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mattyads said:
I'd say very few, maybe Haaland. I think people knew how special agurro and Silva were.

I think that's probably my biggest disappointment with us in the transfer market, I get why signing potential had to be our model pre and mid pep, but once we had elevated ourselves I feel like we missed a trick in not kicking on and actually buying “off the peg players”

Especially when your in a good position. That's my worry now, we don't really have room for error, the team and squad are such that we really need Top signings, as close to as sure thing as we can.

Plus I don't think he's the style of player we need. We have plenty of players who show to feet and are good in small spaces, we need aggressive physical fwd runners.

Just my thoughts for what it's worth.
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I think the only the only club that buys universally considered world class players with any regularity are Real Madrid. Bayern and Barca now and again. PSG used to but it failed as a strategy for them.

I just don't think it's that simple to be honest.

Also we tried getting in aggressive runners with Nunes, Kovacic, Doku, Savinho (and Haaland), Marmoush is also that type of player. I actually think it's the tight spaces type of player that we are missing, the players we do have that do it are almost all ageing.
 
mattyads said:
Yeah, I'm not 100% convinced by semenyo, but he is more the type of player id like us to get, just to get a balance.

I might get battered for this as well…
Ait Nouri…love watching him play, highly technical, great at beating the press, but his biggest weakness is our biggest defensive weakness...pace!

Marmoush, he is best as a second striker, he'd have been unreal in the 90’s.

I don't think he's proved as effective in his career so far, out wide right. More somewhere between hanging off the CF and the right.

We could do that, but it means changing our blue print. Not sure he's good enough to warrant that change.

On a positive note, it sounds like we are getting the business done early which is a lot better.
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I recall Pep being asked about playing Aguero and Jesus together and he said he'd planned it when he had Mendy and Walker, but when Mendy got injured, he needed Sane and Sterling to provide the width. We haven't had a proper attacking left back since that and he'd moved towards the fullback into midfield.

Depends who we buy, but I wonder if he's planning width from fullbacks with inside forwards. Not sure where that leaves Doku and Savio, but would allow the likes of Marmoush, Foden, possibly Cherki to play around Haaland. Whatever happens, doesn't feel like we're trying to replace outgoings with younger versions
 
pee dubya said:
I think the only the only club that buys universally considered world class players with any regularity are Real Madrid. Bayern and Barca now and again. PSG used to but it failed as a strategy for them.

I just don't think it's that simple to be honest.

Also we tried getting in aggressive runners with Nunes, Kovacic, Doku, Savinho (and Haaland), Marmoush is also that type of player. I actually think it's the tight spaces type of player that we are missing, the players we do have that do it are almost all ageing.
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Agreed. We've added the runners. But our tight space players aged a bit. Need to replenish
 
DMA's said:
I do wonder if this means livramento will be the home grown target rather than Gibbs white. We need hg options and I wonder if the club think it’s better to get this guy in and sign livramento rather than gibbs white and alt nouri.

Both would cost roughly the same imo and are obviously on the full back and cam list of options. Just a thought
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lol I wasn’t a fan of both but we acc need both
In less than 2 season Ake Stones Walker Grealish possibly Rico could all go
 
mattyads said:
Yeah, I'm not 100% convinced by semenyo, but he is more the type of player id like us to get, just to get a balance.

I might get battered for this as well…
Ait Nouri…love watching him play, highly technical, great at beating the press, but his biggest weakness is our biggest defensive weakness...pace!

Marmoush, he is best as a second striker, he'd have been unreal in the 90’s.

I don't think he's proved as effective in his career so far, out wide right. More somewhere between hanging off the CF and the right.

We could do that, but it means changing our blue print. Not sure he's good enough to warrant that change.

On a positive note, it sounds like we are getting the business done early which is a lot better.
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Huh. Ait Nouri is fast.
 
mattyads said:
Marmoush, he is best as a second striker, he'd have been unreal in the 90’s.

I don't think he's proved as effective in his career so far, out wide right. More somewhere between hanging off the CF and the right.
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I worry that playing Marmoush as second striker, which I agree is his best position, cramps Haaland. We're already bad enough for Haaland by being so possession focused, now we're cramping his space even more.
He's great, it's not like he's going to suck, but I don't feel like it's the best fit and having just committed to Haaland for 10 years, the Marmoush signing has always been questionable to me. I hope I'm wrong!
 
konapearl said:
I worry that playing Marmoush as second striker, which I agree is his best position, cramps Haaland. We're already bad enough for Haaland by being so possession focused, now we're cramping his space even more.
He's great, it's not like he's going to suck, but I don't feel like it's the best fit and having just committed to Haaland for 10 years, the Marmoush signing has always been questionable to me. I hope I'm wrong!
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I'm confident you will be.
 
mattyads said:
Well the construct of my point (you might have missed it earlier) if the player isn't out there, you don't sign anyone. Nobody is better than another mistake.

We are in no mistake territory. A few seasons back, I agree, take a chance see what happens. We did that with Nunes and doku, and its turned sour.

So if the player isn't there, hold back and look to bring in players from other positions, we need plenty.

We have a chronic lack of pace and power. Very few willing to run in beyond.

We have some quick players agreed, but with the exception of haaland they lack the power needed with it.

My other concern is he occupies a similar position to Foden, likes coming off the left into central areas.

I'd rather concentrate on getting back the old Phil and spend the money elsewhere.

If we get other players we need, too players, then fair enough, take a punt.

Its just, we've taken a lot of punts in the last few transfer windows and its not been great.

Fingers crossed, I've got egg on my face.
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Nunes and Doku will come good. They've not even been that bad.

I think the era of signing the ready made product is over tbh. PSR means it's all about signing and coaching potential. Even Haaland was raw. Clubs go through phases and we are in a rebuild so need to be patient.

The last big signing before that who was an out of the box top player was Grealish I think. It doesn't always work out if you go big either.
 
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