Crystal Palace (N) | FA Cup Final | Post Match Thread

ancoats said:
O I said last night, the more you watch it, the worse it feels.

We have to let it go, Yes, it's a hard and bitter pill to swallow because it definitely 100% would have changed the game if they sent him off,
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Don’t see why we should let it go also Sue Rooney for libel after his comments yesterday fucking rag Scouse wanker
 
ancoats said:
You know what, that's a good shout. He's the captain and should be stepping up if Haaland didn't fancy it
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He is generally shit at pens too.

I wonder how much thought we actually put into the scenario of getting a pen in a game.

Have we looked at the pens Henderson has faced? Which side does he prefer / which penalties tend to beat him?

Henderson has saved 41% of the pens he has faced. That is a really high percentage so did we do the homework on this given that the game could have gone to pens?
 
Sending off missed
Penalty wasn’t a penalty.
Both teams benefitted from poor decisions.

Keeper who shouldn’t have been there played a blinder and won them the cup

Well done Palace

Crap officiating has always been been there and is still there with or without VAR. Tine to do away with VAR and give control back to the guy in the middle. VAR adds nothing to the game except a pathway to facilitate corruption.
 
I watched the game with my son who is not a City supporter and had not really seen them this year. He said: “Why do they take so long?” Quite.
 
Father Paul said:
Yes it is not the poor season itself but rather the emerging sense of a lack of direction from the manager and the feeling that a succession of poor or average transfers seem to be derailing the project. But perhaps that is inevitable or otherwise the rags and dippers before them would have continued on endlessly winning leagues. Maybe we have reached the end of an era. Our job is to ensure it does not give rise to another 30 plus year famine.
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I think there's something to this. I'm optimistic and think Pep will come back furious and fighting next season, but it's 2 seasons where it feels like we have drifted, got lucky last year in the league, and have got major decisions in the market/squad wrong while we assumed Pep would leave. It makes me want to choke on my own vomit, but it feels closer to United in 2001 than United in 2013. But Pep needs to build another great team now with a completely different philosophy. No tinkering.
 
burning blue soul said:
Looks like your expectations are not in line with the owner's, player's, or the manager's
You comfort yourself in Mediocrity. I'll let the owners know, in my own small way, that the results are unacceptable.
Cheers.
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Cool. It is true, I lack ambition.
 
york away to this! said:
Your son, who is not a city supporter?
Shit parenting trophy goes to...
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Actually, fine parenting. At the time I could not afford to travel to M/cr with him and he wished to go to Leeds with his mates. So I made the ultimate sacrifice.
It would have made excellent banter except Dirty Leeds have been so shite for many years.
 
paulchapo said:
I know Attwell wasn't on var but that's two very dodgy decisions he's been involved in regarding ourselves. One could have cost us the title and yesterday's contributed greatly to us losing the game. It was an inexplicable decision from the officials.
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I totally agree with you PC. That game v Brighton April 21 when we had already won the league was diabolical. I know many on here don't subscribe to conspiracy theories etc put about by the footballisfuxed blog bloke but over the years he made so very enlightening posts about this ref, plus the guy on Var yesterday and their alleged links to SE Asian betting cartels. Remember that 0-0 v Palace New Year Eve 2018 when we were on fire. Apparently that 'resukt' was known in the betting markets beforehand. When we were playing well, the ref bias against us we coped with - remember Peps ' we did it alone' ( I think he was alluding to all the help Dips got), however now we are toothless their decisions and actions have a real impact. Not sending Henderson off and the delay in the pk being taken being the latest two in a long line of anti City examples.
 
Bluemoonadam said:
Let it go pal, we had a penalty that wasn't one.
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If that defender got a touch on the ball it was hardly at all and that wanker Dixon kept crying that he touched it. He still took Bernie out when he didn’t need to make a tackle and I didn’t see Palace players complaining too much
 
Grassland Blue said:
I am not suggesting that every potential free kick should go to var (but even if the missed ones did I don't think that the game would last for 4 hours!), however the one yesterday was definitely clear and obvs and should have been subject to a sanction.
The moment in the game was important.
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If they deemed it not a penalty or a red, it would have been a free kick outside the area resulting in a yellow. So which missed free kicks go to VAR? Only anything which could be a yellow, anything within say 40yds of goal which could lead to a goal scoring chance?

There's nothing wrong with the use of VAR as it is, just it's implementation which is done in secret and whereby they decided that yesterday wasn't a goal scoring opportunity
 
we had 6 FA finals since takeover, Stoke, Wigan, Watford, rags, rags, Palace

to win only 3x of these is poor return given that these rags are miles away from Ferguson era and last season was their worst domestic season in 30 years or so until this season, while Wigan relegated in that season, and Palace are a simple mid table side with 2 decent players...
 
Grassland Blue said:
I am not suggesting that every potential free kick should go to var (but even if the missed ones did I don't think that the game would last for 4 hours!), however the one yesterday was definitely clear and obvs and should have been subject to a sanction.
The moment in the game was important.
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Re. your last sentence.. agree completely.

Like every other Blue in the stadium yesterday, I and my family/friends sitting in block 506 clearly couldn't see definitively what had gone with the Haaland/Henderson incident. However, by half-time access to the Internet showed us clearly what had happened and what a complete f*ck up of a decision that was by the officials and the VAR people.

As for some of the media's initial response (led by that gobsh*te Shearer) together with the so-called 'explanation' about what and how the officials/VAR arrived at their decision (that there was doubt about 'denying a goal scoring opportunity'), well all I can say to that load of claptrap is that they may as well have come out with something like 'Well, aliens from the Planet Tharg in the Galaxy of Questron might've landed at that very moment, rendering the Cup Final unnecessary, along with all other forms of life on Earth..' and it would have made equal 'sense' as what they've said since..

I know we didn't perform as we should and I accept that we screwed up several chances to score.

But as you suggest, that decision, that one moment was pivotal in how the game panned out.

And it wasn't even arrived at with any regard to the Laws of the Game. A free-kick should have been awarded, with at least a booking having also been administered, although I'd argue a red card for Henderson should have been applied. And that really would have changed the whole dynamic of the game for the next hour or so..
 
69FACUPfinal said:
I totally agree with you PC. That game v Brighton April 21 when we had already won the league was diabolical. I know many on here don't subscribe to conspiracy theories etc put about by the footballisfuxed blog bloke but over the years he made so very enlightening posts about this ref, plus the guy on Var yesterday and their alleged links to SE Asian betting cartels. Remember that 0-0 v Palace New Year Eve 2018 when we were on fire. Apparently that 'resukt' was known in the betting markets beforehand. When we were playing well, the ref bias against us we coped with - remember Peps ' we did it alone' ( I think he was alluding to all the help Dips got), however now we are toothless their decisions and actions have a real impact. Not sending Henderson off and the delay in the pk being taken being the latest two in a long line of anti City examples.
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There's definitely something amiss.
 
Damanino said:
we had 6 FA finals since takeover, Stoke, Wigan, Watford, rags, rags, Palace

to win only 3x of these is poor return given that these rags are miles away from Ferguson era and last season was their worst domestic season in 30 years or so until this season, while Wigan relegated in that season, and Palace are a simple mid table side with 2 decent players...
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Yes, there's caveats for all of them but 3/6 is bad really. 4/6 changes everything. I'd swap last year and gladly get beat to Palace this year.
 
Damanino said:
we had 6 FA finals since takeover, Stoke, Wigan, Watford, rags, rags, Palace

to win only 3x of these is poor return given that these rags are miles away from Ferguson era and last season was their worst domestic season in 30 years or so until this season, while Wigan relegated in that season, and Palace are a simple mid table side with 2 decent players...
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And that is the history of the FA Cup
Shocks
Did Wimbledon win
Bob Stokoe?
It’s goes on
 
KS55 said:
Actually, fine parenting. At the time I could not afford to travel to M/cr with him and he wished to go to Leeds with his mates. So I made the ultimate sacrifice.
It would have made excellent banter except Dirty Leeds have been so shite for many years.
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I used to crawl on my hands and knees with the chaps on my back in papooses to the match when they were tiny. Spent much of the match in the toilet changing nappies, though whatever the adversity they were going to grow up blues.
It's not too late to disown your Leeds-supporting offspring and beg the great unwashed of bluemoon for forgiveness...
 
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