty by the VAR, Chris Kavanagh, for a Rodri handball. The score was 1-0 to Manchester City late in the game, meaning Everton were denied the chance to claim a point from the penalty spot. Kavanagh decided other available angles made the evidence inconclusive, but it led to PGMOL, the body that controls refereeing in the Premier League, apologising to Everton for the mistake."
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As handball wasn't given, they didn't go back to the earlier potential offside to check it.
Play stopped for an offside (I think) very soon after the 'handball'.
 
thegoatsthegoat said:
I don't know if it is because of how annoyed at City I am but I am quite surprised at how everyone thinks the refs and officials done us over. Obviously the handball is clear as day, 100% and there is no excusing it. The ref and linesman missed it, it is then VAR that has screwed us on that. VAR disallowed a goal for them and the ref also gave a penalty to us. A soft pen but had he not given it then VAR would not have overturned it because of the threshold. The question then is, why would the ref give it in real time if they are going out their way to do us over? None of it make any sense. He didn't manage the time wasting well but still added 10 minutes injury time. If he was trying to do us over why would you add that? There was a blue behind me begging for 5 minutes before the board went up, 10! and rightly so. He obviously was instructed to try not to give cards out where possible, so the time wasting happened but he rectified it by adding the correct amount of added time.

I think he let stuff go for both teams yesterday, Palace fans weren't happy with a number of decisions and strong tackles from us at times. Going back to the original point though, the handball was a disgrace and on VAR
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Agree with you that he wasn't deliberately trying to screw us over. I cant blame him for not seeing the handball, I didn't see it either tbh.

I partly blame the linesman for being too far behind the action and VAR, of course, for coming to completely the wrong conclusion. Incidentally, the game got a bit tetchy after the Henderson incident. It's how referees lose control of games.

The penalty you are right. I didn't think it was a penalty tbh (Silva started falling before any contact is how I saw it on a dodgy stream) but if it wasn't given onfield then VAR wouldn't have corrected, imho. Just protocol I suppose with maybe a shade of levelling up for their earlier mistake.

The offside for their second "goal" was obvious, I think. They couldn't have allowed that to stand. Not sure why it took so long.

I just don't think he is a very good referee and VAR didn't cover themselves in glory.

Btw, on losing control of the game, you could see a sense of injustice with timewasting leading to a few niggly City fouls later on. Credit to Palace for just getting on with it, or it could have turned nasty. Again, not refereeing properly can lead to some tricky stuff. What is worse for a flagship match? Applying the LOtG and having 10v11 and a few bookings for timewasting, or having two teams kicking lumps out of each other at the end?
 
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