Club World Cup - Summer 2025

It looks like Porto have nothing to worry about.

Ahly the better team but toothless. Miami lacklustre and easy to play through.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
It's as clear as day that the event will be a middling success, that the event was always going to be a HUGE deal to non-European clubs, and that in 20 years winning the thing will be a big deal. I understand the caution we have for it in England, but it's tipped over into full blown cynicism with some reporters that I can't work out. Like you say, they're part of the spectacle, what earlier moment of soccer unsullied by commercial interests are they hoping for? Not in any of our lifetimes.
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The media seems to think England v Andorra or Senegal is more important than the CWC. Just a poor judgement call really.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
It's as clear as day that the event will be a middling success, that the event was always going to be a HUGE deal to non-European clubs, and that in 20 years winning the thing will be a big deal. I understand the caution we have for it in England, but it's tipped over into full blown cynicism with some reporters that I can't work out. Like you say, they're part of the spectacle, what earlier moment of soccer unsullied by commercial interests are they hoping for? Not in any of our lifetimes.
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Compare the reporting from 25 years ago. I wonder why the BBC were so enthusiastic then….

 
Anyone any idea where the team is based. Likelihood of getting anywhere near them is slim. But they may put on an open day or something. Having said that they done absolutely fuck all in Saudi for a hand full of fans
 
JASR said:
Not sure Shamoon Hafez would be having a few scoops.
Still, the cost of covering the entire CWC by the bbc, is likely to be less than Mr Stone jollies expenses to cover ‘the most anticipated foreign jaunt by a PL team this summer’ as he churned out puff pieces from the bar whilst following United around the far east a few weeks ago.
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And that same Mr Stone - Chief football writer for the BBC who is giving the club World Cup in USA a miss, but strangely has his flights booked to the USA for later in July to watch the “premier league series” ( pointless pre season friendlies to others) between Bournemouth, Everton, West Ham and we all know who else.
 
Full on salty tears on Sky News this morning. Land grab, inferred sports washing, injuries, no interest, and will likely mean teams will be broken prior to the start of the PL season. It was that bad, they mentioned last nights game but then failed to give the score.

I’ve no issue with critiquing, but a total hatchet job from start to finish is not what one should expect. Would it have been the same with the Rags and Dippers, I think not.
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
It's as clear as day that the event will be a middling success, that the event was always going to be a HUGE deal to non-European clubs, and that in 20 years winning the thing will be a big deal. I understand the caution we have for it in England, but it's tipped over into full blown cynicism with some reporters that I can't work out. Like you say, they're part of the spectacle, what earlier moment of soccer unsullied by commercial interests are they hoping for? Not in any of our lifetimes.
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I think it will be big and in a few years looked back on as a tournament that changed world football. The money at steak will make it a collosal success. When wealthy investors see what they might achieve by backing participating clubs, the next tournament in 4 years time will blow the world of football apart.

I asked ChatGPT what the coverage was like in other participating countries. I won't post the response because it was very detailed and long, but here's the prompt I used:

"What are the Spanish, Italian and German media saying about the FIFA Club World Cup. Are they positive about it; getting excited or ignoring it. Provide a summary highlighting the level of interest in the tournament. Compare this with the interest particularly in South America namely Mexica, Brazil and Argentina - also comment on the interest in Asia, Africa and CONCACAF"


The response was luke warm in Italy, Germany and Mexico. It's also low in the USA because the summer has so many other competing sporting events. Whereas in Argentina, Brazil and Spain the media and fan engagement is full on. Similarly for the Asian and African countries participating. In Africa they see it as a seismic opportunity for players to announce themselves on the world stage.


IMHO I think the group stages will be largely ignored until the knockout phase, unless there are some real humdingers or an enormous walloping. Then City or Juventus will almost certainly play Real Madrid & Chelsea could play Bayern and those will be big games. People will take an interest in those and from the quarter finals as I'm sure there will be a South American side still in as a valiant underdog.

If City win the group the most likely opponents are: Al Hilal, Inter, Bayern and then Real, runners up and it'll probably be: Real, Dortmund/Fluminese, Chelsea/PSG, Bayern/Inter/Juve. However it pans out, there will be plenty of very watchable games.

I set up the old fella's tv to watch it on DZAN last week. The coverage looks pretty good there are several documentaries/previews on all the clubs. So well worth a look.

I'll be in Alcudia watching City's first match, and it will be interesting to see what the local/tourist interest is in Majorca.
 
TedofChume said:
I think it will be big and in a few years looked back on as a tournament that changed world football. The money at steak will make it a collosal success. When wealthy investors see what they might achieve by backing participating clubs, the next tournament in 4 years time will blow the world of football apart.

I asked ChatGPT what the coverage was like in other participating countries. I won't post the response because it was very detailed and long, but here's the prompt I used:

"What are the Spanish, Italian and German media saying about the FIFA Club World Cup. Are they positive about it; getting excited or ignoring it. Provide a summary highlighting the level of interest in the tournament. Compare this with the interest particularly in South America namely Mexica, Brazil and Argentina - also comment on the interest in Asia, Africa and CONCACAF"


The response was luke warm in Italy, Germany and Mexico. It's also low in the USA because the summer has so many other competing sporting events. Whereas in Argentina, Brazil and Spain the media and fan engagement is full on. Similarly for the Asian and African countries participating. In Africa they see it as a seismic opportunity for players to announce themselves on the world stage.


IMHO I think the group stages will be largely ignored until the knockout phase, unless there are some real humdingers or an enormous walloping. Then City or Juventus will almost certainly play Real Madrid & Chelsea could play Bayern and those will be big games. People will take an interest in those and from the quarter finals as I'm sure there will be a South American side still in as a valiant underdog.

If City win the group the most likely opponents are: Al Hilal, Inter, Bayern and then Real, runners up and it'll probably be: Real, Dortmund/Fluminese, Chelsea/PSG, Bayern/Inter/Juve. However it pans out, there will be plenty of very watchable games.

I set up the old fella's tv to watch it on DZAN last week. The coverage looks pretty good there are several documentaries/previews on all the clubs. So well worth a look.

I'll be in Alcudia watching City's first match, and it will be interesting to see what the local/tourist interest is in Majorca.
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Mexico in South America? Good investigation.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Full on salty tears on Sky News this morning. Land grab, inferred sports washing, injuries, no interest, and will likely mean teams will be broken prior to the start of the PL season. It was that bad, they mentioned last nights game but then failed to give the score.

I’ve no issue with critiquing, but a total hatchet job from start to finish is not what one should expect. Would it have been the same with the Rags and Dippers, I think not.
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You have to remember Sky are a business. They don't have the rights and won't big it up if it will take viewers away. They used to completely ignore the FA Cup and World Cup years ago.

Dan Roan has published an equally lamentable article on the Saudi backing of it today on the BBC website. Again it's not on the BBC and Liverpool aren't in it, so play the violin Dan.
 
Corky said:
Mexico in South America? Good investigation.
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Well the CONCACAF includes Suriname, Guyana and French Guiana which are in South America, so the CONMEBOL isn't strictly all of South America. Yet many people assume it is. I should have said Latin America, although South America and Latin America are often used as synonyms. Either way it doesn't affect the response to the prompt.
 
Mcfc1.9.8.0 said:
Anyone any idea where the team is based. Likelihood of getting anywhere near them is slim. But they may put on an open day or something. Having said that they done absolutely fuck all in Saudi for a hand full of fans
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The BBC said they're training in Boca Raton, Florida today. Lynn University.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Full on salty tears on Sky News this morning. Land grab, inferred sports washing, injuries, no interest, and will likely mean teams will be broken prior to the start of the PL season. It was that bad, they mentioned last nights game but then failed to give the score.

I’ve no issue with critiquing, but a total hatchet job from start to finish is not what one should expect. Would it have been the same with the Rags and Dippers, I think not.
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It is a farce of a competition though
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Full on salty tears on Sky News this morning. Land grab, inferred sports washing, injuries, no interest, and will likely mean teams will be broken prior to the start of the PL season. It was that bad, they mentioned last nights game but then failed to give the score.

I’ve no issue with critiquing, but a total hatchet job from start to finish is not what one should expect. Would it have been the same with the Rags and Dippers, I think not.
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I'm not convinced there would have been a total love-in just because United or Liverpool were there, but I do find things like this odd...

www.theguardian.com

Messi shows glimpses of his genius on Fifa’s stage of fakery as Club World Cup begins

A largely incoherent Inter Miami was held to a scoreless draw by Al Ahly as the opening ceremony outshined the football on the pitch
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Sending your "chief sports writer" on an expensive trip to follow a tournament in the US, only to write sneering articles about it. Most of us would love to win it, but I suspect most City fans also agree with a lot of the criticism. However, if it's that bad, stay at home, and write your dismissive opinion articles. If you're going to send someone to report on the matches, at least send someone who wants to write about football, not the circus surrounding it.
 
Betterdeedthan red said:
It is a farce of a competition though
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It's here to stay so get used to it, the prize money is well worth winning and in time it's kudos will grow, i wasn't that keen initially but now it's here and we're in it i want us to win it, it wouldn't surprise ne if in a couple of decades it becomes the premium tournament in club world foitball, if thats a good thing who knows!
 
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