Florian Wirtz

TheGoat said:
Grealish won 3 league titles, an FA Cup and a Champions League in his first 3 seasons at City.
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The team was successful. Grealish was at best average.

Love the guy, but for 3 figures you want Haaland, Messi, Mbappe type numbers. Not that he 'participated' in the larger winning of trophies.


Akanji has been as successful as Jack in a City shirt. So, No! I wont consider Jack value for money. Love him and wish him well. Hope he goes to Napoli, joins Kev and teard up the Italian league.

Lovely human. Talented footballer. But an average individual career at City.
 
blueparrot said:
Not really, but their window doesn't open yet so no real rush for them.
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It’s open for everybody, hence the rags have bought Cunha.

Most clubs aren’t rushing into early deals unless they’re easy to do.

There’ll be more movement towards the end of the month, especially with clubs that need to sell for PSR reasons.
 
Please let him be £125m minimum, I can already see some tight fisted scousers applying copium about his fee. Already inflating all our transfers before any deals have been done.

Even though we're not really bothered as a fanbase on the whole because if he ends up being good, it wont matter(plus the valuation has been known for ages and they aren't budging). It will be so easy to wind them up about it, if City end up getting all 4 targets, for less than Wirtz will cost them.
 
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Metalartin said:
Please let him be £125m minimum, I can already see some tight fisted scousers applying copium about his fee. Already inflating all our transfers before any deals have been done.

Even though we're not really bothered as fanbase on the whole because if he ends up being good, it wont matter(plus the valuation has been known for ages and they aren't budging). It will be so easy to wind them up about it, if City end up getting all 4 targets for less than Wirtz will cost them.
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The dippers are weird as fuck about money.

I'd understand it if their budget was tiny and their success comparable to Leicester's title win, but in reality they spend roughly as much as us and have done for years.

You'd think they'd be able to come up with a better excuse by now.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
It’s open for everybody, hence the rags have bought Cunha.

Most clubs aren’t rushing into early deals unless they’re easy to do.

There’ll be more movement towards the end of the month, especially with clubs that need to sell for PSR reasons.
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Its open for deals but they can’t register them, only CWC teams can register players in this window,and unless they think Wirtz is thinking of changing his mind there is no big rush.
 
supercity88 said:
It's disappointing he's going to the dippers but it's a real change in model from them paying so much on a single player. It could cause them more problems in the future as they're setting a new benchmark for fees and wages. He's not a player I thought they needed, but one that definitely improves them.
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No, it's not. They doubled the world record fee for a goalkeeper that had only been set the previous season and Van Dijk was a world record fee where they outbid, by a not insignificant margin, plenty of other teams including City.
When they were gifted the Covid league they had the highest wage bill in England too.
Liverpool not spending money is just propaganda.
 
danielwood5 said:
No, it's not. They doubled the world record fee for a goalkeeper that had only been set the previous season and Van Dijk was a world record fee where they outbid, by a not insignificant margin, plenty of other teams including City.
When they were gifted the Covid league they had the highest wage bill in England too.
Liverpool not spending money is just propaganda.
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Very true. They spent a wedge on Nunez & Szoboszlai and had a £100m bid rejected for Caicedo.
 
Dax777 said:
The team was successful. Grealish was at best average.

Love the guy, but for 3 figures you want Haaland, Messi, Mbappe type numbers. Not that he 'participated' in the larger winning of trophies.


Akanji has been as successful as Jack in a City shirt. So, No! I wont consider Jack value for money. Love him and wish him well. Hope he goes to Napoli, joins Kev and teard up the Italian league.

Lovely human. Talented footballer. But an average individual career at City.
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Like any great investment fund you should just look at the overall value of the squad. You get losses & wins & individually it doesn’t matter & that’s how the club will look at it.

Grealish was great for our brand & the meme of him at the front of the bus will be iconic for the rest of our history.
 
danielwood5 said:
No, it's not. They doubled the world record fee for a goalkeeper that had only been set the previous season and Van Dijk was a world record fee where they outbid, by a not insignificant margin, plenty of other teams including City.
When they were gifted the Covid league they had the highest wage bill in England too.
Liverpool not spending money is just propaganda.
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I'm aware they have spent money before, but (and this isn't a piss take in this instance) they did sell Coutinho for the price they got Salah and Van Dijk.

I believe Salah was on circa 90k a week and De Bruyne was on about 250k a week when he first signed.

Klopp spent all summer whinging about not being able to afford someone like Bellingham before chucking more at Caicedo last minute. But generally they've invested only when they've sold a number of players and net spend has been low. Wirtz is big money, huge wages and for me is not the typical strategy of the dippers. Traditionally we would be buying Wirtz and they'd be buying Cherki.
 
supercity88 said:
I'm aware they have spent money before, but (and this isn't a piss take in this instance) they did sell Coutinho for the price they got Salah and Van Dijk.

I believe Salah was on circa 90k a week and De Bruyne was on about 250k a week when he first signed.

Klopp spent all summer whinging about not being able to afford someone like Bellingham before chucking more at Caicedo last minute. But generally they've invested only when they've sold a number of players and net spend has been low. Wirtz is big money, huge wages and for me is not the typical strategy of the dippers. Traditionally we would be buying Wirtz and they'd be buying Cherki.
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Most of this is untrue. You're just repeating dipper propaganda here.
 
supercity88 said:
I'm aware they have spent money before, but (and this isn't a piss take in this instance) they did sell Coutinho for the price they got Salah and Van Dijk.

I believe Salah was on circa 90k a week and De Bruyne was on about 250k a week when he first signed.

Klopp spent all summer whinging about not being able to afford someone like Bellingham before chucking more at Caicedo last minute. But generally they've invested only when they've sold a number of players and net spend has been low. Wirtz is big money, huge wages and for me is not the typical strategy of the dippers. Traditionally we would be buying Wirtz and they'd be buying Cherki.
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Now do Salah's wages with every possible add-on, agent fees, cost of his Stabucks order every day, car parking charges, Uber Eats credit account and an extra few grand thrown on for shock value in the same way De Bruyne's wages will have been 'calculated'.
They've spent big on plenty of players and this hasn't been covered by the magical Coutinho money tree and their wage bill will be the biggest in the league this season.
 
Should this not be in general football merged with the red scouse thread as it has fuck all to do with us anymore
 
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