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BlueHammer85 said:
If you strongly stick up for Reform just know that pretty much every few days a Reform candidate/counciler/MP will have made a racist remark/tweet etc and it will be like that forever - that alone should strongly put you off siding with this party, if it doesn’t then you have to look in the mirror.
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Not a great argument. Unfortunately, a significant majority of the British population in my experience are racist bigots.
 
tweety said:
Ask Hampshire blue for some kleenex and fuck off
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Oh we are touchy aren't we? All I asked for was in what way you thought the country would be better off. Pretty straightforward really. May be the Kleenex should be for the likes of you that didn't get what you think you were voting for. Wanking over Nigel or crying over being poorer-you choose how you use them. And remember to save some for Big Joe.
 
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hampshireblue said:
Oh we are touchy aren't we? All I asked for was in what way you thought the country would be better off. Pretty straightforward really. May be the Kleenex should be for the likes of you that didn't get what you think you were voting for. Wanking over Nigel or crying over being poorer-you choose how you use them. And remember to save some for Big Joe.
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You really are a fool... whats with the insults?

You continually tell me what I'm thinking when you haven't really a clue and now you think you know why I voted the way I did and that I'm regretting it.... well here's some news for you..... just like the majority of all you left wing brainwashed sheep who are willing to die at the alter of Starmer (though fuck knows why) you don't have the faintest idea about how and why I voted for Brexit and quite frankly it has absolutely nothing to do with you. Bit I'm glad I did and I'm glad we're out and because of your stubborn undemocratic unwillingness to accept a democratic vote I am enjoying seeing you all squirming, just because you didn't get your own way.

The main reason we are all poorer is because of the shit leaders of the main political parties and the pathetic that Starmer has taken in his first ten months.... decisions that he is now having to row back on because he is not the Billy Big Bollocks he thought he was,

It is a fact that you do not know how we might have fared had we stayed in, you can come up with any shit you want and you do, in fact that is one thing you do quite well, but it's all supposition and guess work. People on here continually tell us we are doing better than many other G7 nations (many inside the EU) which in itself is highly debatable... yet we are outside the EU.

Oh and I don't want or need kleenex because

1. Nigel doesn't do it for me in the same way Keir does it for you and
2. I'm not crying over being poorer, but I do feel for all the pensioners that were robbed of the WFA (though that may well be reversed) and
3. In the whole scheme of things I think we are better off being out of the shitshow that was the EU.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
You really are a fool... whats with the insults?

You continually tell me what I'm thinking when you haven't really a clue and now you think you know why I voted the way I did and that I'm regretting it.... well here's some news for you..... just like the majority of all you left wing brainwashed sheep who are willing to die at the alter of Starmer (though fuck knows why) you don't have the faintest idea about how and why I voted for Brexit and quite frankly it has absolutely nothing to do with you. Bit I'm glad I did and I'm glad we're out and because of your stubborn undemocratic unwillingness to accept a democratic vote I am enjoying seeing you all squirming, just because you didn't get your own way.

The main reason we are all poorer is because of the shit leaders of the main political parties and the pathetic that Starmer has taken in his first ten months.... decisions that he is now having to row back on because he is not the Billy Big Bollocks he thought he was,

It is a fact that you do not know how we might have fared had we stayed in, you can come up with any shit you want and you do, in fact that is one thing you do quite well, but it's all supposition and guess work. People on here continually tell us we are doing better than many other G7 nations (many inside the EU) which in itself is highly debatable... yet we are outside the EU.

Oh and I don't want or need kleenex because

1. Nigel doesn't do it for me in the same way Keir does it for you and
2. I'm not crying over being poorer, but I do feel for all the pensioners that were robbed of the WFA (though that may well be reversed) and
3. In the whole scheme of things I think we are better off being out of the shitshow that was the EU.
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You don't like insults and open with calling me a fool!

I'm no fan of Starmer as an individual and I have never claimed to be.

I have merely asked for examples from both you and "@tweety to show evidence the country is better off BECAUSE of Brexit. You both have failed to provide even one example.

" Bit I'm glad I did and I'm glad we're out and because of your stubborn undemocratic unwillingness to accept a democratic vote I am enjoying seeing you all squirming, just because you didn't get your own way."

Now this really is the height of nonsense. You are saying you are happy that the country is worse off to see people you don't even know be uncomfortable with a democratic vote!!!!! As I've said, I accept the result but am not prepared to see people like you moan about stuff on open forums without pointing out that you helped put us in the very mess you are carping on about.

Out of interest, how are you personally worse off by Labour actions? I'm not poorer by anything they have done policy wise, are you?

"you can come up with any shit you want and you do, in fact that is one thing you do quite well,-ouch, another insult!!!!!!!!!!

"It is a fact that you do not know how we might have fared had we stayed in, you can come up with any shit you want and you do, in fact that is one thing you do quite well, but it's all supposition and guess work. People on here continually tell us we are doing better than many other G7 nations (many inside the EU) which in itself is highly debatable... yet we are outside the EU."

Do you actually believe anything regarding statistics and financial forecasts? I bet if your Mrs tells you she's on her period, you probably tell her it's only an opinion.

Out of interest, again, what are your top 5 benefits of having left?

The really funny thing, is I'm in a hospital bed with nothing better to do on a warm Sunday afternoon, and you're on here because............????????? You know the saying "you really need to get out more"-well you do. Hwyl Fawr
 
It’s estimated that Wales was harder hit than England as exports reduced by approx 6% and they lost access to the EU Development fund. Farage and the Tories really did a job in Wales, let’s see if their people remember it.
 
cookster said:
Not a great argument. Unfortunately, a significant majority of the British population in my experience are racist bigots.
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Might be misremembering but reasonably sure more than one study has shown that close to 20% of British people are biologically racist i.e believe some races are biologically superior to others and around 40-50% believe more cultural stuff, I.e some races are harder working than others or more honest etc. I'd guess there's some regional concentrations and dilutions within that.
 
hampshireblue said:
You don't like insults and open with calling me a fool!

I'm no fan of Starmer as an individual and I have never claimed to be.

I have merely asked for examples from both you and "@tweety to show evidence the country is better off BECAUSE of Brexit. You both have failed to provide even one example.

" Bit I'm glad I did and I'm glad we're out and because of your stubborn undemocratic unwillingness to accept a democratic vote I am enjoying seeing you all squirming, just because you didn't get your own way."

Now this really is the height of nonsense. You are saying you are happy that the country is worse off to see people you don't even know be uncomfortable with a democratic vote!!!!! As I've said, I accept the result but am not prepared to see people like you moan about stuff on open forums without pointing out that you helped put us in the very mess you are carping on about.

Out of interest, how are you personally worse off by Labour actions? I'm not poorer by anything they have done policy wise, are you?

"you can come up with any shit you want and you do, in fact that is one thing you do quite well,-ouch, another insult!!!!!!!!!!

"It is a fact that you do not know how we might have fared had we stayed in, you can come up with any shit you want and you do, in fact that is one thing you do quite well, but it's all supposition and guess work. People on here continually tell us we are doing better than many other G7 nations (many inside the EU) which in itself is highly debatable... yet we are outside the EU."

Do you actually believe anything regarding statistics and financial forecasts? I bet if your Mrs tells you she's on her period, you probably tell her it's only an opinion.

Out of interest, again, what are your top 5 benefits of having left?

The really funny thing, is I'm in a hospital bed with nothing better to do on a warm Sunday afternoon, and you're on here because............????????? You know the saying "you really need to get out more"-well you do. Hwyl Fawr
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Your ancestors, some of whom may have given their lives in the two world wars against Germany would be spinning in their graves if they could read that.
It's all about money with you isn't it, in true Harry Enfield style, ' I'm considerably richer than you ', why not fuck off to Europe somewhere and leave the UK to the true patriots. I've said before the majority spoke, deal with it.
I'm British and have no wish to be a subject of the European Union. Maybe some of the other left wing cretins on here should consider moving as well as their love knows no bounds for the EU.
 
BigJoe#1 said:
You really are a fool... whats with the insults?

You continually tell me what I'm thinking when you haven't really a clue and now you think you know why I voted the way I did and that I'm regretting it.... well here's some news for you..... just like the majority of all you left wing brainwashed sheep who are willing to die at the alter of Starmer (though fuck knows why) you don't have the faintest idea about how and why I voted for Brexit and quite frankly it has absolutely nothing to do with you. Bit I'm glad I did and I'm glad we're out and because of your stubborn undemocratic unwillingness to accept a democratic vote I am enjoying seeing you all squirming, just because you didn't get your own way.

The main reason we are all poorer is because of the shit leaders of the main political parties and the pathetic that Starmer has taken in his first ten months.... decisions that he is now having to row back on because he is not the Billy Big Bollocks he thought he was,

It is a fact that you do not know how we might have fared had we stayed in, you can come up with any shit you want and you do, in fact that is one thing you do quite well, but it's all supposition and guess work. People on here continually tell us we are doing better than many other G7 nations (many inside the EU) which in itself is highly debatable... yet we are outside the EU.

Oh and I don't want or need kleenex because

1. Nigel doesn't do it for me in the same way Keir does it for you and
2. I'm not crying over being poorer, but I do feel for all the pensioners that were robbed of the WFA (though that may well be reversed) and
3. In the whole scheme of things I think we are better off being out of the shitshow that was the EU.
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I’m not poorer.
 
tweety said:
Your ancestors, some of whom may have given their lives in the two world wars against Germany would be spinning in their graves if they could read that.
It's all about money with you isn't it, in true Harry Enfield style, ' I'm considerably richer than you ', why not fuck off to Europe somewhere and leave the UK to the true patriots. I've said before the majority spoke, deal with it.
I'm British and have no wish to be a subject of the European Union. Maybe some of the other left wing cretins on here should consider moving as well as their love knows no bounds for the EU.
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Another saddo with nothing better to do on a warm sunny day. but also a very thought-provoking post where you have truly exposed your true colours.

No, it's not all about money. I'm not the one that harps on endlessly about it and how broke we are. I merely point out that we could be much better off if we hadn't gone down a road of self harm. Why would anyone be spinning in their grave when I ask for some REAL benefits to leaving. I gave you some examples of how the UK did as members and it was far away from us being ruled by Brussels but you chose not to address them-not surprisingly as it may reveal some uncomfortable truths.

So only the 52% are "true patriots"? A pretty damning view of your fellow countrymen. So you'd be happy to see the UK left to the RW-the very thing my ancestors fought to get rid of.

Voting to leave has left the country in a worse state both economically and around the structure of society and your post above just epitomises those divisions. It's not just immigrants you don't want here, you also have now stated that anyone who doesn't agree with your RW rhetoric should not be here either.

Maybe there is a time in the past you would like to go back to-does 1936 ring any bells?
 
tweety said:
Your ancestors, some of whom may have given their lives in the two world wars against Germany would be spinning in their graves if they could read that.
It's all about money with you isn't it, in true Harry Enfield style, ' I'm considerably richer than you ', why not fuck off to Europe somewhere and leave the UK to the true patriots. I've said before the majority spoke, deal with it.
I'm British and have no wish to be a subject of the European Union. Maybe some of the other left wing cretins on here should consider moving as well as their love knows no bounds for the EU.
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You could play BNP bingo with that post.
 
tweety said:
Your ancestors, some of whom may have given their lives in the two world wars against Germany would be spinning in their graves if they could read that.
It's all about money with you isn't it, in true Harry Enfield style, ' I'm considerably richer than you ', why not fuck off to Europe somewhere and leave the UK to the true patriots. I've said before the majority spoke, deal with it.
I'm British and have no wish to be a subject of the European Union. Maybe some of the other left wing cretins on here should consider moving as well as their love knows no bounds for the EU.
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Our ancestors fought for us to have freedom, incidentally, alongside many European friends and allies. I would point out the irony that we have less freedom post-Brexit, but given you're a former scientist I'm sure you'll recognise that irony yourself.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
It’s estimated that Wales was harder hit than England as exports reduced by approx 6% and they lost access to the EU Development fund. Farage and the Tories really did a job in Wales, let’s see if their people remember it.
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I can't find that video interview with a leave voter in Merthyr Tydfil asking what has the EU done for us - in front of a sign saying their new leisure centre was EU funded.
 
tweety said:
Your ancestors, some of whom may have given their lives in the two world wars against Germany would be spinning in their graves if they could read that.
It's all about money with you isn't it, in true Harry Enfield style, ' I'm considerably richer than you ', why not fuck off to Europe somewhere and leave the UK to the true patriots. I've said before the majority spoke, deal with it.
I'm British and have no wish to be a subject of the European Union. Maybe some of the other left wing cretins on here should consider moving as well as their love knows no bounds for the EU.
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Wow, that's a weird post.

Poster who thinks insults mean you've lost the argument calls people cretins and thinks people who fought fascism would now be voting for fascists.

And tells people to f off to Europe having made it harder to do that.
 
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