Vat on Independent school fees?

[BridgyDids]

I used to read it for its outstanding sports coverage. Sadly, it’s crap now.

I stopped reading it when I went to uni, in early 2000s.

They used to do a deal where you could buy it for 10p per day in term time, and it had a great sports section and a decent business bit too.

I remember Private Eye (maybe) reported that they were essentially taking the Reuters match reports of the county championship cricket, and then changing the name of the journalist to one that basically took the piss out of the reader.

I haven’t read it since. If they insult the reader with trivial names, then what else are they doing?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Following on from the suspicious Telegraph story earlier in the thread about the woman earning £12500 and still sending her kids to private school, they've had to withdraw a fake article.

I don't know if anyone else saw this article pushed on social media:

Just came up on The Rest is Entertainment. The picture was a stock picture from 2012. The people in the article didn't exist, and it was basically written by AI with a real journalist's name attached. They're literally and knowingly publishing fake news on this topic now to draw clicks.



And story

Backfired from the point of publication - 90% of the population reading that wouldn't have given a shit for the parents be they real or AI -Telegraph has no idea of the real world experiences of real people - they are best sticking to promoting racists and facists

 

[SkyBlueFlux]

The Telegraph ffs. Never agreed with it politically, but it always had a high standard of journalism. That article is an abomination. Embarrassing cunts.

Unfortunately the Telegraph has become the new Daily Mail. I find their click-baity articles being posted everywhere online. The level of factuality has gone majorly downhill in favour of trying to capture a new generation of young disenfranchised Gen Zs who are sceptical of immigration.

There’s hardly a day that goes by I don’t see some article about a court blocking somebody from being deported because they claim to be gay or something like that. Usually when you do a fraction of reading beyond the headline you tend to find they are walking a fine line between being grossly misleading and outright lying - this AI family nonsense is just another example.

I often used to use the Telegraph as a place to find a sensible counter argument to my views. Now I will not go on their site or read anything they print out of principle. Yet another conservative institution whose reputation is forever tarnished by the new lead-brained right-wing paradigm.

 

[bluethrunthru]

another made up and published by the Mail

 

[metalblue]

another made up and published by the Mail

Is it made up though?

Occupational therapy - Children (Richmond) :: Occupational therapy - Children (Richmond) :: Kingston and Richmond NHS Foundation Trust

We provide services for children and young people from 0-18 years who are experiencing functional difficulties at school, home or during play.

www.kingstonandrichmond.nhs.uk

Under the who is eligible section

“Children and young people of school age can be referred via their School SENCo for assessment if they attend a state-funded Richmond school and have a Richmond or Kingston address.”

That’s strikes me as being outrageous.

 

[hilts]

Unfortunately the Telegraph has become the new Daily Mail. I find their click-baity articles being posted everywhere online. The level of factuality has gone majorly downhill in favour of trying to capture a new generation of young disenfranchised Gen Zs who are sceptical of immigration.

There’s hardly a day that goes by I don’t see some article about a court blocking somebody from being deported because they claim to be gay or something like that. Usually when you do a fraction of reading beyond the headline you tend to find they are walking a fine line between being grossly misleading and outright lying - this AI family nonsense is just another example.

I often used to use the Telegraph as a place to find a sensible counter argument to my views. Now I will not go on their site or read anything they print out of principle. Yet another conservative institution whose reputation is forever tarnished by the new lead-brained right-wing paradigm.

Is there a decent newspaper in the UK anymore, I only read the front page of whatever one is on the chair in the kebab shop once in a blue moon

 

[gordondaviesmoustache]

Is there a decent newspaper in the UK anymore, I only read the front page of whatever one is on the chair in the kebab shop once in a blue moon

You have a chair in your kebab shop? Posh ****.

 

[hilts]

You have a chair in your kebab shop? Posh ****.

Health and safety with my kebab shop, only the very unstable and pissed would think of even entering.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Is it made up though?

Occupational therapy - Children (Richmond) :: Occupational therapy - Children (Richmond) :: Kingston and Richmond NHS Foundation Trust

We provide services for children and young people from 0-18 years who are experiencing functional difficulties at school, home or during play.

www.kingstonandrichmond.nhs.uk

Under the who is eligible section

“Children and young people of school age can be referred via their School SENCo for assessment if they attend a state-funded Richmond school and have a Richmond or Kingston address.”

That’s strikes me as being outrageous.

It’s really not outrageous, in the slightest.

 

[meltonblue]

It’s really not outrageous, in the slightest.

The Mail quoting Conservative MPs moaning about it is the outrageous bit!

 

[metalblue]

It’s really not outrageous, in the slightest.

You don’t think the NHS should provide a comprehensive service to all ??

 

[I'm With Stupid]

You don’t think the NHS should provide a comprehensive service to all ??

I'd have to hear the justification for it. I know that for stuff like medicals for employment, you have to pay, for example. It does seem a bit weird though. I don't know if occupational therapists are typically required to be paid for by employers though.

 

[metalblue]

I'd have to hear the justification for it. I know that for stuff like medicals for employment, you have to pay, for example. It does seem a bit weird though. I don't know if occupational therapists are typically required to be paid for by employers though.

As I interpret it;

SENco at state school referral accepted
SENco at private school referral refused

Both referrals relate to school aged children.

I find it staggering that the NHS is choosing treatment based purely on social reasons.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

As I interpret it;

SENco at state school referral accepted
SENco at private school referral refused

Both referrals relate to school aged children.

I find it staggering that the NHS is choosing treatment based purely on social reasons.

It’ll be something to do with the legal requirements are different between types of school. In state schools there will probably be much more need for a coordinator and less so in private, so both will probably governed in different ways.

 

[metalblue]

It’ll be something to do with the legal requirements are different between types of school. In state schools there will probably be much more need for a coordinator and less so in private, so both will probably governed in different ways.

Then surely, if that was so the dividing factor, it wouldn’t be on the school type but rather the qualifications of the referring professional?

That would be perfectly reasonable, in the same way Mavis down the road can’t refer me to hospital but a qualified doctor can.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

You don’t think the NHS should provide a comprehensive service to all ??

They do. However, the way funding is allocated means this service is obliged to treat children registered with a Richmond GP. Any child, whatever school they’re at, would be eligible if they had a local GP. Assuming there is a privately funded boarding school in their locality, it’s unlikely that many attendees would, in fact, be registered with a local GP.
Also, if you’re paying for your child to go to private school and they have a SEN, they’re going to be getting a far higher level of support and intervention than they’d ever get in that service.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

Then surely, if that was so the dividing factor, it wouldn’t be on the school type but rather the qualifications of the referring professional?

That would be perfectly reasonable, in the same way Mavis down the road can’t refer me to hospital but a qualified doctor can.

Unsure, just a guess that there may be a legal requirement on one which therefore obliges the other.

Just trying to make sense of it.

 

[Vic]

Following on from the suspicious Telegraph story earlier in the thread about the woman earning £12500 and still sending her kids to private school, they've had to withdraw a fake article.

I don't know if anyone else saw this article pushed on social media:

Just came up on The Rest is Entertainment. The picture was a stock picture from 2012. The people in the article didn't exist, and it was basically written by AI with a real journalist's name attached. They're literally and knowingly publishing fake news on this topic now to draw clicks.



And story

The question is why the Faily Telegraph thought it a good idea to publish a sob story about rich people cutting back on holidays - thinking it was true!

 

[meltonblue]

As I interpret it;

SENco at state school referral accepted
SENco at private school referral refused

Both referrals relate to school aged children.

I find it staggering that the NHS is choosing treatment based purely on social reasons.

It’s not classed as NHS, it’s local authority budget and provision.

 

[The Future’s Blue!]

The question is why the Faily Telegraph thought it a good idea to publish a sob story about rich people cutting back on holidays - thinking it was true!

Is the correct question. Who are they pandering to, it certainly isn’t the average middling family.

Then again, are they there for the middling family or their to influence, as they used to put it, the more intelligent?