Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

This is going to be an incredibly unpopular opinion with a ton of WELL WHAT ABOUT opinions in response. I acknowledge that. The whole situation is broken.

I worry about the Jews in Europe. Jews are not Zionists or Israelis. But the outrage is palpable and the more Israel aggressively attacks others under the veneer of self defence then the more sentiment will turn.

Israel's actions in the last few months towards Gaza and now Iran have done more to hurt the Jewish people than any historical action that I can recall. The moment that a Mancunian or a New Yorkian or a Shanghaisian becomes "a Jew" then we've lost 70 years of progress.

This is a bad situation. This is a bad situation and we'll be lucky to make it out of here alive.
Agree wholeheartedly with this sentiment. Conflicts will always see innocent people suffer. In this instance there will be Jews, even Israeli Jews, Iranians, Palestinians, Lebanese, and many other nationalities caught inbetween the game these cunts are playing. If you were to ask a moderate Jew and a moderate Iranian living in Manchester how they feel about their current regimes, you would get the most honest appraisal.

That they are both sets of evil bastards.
 
Respectfully disagree with this. It's more religious because it's predicated on religion. It's wielded by extremists for political means, yes, but without the Judaic and Christian connotations Zionism simply wouldn't exist.
it’s predicated on religion but the state of Israel (which is what we are talking about) was created after WW2 for political reasons, not religious ones. Because Jewish people had been persecuted in Europe for centuries, ending in the holocaust, it was felt that this sustained wrong had to be made right. Unfortunately the wider implications of this weren’t fully thought through. And here we are. A fucking mess.

Israel came about because of a political decision. And that is why I view Zionism as a creature of politics. Understand that everyone isn’t going to agree with that. It’s a subjective thing, I guess.

And genuinely happy to hear any counter arguments. Except from @Vic
 
Trump really thinks he can do politics like his shady businesses.



Trump: Guys Do a Deal. What do you both need to be happy?

Bibi: Total annihilation of Iran and the destruction of Islam

Ayatollah: Total annihilation of Israel and the destruction
of Zionism.

Trump: Can't you guys just invest in my crypto scheme and be friends?
 
Trump really thinks he can do politics like his shady businesses.



Trump: Guys Do a Deal. What do you both need to be happy?

Bibi: Total annihilation of Iran and the destruction of Islam

Ayatollah: Total annihilation of Israel and the destruction
of Zionism.

Trump: Can't you guys just invest in my crypto scheme and be friends?
Bibi: Iran has lots of oil
Trump: We’re there
 
Trump really thinks he can do politics like his shady businesses.



Trump: Guys Do a Deal. What do you both need to be happy?

Bibi: Total annihilation of Iran and the destruction of Islam

Ayatollah: Total annihilation of Israel and the destruction
of Zionism.

Trump: Can't you guys just invest in my crypto scheme and be friends?
His complete lack of self-awareness means he has absolutely no idea how fucking small time he looks when he talks about countries ‘making a deal’.

How has it come to this?
 
Given the number of senior Iranian political and military leaders that have been assassinated in the last few days, could there be a coup in the offing?

Israel are clearly getting this intel from the top.
Possibly. If you were one of the senior people left, you would be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life even if you survive this.

Incredible accuracy and intel if no one is involved from the Iranian side!
 
Trump really thinks he can do politics like his shady businesses.



Trump: Guys Do a Deal. What do you both need to be happy?

Bibi: Total annihilation of Iran and the destruction of Islam

Ayatollah: Total annihilation of Israel and the destruction
of Zionism.

Trump: Can't you guys just invest in my crypto scheme and be friends?
According to the news, it’s down to Trump that the Ayatollah is still talking at all!
 
Possibly. If you were one of the senior people left, you would be looking over your shoulder for the rest of your life even if you survive this.

Incredible accuracy and intel if no one is involved from the Iranian side!
The number of these hits suggests they have an extremely senior source. If it had been loads of hits in one flurry then that could be explained in other ways, but they keep finding them. Day after day. That suggests they’ve got someone at the very top, on the inside.
 
Given the number of senior Iranian political and military leaders that have been assassinated in the last few days, could there be a coup in the offing?

Israel are clearly getting this intel from the top.
Trump has a puppet leader ready to take over.images.jpger
 

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