Crystal Palace (N) | FA Cup Final | Post Match Thread

People have mentioned that Alvarez should not have been sold. He wanted out because he was not a guaranteed starter. The reason being that he frequently lost possession which is a capital offence in any Pep team. That must have impacted upon other members of the side hence the continual passing backwards as opposed to taking a risk. If you recall the same treatment was given to Sane.
 
You must be fucking joking..soft as fuck .. perfect height for the keeper and nowhere near the corner..
Fuck me I have a fucked up knee replacement and I could hit the ball harder than that and with more precision..
If you think that was almost perfect then you must be fucking drugged up
we gotta agree to disagree then
 
What the fuck are you on drugs? It was almost perfectly in the corner with plenty of power
You must be fucking joking..soft as fuck .. perfect height for the keeper and nowhere near the corner..
Fuck me I have a fucked up knee replacement and I could hit the ball harder than that and with more precision..
If you think that was almost perfect then you must be fucking
so Grealish's averageness is on Pep who has won everywhere he has been and managed the very best players in the world including with us and got great consistent performances out of players and improved the likes of David Silva, Aguero etc ....where nearly every player who has been managed by him (including Henry) has said that he makes them see football differently and improved their understanding of the game - yeah ok!

Im not slagging him as a person...probably a decent bloke - but as a player he has been overhyped from the start by our own fans and the media (and weirdly even by some opposition fans)

Not down on him at all - just calling out the bullshit that surrounds him about how supposedly good he is - and he aint
Mate from day 1 you have had a go at him..it's tedious..
Lots of players are over hyped by fans and media alike..
I think he's been decent but not fantastic but he's nowhere near as bad as you constantly make out..
I found it weird that Pep signed him yet doesn't play him central and let him play his own game..yeah Pep has improved lots of players but not every signing works out for him.
 
I know it's been done to death,but I still can't get over ,not only the incompetence of the ref ,who obviously got swept along with the occasion, and the desire for the underdog to come good,but VAR now trying to come up with some convoluted reasoning to justify their incompetence.
Whilst many other fans are revelling in our discomfort, they should just consider how our game is being mismanaged.
 
Notwithstanding, the issue is did the keeper handle the ball outside the box?
I believe that he did, so at the very least City should have had a free kick.
How would that free kick be awarded? The ref and lino missed it and VAR can't award a free kick without the red card for the keeper for a DOGSO.
 
What the fuck are you on drugs? It was almost perfectly in the corner with plenty of power
If you think that's a decent penalty, you're deluded. Henderson saves it about a metre inside the post and at the perfect height for any diving keeper. I'd expect any professional keeper to save that if they picked the right direction and they'd be criticised for letting it in if they did go that way
 
All those opinions,fine. I disagree, but they are yours and you are entitled to them.

But you have never seen a drop off of this magnitude before? Fucking really?

There are too many to even begin listing, and we are nowhere near them.

We lost a final. But we DID reach a final ffs. We did not win the league, but we are still in amongs the top and not below mid table.

Something previous dropoffs have not managed


once upon a time there was the grand daddy of all drop offs. and it was city.

as we all know, in 1937-38 City became only team to be relegated the season after winning the league.

Hilariously we were relegated as top scorers in the league.

now that was a drop off

only City.
 
once upon a time there was the grand daddy of all drop offs. and it was city.

as we all know, in 1937-38 City became only team to be relegated the season after winning the league.

Hilariously we were relegated as top scorers in the league.

now that was a drop off

only City.
seasons not over yet.
maybe 115/116 will come out before
and its div 3.
that would be a drop off.
;-)
 
How would that free kick be awarded? The ref and lino missed it and VAR can't award a free kick without the red card for the keeper for a DOGSO.
You are correct, the free kick should have been awarded before var got involved.
However, to my mind, the ref made a clear and obvs error in the first place so should have been called to have a look at the monitor at that point.
The use of VAR needs to be examined and rectified to prevent this in the future.
 
People have mentioned that Alvarez should not have been sold. He wanted out because he was not a guaranteed starter. The reason being that he frequently lost possession which is a capital offence in any Pep team. That must have impacted upon other members of the side hence the continual passing backwards as opposed to taking a risk. If you recall the same treatment was given to Sane.

Not quite. Sane's issue was his work rate. He was lazy and didn't track back. That was his downfall.

There was no problem with Alvarez work rate.

As i remember it anyhow.
 
I know it's been done to death,but I still can't get over ,not only the incompetence of the ref ,who obviously got swept along with the occasion, and the desire for the underdog to come good,but VAR now trying to come up with some convoluted reasoning to justify their incompetence.
Whilst many other fans are revelling in our discomfort, they should just consider how our game is being mismanaged.
I'm not sure how much incompetence came into the entire officials team decision. They are professionals and it was clear what happened and what should have resulted. Make no mistake about it, the decision was made so as to keep the game on an even footing
 
You are correct, the free kick should have been awarded before var got involved.
However, to my mind, the ref made a clear and obvs error in the first place so should have been called to have a look at the monitor at that point.
The use of VAR needs to be examined and rectified to prevent this in the future.
That’s the bit that is wrong about it. If the ref didn’t see it then surely the protocol should be for him to have a look at it and be asked the question. “If you had seen this, what would you have given”
 
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There's some right entitled twats in all fanbases. I didnt think it would be the same with City given our history and seeing united be that.
It's a funny old thing, Entitlement. It hides a flurry of different background noises. You are correct in assuming that some fans expect the earth and will be upset when we don't take the moon as well (figuratively speaking).
But a lot of critical fan opinion will also be echoed in the corridors of power at the club.
Fans' high expectations, I hazard, are actually lower than the managers, players, and owners.
You want entitlement running your football club because anything less than perfect should be ripped away and chucked in the bin.
Don't slate the fans for aiming as high as the club do.
And don't round on the fans who are deeply disappointed that the plan isn't going to plan.
 
You are correct, the free kick should have been awarded before var got involved.
However, to my mind, the ref made a clear and obvs error in the first place so should have been called to have a look at the monitor at that point.
The use of VAR needs to be examined and rectified to prevent this in the future.
Would then mean every missed free kick was given? Games would last about 4 hours.

They had to decide if it was a DNGSO and, incorrectly, decided it wasn't. Once that decision is made there's nothing else to be done, regardless of if the ref or assistant had seen it it would have been a free kick and yellow at minimum
 
It's a funny old thing, Entitlement. It hides a flurry of different background noises. You are correct in assuming that some fans expect the earth and will be upset when we don't take the moon as well (figuratively speaking).
But a lot of critical fan opinion will also be echoed in the corridors of power at the club.
Fans' high expectations, I hazard, are actually lower than the managers, players, and owners.
You want entitlement running your football club because anything less than perfect should be ripped away and chucked in the bin.
Don't slate the fans for aiming as high as the club do.
And don't round on the fans who are deeply disappointed that the plan isn't going to plan.

of course City fans have high expectations, we have witnessed the greatest club side this country has ever produced, winning the one and only purist treble 24 months ago, we have Pep the most sought after manager on the planet, the worlds best owners, and we are charged accordingly, the notion we should not be frustrated or expect more is stupid. The one thing i want more than anything from this season is our talisman back fit and good to go, the loss of Rodri against Arsenal effectively derailed our season and apart from a few blips of recovery we are still miles off what we were.
 

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