I agree that there are obvious benefits to the ubiquitous presence of filming devices, and certainly something Orwell didn’t anticipate when he predicted a surveillance society, but there are also many, many downsides to it. The genie’s out of the bottle now though, for better or worse.I think the one positive of so many filming it is that it gives the police a better idea of what happened. Uploading it to social media isn’t the right thing to do though - hand it over to the police FFS!
It might not be straightforward, but it’s the responsibility of the authorities to sort it when there are hundreds of thousands of people on the streets. Whilst this might not have been a terrorist, it could very well have been and this was preventable.
NO ONE HAS JUSTIFIED ANYTHING INCLUDING THE USE OF CAPLOCKS!@!!!@!@!@
No excuse for that drivers actions at all.
Yes there were a few low life's banging his car.
Hope that dickhead driver gets a very long jail sentence.
No excuse for that drivers actions at all.
Yes there were a few low life's banging his car.
Hope that dickhead driver gets a very long jail sentence.
That’s simply not correct. Christmas markets are an example of areas within city centres that are managed over several weeks with terrorism related traffic management contingencies front and centre.You may aswell close down every public event, unless you lay miles and miles of concrete bollards anyone can get in a car and plough into a crowd of people sadly.
Still pisses me off that nobody was held to account for our bus being attacked.We were stuck in a riot in France once, dog in car, tear gas, pile of tyres on fire, crowds all round the car, terrifying. Just saying … City players in that coach entering Anfield would know how it feels.
For as long as I can remember, Liverpool have done parades like that - starting in the suburbs and heading into the city centre. Indeed, I remember a Liverpool fan online once and instead of indulging in the usual childish banter about parade numbers, he said he couldn’t understand why City don’t do something similar rather than confining it to a much smaller route in the city centre.Struck me as a bit over the top the length of the parade route. City never do that when we have a parade, which makes it far more easy for the police to control the crowds and for barriers to be erected.
That’s simply not correct. Christmas markets are an example of areas within city centres that are managed over several weeks with terrorism related traffic management contingencies front and centre.
You appear to be labouring under the misapprehension that enforcing the closure of all car parks (and car parking) within a certain radius is an especially complicated undertaking. It should be front and centre for any planning into an event like this. It’s kindergarten stuff.
I was under the understanding that this road had been closed off for the parade so how he managed to drive down it is surely a major factorThat’s simply not correct. Christmas markets are an example of areas within city centres that are managed over several weeks with terrorism related traffic management contingencies front and centre.
You appear to be labouring under the misapprehension that enforcing the closure of all car parks (and car parking) within a certain radius is an especially complicated undertaking. It should be front and centre for any planning into an event like this. It’s kindergarten stuff.
''....slowly sending us all quite mad''....so very true - western world eating themselves..self inflicted madnessWithout commenting on the motivations of the driver, the whole episode reflects very poorly on modern life.
Firstly, whilst security around events like this has been rendered absolutely necessary because cars have been weaponised in recent years, there wouldn’t have been anything like the steps required yesterday in place at United’s parade in 1999, which was a much more innocent time - and notably before 9/11.
Then there’s the reaction of the people on the street to the car. Some of it justifiable and understandable given the horrific weaponisation of motor vehicles at public events in recent years, but some of it sadly representative of a more angry and violent society.
And then there’s dozens of people filming it and uploading it to various platforms. I fear social media and the tentacles of technology are slowly sending us all quite mad.
but has nothing to do with this tragic incidentStill pisses me off that nobody was held to account for our bus being attacked.
Solution?? Maybe not move and nudge people with your car?? Wait out till the crowd disperse then safely move your car when people are totally out of the way? Look anymore i say about this il be called a dipper. So, you justify this with your sinister beliefs, all I'm saying is if this happened to us you wouldn't be justifying this.Absolutely, but if you are concerned of a driver who was very slowly trying to navigate through a crowd, at what point is your solution, I know lets get this guy riled up and kick fuck out of his car. What outcome did they want from taking that action? Mob mentality.
Were the barriers not being removed? Is that why there was at least one other vehicle in front of them?I was under the understanding that this road had been closed off for the parade so how he managed to drive down it is surely a major factor