Florian Wirtz

Maverick; said:
Yeah this is true, but Wirtz over Cherki is a no brainer as things stand. No doubting Cherki's talent. I thought Pep might swerve him due to work rate but he obviously feels he can work around that/and improve it. Cherki is an exciting signing but people are doing too much with him. I think he will need an adaption period.

Not a problem most of the time, but it looks like it was in this case. In cases where it's close, details like this matter. Nevermind, Cherki is a very good fall back option.
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He just preferred Liverpool to City, don’t think it was anything to do with Pep. Cherki’s work rate thing is a bit of a myth too, and his off the ball positional play has come on a lot this season.
 
Maverick; said:
Yeah this is true, but Wirtz over Cherki is a no brainer as things stand. No doubting Cherki's talent. I thought Pep might swerve him due to work rate but he obviously feels he can work around that/and improve it. Cherki is an exciting signing but people are doing too much with him. I think he will need an adaption period.

Not a problem most of the time, but it looks like it was in this case. In cases where it's close, details like this matter. Nevermind, Cherki is a very good fall back option.
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Agree with majority of this work rate By him I wouldn’t take much notice of this until we see him in a city shirt playing a game..
 
Maverick; said:
'Alternatively, several sources, including those in Germany, have indicated that Wirtz enquired about how long Guardiola would remain in charge given his contract is due to expire in 2027. According to the German publication Bild, the Catalan was not emphatic and so it was Wirtz who turned down City, not the other way round.'

Pep not being contractually committed could be a problem going forward.
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You believing made up quotes by non-existent sources could also be a problem going forward.
 
Maverick; said:
Yeah this is true, but Wirtz over Cherki is a no brainer as things stand. No doubting Cherki's talent. I thought Pep might swerve him due to work rate but he obviously feels he can work around that/and improve it. Cherki is an exciting signing but people are doing too much with him. I think he will need an adaption period.

Not a problem most of the time, but it looks like it was in this case. In cases where it's close, details like this matter. Nevermind, Cherki is a very good fall back option.
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It isn't a no brainer when Cherki cost 25% of the price.
 
Probably being dim but what has herman wirts done to be earning KdB type money? Good player, not a great player, currently at least.

With the additions last season plus the three new lads and the majority of the regulars getting back to form and fitness, I think we will do extremely well next season. Be nice to win the CWC and strengthen further before September too.
 
Berti No Show said:
Buying Wirtz simply didn’t align with the broader squad rebuild and financial sustainability goals, and huge credit must go to Hugo Viana. He's brought in high quality players at very reasonable prices. When you factor in the annual PSR costs, Wirtz’s annual cost when signing for Liverpool is around £43 million (I could be wrong). On the other hand Cherki, Reijnders and Ait Nouri combined annual cost is approximately £45-46 million. We've absolutely smashed it this transfer window.
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I see your point mate about Wirtz but I am a bit worried about us buying cheaper players, are they good enough to win the premier league and CL ?

Or will we have more Nunes and Doku's, good players but not of the standards were used too. And not good enough to win big things.

Anyway hope they all turn out to be City greats ! It will be interesting.
 
Cityfan1977 said:
They are realy trying to tell the world that he is the greatest signing ever and will be the greatest player ever.

He has a long way to go to ber even close to KDB and Foden we will see and to those that sre compering him to Cherki , lets just wait and see who will be better buy I have a sneaky fealing Cherki will be the next super star not Wirtz but let them show us next season.
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& when it happens no one will believe Cherkis transfer fee.
 
Time alone will tell whether this is a masterstroke for Liverpool or a bit of a financial disaster, most likely somewhere in between. However, we do have a bit of a history, mostly with United, of showing an interest in a player just to boost the price and then quietly withdrawing.
 
Maverick; said:
'Alternatively, several sources, including those in Germany, have indicated that Wirtz enquired about how long Guardiola would remain in charge given his contract is due to expire in 2027. According to the German publication Bild, the Catalan was not emphatic and so it was Wirtz who turned down City, not the other way round.'

Pep not being contractually committed could be a problem going forward.
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Thank god Marmoush, Reijnders, Ait Nouri, Cherki, khusanov, Reis and Gonzalez didn't sign for us then.
 
NZBM said:
I'm sorry, I just don't resonate with this kind of hate. We seem so weak in acting on a player who didn't want to join us. Hope he flops, he is a **** for joining liverpool seems like you are so hurt that he joined them. Who gives a fuck, who gives a flying fuck, our past 2 window, imo has been great, they cant sustain spending like this and we can. We can afford for grealish to be flop, we can afford another 200 million worth of players to be flop and we can still continue being strong in market. Liverpool cant, so let's not show weaknesses by comments like this. We sound so butthurt.
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Just out of interest, why can't Liverpool spend big and afford for them to flop but city can? Was the £85m spent on Nunez who barely makes the bench for the last 2 years and they can't wait to dump not a flop or not a lot of money? If they can't afford flops what are they doing breaking the British transfer record whilst he's still on the books?

What about the combined £100m signings of Keita and oxlade-chamberlain that made John stones look reliable? Were they not flop? Was that not a lot of money?
 
Any transfer has risks and this one is no different.

The fee is crazy.

Dips will need to find a way to slot him in.

You can have the best player in their respective positions but if you don’t have a brilliant playing cast it don’t matter. Look at Haaland. Best finisher but was not great last season due in part to a broken team. Or when Kane went to Bayern, first season won nothing.

Liverpool have good players. So what! The challenge is set. I don’t watch their games so don’t care who they sign.

At some point they will lose this core of players and we will see then how they rebuild. I hope he flops big time. Don’t care how that sounds.
 
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wolviedinho said:
I hope he flops big time. Don’t care how that sounds.
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Oh, come now! Those loveable scallywags from dipper land? Those cheeky, butter-wouldn't-melt, laugh-a-minute scousers? You do know the Germans bombed their chippy?
Honestly, you'd think scousers had done something to turn everyone against them.
 
wolviedinho said:
Any transfer has risks and this one is no different.

The fee is crazy.

Dips will need to find a way to "slot" him in.

You can have the best player in their respective positions but if you don’t have a brilliant playing cast it don’t matter. Look at Haaland. Best finisher but was not great last season due in part to a broken team. Or when Kane went to Bayern, first season won nothing.

Liverpool have good players. So what! The challenge is set. I don’t watch their games so don’t care who they sign.

At some point they will lose this core of players and we will see then how they rebuild. I hope he flops big time. Don’t care how that sounds.
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If you'll pardon the pun.
 
NZBM said:
Good question, Liverpool cant afford players to flop is because their owners are businessmen. They don't care to fund the club and always just lets them find their own money. Our owner, is a proper football and importantly, Manchester City fan. He would do it all to make us a success story. They do have flops, that's why there were few windows they wont even spend more than 10 million. So if anything, wirtz is under immense pressure to perform at liverpool.
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You know that every premier league owner is a businessman running a business, right?

What year are you living in? No owners have funded the club for well over a decade now. FFP/PSR has ensured all the top clubs can spend similar amounts. Liverpool have one of the highest revenues in the league, comparable to the likes of city, united, chelsea and Arsenal, there's nothing stopping them from spending what any of them do and they do infact spend big contrary to what you or the cultists will claim about them not spending.

The reason why in the eyes of the uneducated, city can write off a large sum on the rare occasions a signing doesnt work and move on is because they bring in so much money through sales than anybody else.

When you're selling an Alvarez for £85m a year after buying him for £14m on top of bringing in well over £100m in pure profit from academy sales which effectively allow you to spend five fold of what you bring in, then taking a £40m hit on say a Phillips is insignficant.

Liverpool are poor sellers. 7 years after selling coutinho, its still the last time they brought in big money for anybody. there's a handful of players you've sold for decent money since then and your academy is poor compared to the other big 6.

City are the best by far in that regard, I don't need to rattle off a list of how the academy has made City over £100m every year but Chelsea sell plenty too which has enabled them to spend like nobody else in the last few windows, even united in 16th still have players coming through and being sold, arsenal are like Liverpool in that they're both poor at bringing money in
 
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