Ok you're right about Mbuemo though I think he has played a striker a few times, so what if Wood is 34 ? I didn't say I'd have him, I said he was currently a better striker than Delap, and so is Watkins despite his average season, Havertz ? good one mate.
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Liam Delap
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WesthoughtonJohn
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If Chelsea are that interested let's buy him back and sell him to them for £50m ;)
cleavers
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He already did that when he signed for Ipswich T, I'm not convinced he'll be a top striker, but he'll certainly be a mid range PL striker, he doesn't need another relegation club (Leeds will be a risl of that, even if they strengthen).In my opinion he'd have been better off signing for a club like Leeds.
cleavers
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Won't we get some of chelsea's money anyway ?If Chelsea are that interested let's buy him back and sell him to them for £50m ;)
WesthoughtonJohn
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I'll be amazed if any of the 3 promoted sides survive.He already did that when he signed for Ipswich T, I'm not convinced he'll be a top striker, but he'll certainly be a mid range PL striker, he doesn't need another relegation club (Leeds will be a risl of that, even if they strengthen).
In fact I'll be surprised if it happens again the way the games structured now.
nmc
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What have Chelsea sold to themselves this year to fund another spending spree and ensure they stay with PSR.
What have Chelsea sold to themselves this year to fund another spending spree and ensure they stay with PSR.
The worst case scenario is you get a 5 or 6 point deduction.
If I was an owner looking to build, I would just take the hit. Like Forest did.
That's like one of Baldricks plans.If Chelsea are that interested let's buy him back and sell him to them for £50m ;)
Marvin.
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He's still very inexperienced. If I were him, I'd have planned on more experience at a mid-table club. Perhaps Leeds was the wrong choice. If you have offers from Chelsea and Leeds it would be very difficult to turn them down.He already did that when he signed for Ipswich T, I'm not convinced he'll be a top striker, but he'll certainly be a mid range PL striker, he doesn't need another relegation club (Leeds will be a risl of that, even if they strengthen).
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I don't really understand a buy back clause. If w'ed have triggered it does that mean Delap would have to come to City if we offer same fee as another club? Even if he didn't want to? And how does that work with personal terms? Would they have to be matched? And could that be manipulated?
If the player doesn't have to agree (which surely must be the case crom a legal perspective), what's the point in inserting it if you have put in a release clause?
If the player doesn't have to agree (which surely must be the case crom a legal perspective), what's the point in inserting it if you have put in a release clause?
That don't sound right.Apparently its 30percent so 9m not too bad all things considered
We sold Delap for around 20m. Chelsea buy him for 30m and we are receiving 9m.
So Ipswich make a profit of 1m.
I think we only get a portion of the 10m, not the 30m, but am open to correction
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Chelsea are going to have more city academy graduates in their side than we are. Their decision to just poach all the talent we let go too quickly is the best decision they've made since their takeover.
It has been the case in the past though where a player can agree to re-sign for the club that sold him with terms already agreed in the deal that sells him. I wouldn't expect that to be the case nowadays but it's a possibility.
Depends on the agreement. Generally it's just a clause that allows us to pay x amount to re-sign him without any guarantee they'd actually want to come back and so the point is it is just a way of reducing the cost.I don't really understand a buy back clause. If w'ed have triggered it does that mean Delap would have to come to City if we offer same fee as another club? Even if he didn't want to? And how does that work with personal terms? Would they have to be matched? And could that be manipulated?
If the player doesn't have to agree (which surely must be the case crom a legal perspective), what's the point in inserting it if you have put in a release clause?
It has been the case in the past though where a player can agree to re-sign for the club that sold him with terms already agreed in the deal that sells him. I wouldn't expect that to be the case nowadays but it's a possibility.
I don't really understand a buy back clause. If w'ed have triggered it does that mean Delap would have to come to City if we offer same fee as another club? Even if he didn't want to? And how does that work with personal terms? Would they have to be matched? And could that be manipulated?
If the player doesn't have to agree (which surely must be the case crom a legal perspective), what's the point in inserting it if you have put in a release clause?
When we wanted to sign Morata, Real Madrid activated his buyback clause from Juventus for 30m then sold him to us for 57m a few weeks later.
Mbuemo, Wissa, Wood, Watkins, Havertz, Bowen, MatetaOkay, who's better?
Player definitely doesn't have to do it like what other people said, but the player (or maybe more importantly his agent) might be agree because they can get more money from signing on fees etc through two transfers.I don't really understand a buy back clause. If w'ed have triggered it does that mean Delap would have to come to City if we offer same fee as another club? Even if he didn't want to? And how does that work with personal terms? Would they have to be matched? And could that be manipulated?
If the player doesn't have to agree (which surely must be the case crom a legal perspective), what's the point in inserting it if you have put in a release clause?
They are hardly poaching.Chelsea are going to have more city academy graduates in their side than we are. Their decision to just poach all the talent we let go too quickly is the best decision they've made since their takeover.
Palmer is the only youngster that went directly.
Delap, Lavia , Tosin and Sancho (possibly) all arrived from other clubs.
I'm surprised other clubs aren't following their example.
I read somewhere that 14 PL clubs had one of our ex players last season ( or possibly the season before)
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Correct we only get 20% of everything above 20m. So if he's sold for 30m we would 20% get of 10m which is 2m.That don't sound right.
We sold Delap for around 20m. Chelsea buy him for 30m and we are receiving 9m.
So Ipswich make a profit of 1m.
I think we only get a portion of the 10m, not the 30m, but am open to correction
Marvin.
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Hojlund had a breakout season for Atalanta at a similar age and look how that turned out.in 32 games he scored 32 goals and 8 assists in the PL2 with our under 23's. So not just a one season wonder. Just turned 22 a few months back.
10 non-penalty goals for a team that wasn't even in the Championship 2 seasons ago. He will clearly be a 20+ a goal season striker for Chelsea. These do not grow on trees.
Mbuemo is a winger, Wood and Watkins are not better. Come on now. Great season for Wood but he's turning 34 this year. You would really rather have Chris Wood than Liam Delap? To each their own but you'd be alone on that island. Watkins, decent player for sure. He also was coming off the bench for Villa during the most important part of the season? Rogers is the better player out of them. Also turning 30 this year.
I would without a doubt take Delap over either of these lads. For this season coming, and obviously going forward.
In my opinion, the only player you could argue is Kai Havertz. But for me Delap has a higher ceiling so I'd rank him 3.
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I'm not sure it could be categorised as the best decision, perhaps more so the least worst.Chelsea are going to have more city academy graduates in their side than we are. Their decision to just poach all the talent we let go too quickly is the best decision they've made since their takeover.
Depends on the agreement. Generally it's just a clause that allows us to pay x amount to re-sign him without any guarantee they'd actually want to come back and so the point is it is just a way of reducing the cost.
It has been the case in the past though where a player can agree to re-sign for the club that sold him with terms already agreed in the deal that sells him. I wouldn't expect that to be the case nowadays but it's a possibility.
They've spent an absolute fortune on average players, and the only decent player they've got came from City.
Lavia has been injured for a lot of the season, but has hardly been stand out when he has played.
Palmer has been a great signing for them, but I doubt anyone would argue that he's not a top player.
Palmer aside, I don't think any of their other ex-City players would even get on our bench, and I'd include Delap in that; I personally think he's a run of the mill English striker, that'll probably get them 15 premier league goals.