Grooming gang scandal

I don't see the point of wasting time and money - it will be amusing to see certain folks reactions when the ethnicity of the vast number of members of grooming gangs is recorded as " White British"
So you don’t see the point of finding out the facts, arresting rapists or people in authority who let this happen? And potentially helping the victims and stopping this from happening again.

On your second point. There probably is a higher number of white British rapists, as they make up the highest percent of the population (the home office figures aren’t even accurate)

What’s being pointed out in this report is that there’s a disproportionate amount of grooming gangs members that come from the Pakistani community and committed the majority of the crimes being reported in these cases.

it’s almost if your trying to defend it and deflect away from what’s happened. Remove your political bias out of this as it’s irrelevant. There’s nothing amusing about any of it either.
 
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Personally, I think we need to invest more in youth services and youth clubs etc in all communities, so those children that are in vulnerable have some opportunity and investment in themselves

Mate I am in my 60's - we had all that then and still kids got abused.
The biggest risk remains within their own family but outside that what has changed are things like the smart phone, they all have them so can be contacted by wrong un's without anyone knowing. A lot of those targeted are in care - over the decade 2014 - 2024 ( last period figures are available ) there has been a 19% increase in kids in care in England and 26% in Wales. Putting care in private hands brings its own issues
 
So you don’t see the point of finding out the facts, arresting rapists or people in authority who let this happen?

we have had an enquiry - instead of ignoring its findings lets implement them first eh? Its not about not caring its about wanting something done. The last one cost millions and took 7 years. I'd rather take that money and invest in child care and youth services and the like and support the Police in going after the gangs - consider how many more cases there will be if there is another 7 years of navel gazing and inaction.
 
What do you think the answer is to stop grooming gangs then?

Personally, I think we need to invest more in youth services and youth clubs etc in all communities, so those children that are in vulnerable have some opportunity and investment in themselves. This will give them a) life skills b) somewhere to go and not roam the streets and c) most importantly give them some self esteem and confidence so they have less chance of falling victim to these scumbags.

Interested to hear what others solutions would be?
Is this a piss take ? I would imagine a good start would be to throw the cunts in jail who the police have already identified. Then possibly stop anymore of them arriving. You have mentioned a few good social ideas but that would not stop grooming gangs .
 
Wow. Some proper apologetic cunts on here. How the fuck does someone not want to get to the bottom of this? Fuck me, just a pity Trump wasn't involved as it would be 1,000+ pages. Cunts.

This place is a cesspit.
 
I don't see the point of wasting time and money - it will be amusing to see certain folks reactions when the ethnicity of the vast number of members of grooming gangs is recorded as " White British"

Amusing?

Political point scoring over the race of scum that abuse kids.

Stay classy
 
And I agree.
Yet there are other arseholes that are seemingly hell bent on saying "But...but...but....what about the whites??"

We all knows these horrible acts are not restricted to just one group, but the point remains that THIS possible cover up was simply down to the ethnicity of those involved. And that stinks.
It does stink, and it's the authorities that enabled it that need to be punished. A child abuser is a child abuser, that's what makes them scumbags. Not the colour of their skin.
 
It does stink, and it's the authorities that enabled it that need to be punished. A child abuser is a child abuser, that's what makes them scumbags. Not the colour of their skin.
Glad to see a post that doesn’t have any political, racial or religious connotations. Thank you.

It feels like we’re being dragged apart when the reality is that all on here are looking for the same thing - justice.

For one second, let’s forget about all these names we use to describe these people as ‘Grooming Gangs’ to me just clouds the issue. What we should be describing these people is as ‘criminals, paedophiles, rapists, child abusers, scum of the earth’, with the main focus on looking after those that were, in their most vulnerable time, allowed to be further exploited by a system that was supposed to safeguard them.

Personally, I don’t care about the politics, as we, and every single party have failed in this. What I do care about is that we get this right and never allow these disgusting people, regardless of background, to be allowed to do this again.
 
This goes higher than just grooming gangs and Starmer and Khan and many others in high offence are hiding behind this disgusting investigation.
 
My experience of working with and alongside Pakistani men; having witnessed first-hand, their behaviour towards white women. Having seen the attitude and behaviours of Pakistani men towards white women (especially those that are younger) in various other, non-working environments; having spoken to countless women who’ve encountered their behaviours. They are, undoubtedly, a section of society that is widely distrusted, disliked and rightfully now having the spotlight shone on their abusive, malignant lives.

again I would stress my age and say that it was common for mainstream entertainment in the 60's, 70's and into the 80's to have an attitude towards young women in my youth that would not be tolerated now. I could show a multitude of clips but go back on YT yourself an look at clips of Benny Hill, Carry On ... insert the film here, Confessions of ...... insert name of file here - and many others. You will see loads of grown men chasing and lusting after women dressed in school uniforms. It's not new but its an underlying shitty misogynism that has pervaded the male mind set for centuries. Its about learning and knowing what is right and what is wrong.
 
I don't see the point of wasting time and money - it will be amusing to see certain folks reactions when the ethnicity of the vast number of members of grooming gangs is recorded as " White British"
Are you sure ?
I think its fair to say that on these forums, a large share of your prodigious output is devoted to supporting Starmer.
You have enthused over his cabinet choices.
Praised his handling of the economy, trumpeted his Trade deals ,defended his spending cuts - even defended WFA
Supported his conciliatory approach to the EU, the fishing rights weren't an issue.
Waxed lyrical on Net Zero
Acclaimed the Defence review
Lauded his handling of the Southport riots
Approved of the education reforms
Even remained resolute on immigration and Smashing those gangs.

In short there has not been a fag paper between you and Starmer.

Only on this ...

Why is that ?
How come Starmer's sure touch as you see it has deserted him on this issue ?
Why have you parted ways with on this?
 
Think what you bloody well like no-one cares.

I would like action now based on the report that is already over 7 years old it appears you are happy for gangs to roam the country for another 7 - or more- before another report is issued to be considered and acted upon.
 
You are aware that a lot of this was on the Tories watch AND Khan is Mayor of London and not including Telford, Bradford, Rochdale etc?

Also Starmer bringing the first prosecution against Asian gangs and changed the prosecution process for more victims to be heard , he also bought about reopening cases that had been closed.
 
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I know everything is a political football nowadays but it’s depressing how both sides are still so focussed on tit for tat arguments in attempts at oneupmanship and trying to gain the moral high ground, rather than just thinking that maybe some victims might be closer to getting the justice they deserve and to also hope that the perpetrators as well as the people in roles that could have stopped them or protected the victims more are held to account.

It’s where we are right now as a society and now everyone’s got social media too, it’s a great opportunity to have a go at “the other side” but I’d like to still think most people are just thinking good, do the inquiry and please hold the people to account that deserve to be.
 
:Seeing as there is no thread on the grooming gang scandal, its probably best i follow @blueonthru's advice and make a post i made into a thread

There should be a full national enquiry into grooming gangs, just to highlight why those on the far right are exploiting young girls for political gain"

Are you taking the piss with that comment? Do you not see the hypocrisy in your comment?
 
I know everything is a political football nowadays but it’s depressing how both sides are still so focussed on tit for tat arguments in attempts at oneupmanship and trying to gain the moral high ground, rather than just thinking that maybe some victims might be closer to getting the justice they deserve and to also hope that the perpetrators as well as the people in roles that could have stopped them or protected the victims more are held to account.

It’s where we are right now as a society and now everyone’s got social media too, it’s a great opportunity to have a go at “the other side” but I’d like to still think most people are just thinking good, do the inquiry and please hold the people to account that deserve to be.
Hi Melton
In principal you are of course correct but in this case I make no apology for " having a go at the other side"
The crux of the matter and why we have a " scandal" is nothing to do with the colour or ethnicity of the perpetrators.
It is not a 'scandal" that some of the perpetrators or a lot of the perpetrators were Pakistani or Muslim or whatever grouping you choose.
The "scandal" is that the law was not applied evenly to perpetrators of certain ethnicities for fear of arising racial / community tension and that the victims were denied the protection of the state for the same reason.
Essentially the lives of young vulnerable girls, many under the age of consent , children as Baroness Casey points out were sacrificed for the sake of the reputation of multi -culturalism.
Baroness Casey has confirmed what was already well known, that a major factor behind this was the fear of being branded Racist.
Who calls people racist for pointing out that a good many incidences of grooming crimes appear to emanate from the Pakistani community ? Who calls people racist for questioning any aspect of multiculturalism or immigration ? Who has created this culture where the police and other local offices of the state are not only afraid to do their jobs but even to speak out about the issues they face for fear of being a supposed racist?
Politicians and media on the Left certainly, but also in their own small way, posters on forums on the internet, just like these on BlueMoon. They help create that culture and for me any poster on here whose first thought on alleged Pakistani grooming gangs is to try and deflect with what about the white ones, that's Racist , that's Far right , political point scoring etc is in their own small way responsible for that culture.
Do you think they should not be held to account a little bit for that ? I do , they should have a good look in the mirror.
Will they do that of their own volition ? - you can see from some of the posts on here , not a bit of it , in the main absolutely shameless .
So yes agreed in principle, not in this case.
 

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