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FogBlueInSanFran said:
Again, that's not an answer to my question. Would be interested in yours.
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Its a silly statement/question. The statement is built on faulty and false premises.
1. The abiding characteristic is not to lie. Thats the false premise.
2. Lying, occurs in every administration. So its not a unique characteristic. Nor is it even more prevalent now than say in the last administration. Which was in essence ran as a lie. That's the faulty premise. The assumption of the uniqueness of lying.

So, you have a false claim, on top of a faulty premise, and then a poor conclusion.

But lets take your claim at face value... Based on your analysis, which one were you the last 4 years? Stupid or Morally defective?

Or more interestingly, were you both?
 
Dax777 said:
Its a silly statement/question. The statement is built on faulty and false premises.
1. The abiding characteristic is not to lie.
2. Lying, occurs in every administration. So its not a unique characteristic. Nor is it even more prevalent now than say in the last administration. Which was in essence ran as a lie.

So, you have a false claim, on top of a faulty premise, and s conclusion.

But lets take your claim at face value... Which one were you the last 4 years? Stupid or Morrally defective?

Or more interestingly, were you both?
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I appreciate your answer which is the second of the alternatives I provided: you, yourself, lie.

I would be curious as to others' responses.
 
Wait until he knocks on the head the Mid terms next year. Few folk are already saying this is all part of the ploy. Invasion army on the street so there'll be no voting.

Who's going to stop him. No one!

What an absolute fucked up country.
 
The always excellent David Allen Green (avid Villa supporter, but I hope we can forgive that) on the US crisis.


Yet almost nothing of what Trump is doing is unpreventable. Congress and the courts could stop him, if they wanted to do so.

So the real problem is not so much Trump – there are always Trumps of one kind or another – but the failure of the gatekeepers...

...The constitution of the United States is in crisis, and there are shrugs rather than pitchforks.



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Dax777 said:
Its a silly statement/question. The statement is built on faulty and false premises.
1. The abiding characteristic is not to lie. Thats the false premise.
2. Lying, occurs in every administration. So its not a unique characteristic. Nor is it even more prevalent now than say in the last administration. Which was in essence ran as a lie. That's the faulty premise. The assumption of the uniqueness of lying.

So, you have a false claim, on top of a faulty premise, and then a poor conclusion.

But lets take your claim at face value... Based on your analysis, which one were you the last 4 years? Stupid or Morally defective?

Or more interestingly, were you both?
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This isn’t just about lying and lying can take on many forms. For example, one can provide a partial answer or qualified answer. Is that a lie? Possibly, probably, maybe just a clever response?
This is about taking observable truth and telling people that what they can see and hear is not true…… and have millions of either cultists or morons back it up along with a plethora of media/social media sycophants backing it up.
Fascism is taking hold in front of our very eyes and people like you try to deflect by focussing on ridiculous minutiae to avoid having to face up to your own poor choices (I won’t say lack of humanity as that is a very serious charge and I don’t know you). So open your eyes and ears mate
 
FogBlueInSanFran said:
I appreciate your answer which is the second of the alternatives I provided: you, yourself, lie.

I would be curious as to others' responses.
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Do you think they really talked to a marine astronaut on the moon the other day.

Lies?

Mate, they’re taking the piss now. They don’t give a fcuk what you think.
 
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