Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

Here's a question, if you believe this. Do you think pretty much every country should have them then?
It's called MAD. Mutually assured destruction, and it's acted pretty well as a deterrent for up close to a century. In an ideal world nobody would have them. We have them, does that mean we should be bombed by another state?

If you believe Netanyahu's woe-is-me tall tale of Iran's nuclear stockpiling then he's caught you hook, line, and sinker.
 
No one should. The less the better.

But if you are constantly being attacked by your neighbours then you probably need a deterrent. It is better than invading your neighbour and killing thousands of innocents.

Pakistan and India balance each other for example.
I agree with the first part, but it's never going to happen.

For me preventing proliferation is the next best option, the less there are the less chance of some idiot letting one off.

I'm wondering where you'd draw the line, should Yemen and the Houthi have them? North Korea?
 
I agree with the first part, but it's never going to happen.

For me preventing proliferation is the next best option, the less there are the less chance of some idiot letting one off.

I'm wondering where you'd draw the line, should Yemen and the Houthi have them? North Korea?
Should Trump ?
 
I agree with the first part, but it's never going to happen.

For me preventing proliferation is the next best option, the less there are the less chance of some idiot letting one off.

I'm wondering where you'd draw the line, should Yemen and the Houthi have them? North Korea?
Honestly I'm no expert. But where the fuck is the current crisis? Its Gaza. This airstrike just makes the situation worse.

The Israeli government are beyond evil.
 
Iran have launched a retaliatory volley of more than 100 drones towards Israel, which take several hours to make the journey.

The IDF has destroyed some of drones outside Israel's airspace, but some remain on course, a military official has said.
 
Pakistan has them and we all survived. If Iran had them there may be more chance of peace than now.

If Iran weren't constantly on the defensive there may be a chance for the people there to have more freedoms.

Having a massive threat against Iran only supporysthe hardline there. Its the same with Palenstine and anywhere else.

Peace breeds peace. And war breeds death and land grabs.
Iran on the defensive, don't make me laugh. They've been committing terrorist acts since 1979 and funding terrorism worldwide. They've subjugated their population such that if you're seen as a threat or say something out of turn you end up swinging from a crane. The sooner that regime falls the better for the middle east.
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Iran have launched a retaliatory volley of more than 100 drones towards Israel, which take several hours to make the journey.

The IDF has destroyed some of drones outside Israel's airspace, but some remain on course, a military official has said.
You’ve copied and pasted that I’ve just read it word for word
 

Israel have carried out a number of strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities over the past several decades, as well as targeting key individuals within their nuclear programme and of course developing the Stuxnet programme. Thankfully these actions have so far prevented a tyrannical regime in Tehran from acquiring a nuclear weapon and hopefully this morning’s actions will prove just as effective.

So what you’re doing in posting what you did is simply highlighting the efficacy of Israel’s actions and indeed the justification for doing so.

I presume this wasn’t quite what you intended, but thanks all the same.
 
Honestly I'm no expert. But where the fuck is the current crisis? Its Gaza. This airstrike just makes the situation worse.

The Israeli government are beyond evil.
Agree with everything, I'm not having a go, just wonder where or if you'd draw a line. Like, should Hamas have nuclear weapons?

I also don't know the answer, but the logical end point of MAD is that everyone should have them then the World would be a more peaceful place
 
Agree with everything, I'm not having a go, just wonder where or if you'd draw a line. Like, should Hamas have nuclear weapons?

I also don't know the answer, but the logical end point of MAD is that everyone should have them then the World would be a more peaceful place
Israel are the example of why we might as well get rid of our nuclear weapons and spend the money on the here and now, given that Israel are telling us that they are constantly being attacked, on all sides, and yet they’ve had nuclear weapons since 1967. Seems the deterrent effect might be a tad overstated!
 
It's called MAD. Mutually assured destruction, and it's acted pretty well as a deterrent for up close to a century. In an ideal world nobody would have them. We have them, does that mean we should be bombed by another state?

If you believe Netanyahu's woe-is-me tall tale of Iran's nuclear stockpiling then he's caught you hook, line, and sinker.
MAD works on the basis that participants are all able to think rationally. The Iranian regime do not conform to our notion of rational thinking .
They are lead by religious fanatics.
The eschatology of their belief system encourages them to seek conflict with Israel and the West to bring forward the return of the hidden Imam .
Look up Shia Twelverism and it’s eschatology.
The people in charge of this country actually believe this .
Let me know if you still think they should have access to nuclear weapons .
 
One consequence of the allies victory in WW1 was the collapse of the Ottoman empire and subsequent carve up of the Middle East.

Can't help but think that things would be better if the British and Americans had not been the prime movers and shakers in the area
Nowt to do with US at the time it was a carve up based on the interests of the UK and France.
 

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