Glastonbury 2025

I just heard a load of background noise and watched someone who clearly thinks he’s some kind of god.

Not that long, only last few years I think. To be fair my last one was 2016 (a really muddy one) and it wasn't like this then. But maybe 9 years is a long time. Anyway it doesn't feel "pop" when you're there, especially if you spend more than half the time away from the main stages and enjoy the smaller areas. Particularly the SE naughty corner! BBC gives a very distorted idea of the festival IMHO xx
Agreed on most of that. I went to Glasto from 97 to 07. And I'm sure you can still find cool stuff. But hardly any big new rock/alt bands now. Just isn't mainstream at the mo, and hasn't been since 2010 really. So now you only see the old farts doing the rounds for slightly younger old farts like me!
 
The 1975 were pretty decent there. Not really my cup of tea, barring a couple of tunes, but their live set is pretty tight. Plus, Matty Healy being a bit of a bellend makes him a more interesting popstar. But for a band who cover a bunch of genres on record their live sound does just come across as glitzy 80s mulch. A bit homogenous. Maybe that was to do with the mixing and festival setting? Maybe Matty Healy needs to start copying Brett Anderson on record as well, instead of just in front of the cameras? But it clearly meant loads to him - you can't say fairer than that really.

Looking forward to Olivia Rodrigo on Sunday, just from a headliner perspective. Again, not my cup of tea barring a couple of her tunes, but she puts on a charismatic live show and she's good for the kids. In the end pop music should be for kids, apart from the odd representative from the adult market. Pop should excite everyone under 25 and frighten or bore everyone older than 30, while the late-20 somethings kinda shrug at both sides of the argument - Olivia Rodrigo's good for that and she puts a lot of work into her live shows. Very talented for such a young'un.
 
that's fine, different strokes and all that. She just doesn't do it for me as top of the undercard at Glasto on a Friday night – mind you, those headliners set a pretty low bar
She’s not really my cup of tea, but it was better than much of what I’ve seen tonight. Lorde was good, Shed Seven were OK, didn’t like The 1975 at all.
 
Agreed on most of that. I went from 97 to 07. And I'm sure you can still find cool stuff. But hardly any big new rock/alt bands now. Just isn't mainstream at the mo, and hasn't been since 2010 really. So now you only see the old farts doing the rounds for slightly younger old farts like me!
You went during the same period as me the. 2016 was an outlier. I'm 48 so possibly a younger old fart too?! Anyway the big indie bands stopped being mainstream at the end of the 90s but there was still loads of alternative stuff on the Glasto bill. Not this much pop, but I guess times change. I recall everyone being baffled that Sugababes were even there in 2003. If they were in their prime now they'd be headlining the Pyramid! The alt stuff seemed to draw big crowds today though so I suppose there's still something for everyone.
 
Looking forward to Olivia Rodrigo on Sunday, just from a headliner perspective. Again, not my cup of tea barring a couple of her tunes, but she puts on a charismatic live show and she's good for the kids. In the end pop music should be for kids, apart from the odd representative from the adult market. Pop should excite everyone under 25 and frighten or bore everyone older than 30, while the late-20 somethings kinda shrug at both sides of the argument - Olivia Rodrigo's good for that and she puts a lot of work into her live shows. Very talented for such a young'un.
Not just the kids ! Got slated on here for saying it, but those two Olivia Rodrigo albums are all-time classics, thrillingly conceived and produced pop.
 
Looking forward to Olivia Rodrigo on Sunday, just from a headliner perspective. Again, not my cup of tea barring a couple of her tunes, but she puts on a charismatic live show and she's good for the kids. In the end pop music should be for kids, apart from the odd representative from the adult market. Pop should excite everyone under 25 and frighten or bore everyone older than 30, while the late-20 somethings kinda shrug at both sides of the argument - Olivia Rodrigo's good for that and she puts a lot of work into her live shows. Very talented for such a young'un.
Not sure if anyone on here saw her covering Fontaines D.C. in Dublin the other day. A lot of mixed opinions. I don’t mind the concept but the song just didn’t suit her at all. I think she would’ve been more suited to one of there lighter songs like Favourite. I Love You just isn’t the one for her.
 
Not just the kids ! Got slated on here for saying it, but those two Olivia Rodrigo albums are all-time classics, thrillingly conceived and produced pop.
Yeah she's alright imo! Again, not my cup of tea and obviously for a demographic younger than me, but she's a good time. Not a massive fan of her across a whole album but she's got a pretty impressive singles collection imo. Guts being assisted by Jack White and Annie Clark definitely helped me warm towards it, ha, but Vampire's a good one whenever that pops up, Bad Idea Right, Good 4 U, Get Him Back, etc. She makes good pop rock for teens. Although honestly my favourite of hers has ended up being Driver's License simply because it's such a sad and evocative little thing. We've all been there - making big promises to the first people we fall in love with, imagining a future with them, finding out that unexpected things can suddenly take on huge significance that you're not ready to understand... and then it all ends, and you're just left with the future you imagined that's now no longer possible. You promised each other you'd do a road trip when you finally learned how to drive, but now you can drive and that person is gone. Heartbreak hurts the most when you're 17 and it gets to that feeling very, very effectively.
 
You went during the same period as me the. 2016 was an outlier. I'm 48 so possibly a younger old fart too?! Anyway the big indie bands stopped being mainstream at the end of the 90s but there was still loads of alternative stuff on the Glasto bill. Not this much pop, but I guess times change. I recall everyone being baffled that Sugababes were even there in 2003. If they were in their prime now they'd be headlining the Pyramid! The alt stuff seemed to draw big crowds today though so I suppose there's still something for everyone.
Yeah, I'm 45 (had to think for minute there!).

Yeah, it was usually the pop acts who were often older and a always a bit of a novelty (Pet Shop Boys were brilliant in 99 or 2000. Less said about Robbie Williams in 1998). Rock/alt dominated.

Nearly all the big rock/alt acts that play now, played 25 years ago, e.g. Deftones. Think NIN played a year or two later as well...deffo as metal as Glasto ever got!
 
They have played post-punk, dance, funk, soft rock and pop. What more do you want grandad?! ;-)
Post punk? If you mean the 80’s New Romantics you’re right but it had nothing to do with Punk, the generation that shook up the music scene, terminated what we called “BOF” (Boring Old Fart) music at the time. As an 18 year old in 1977 it was a truly fantastic time to be a teenager, the energy and anarchy (very mild really) was fantastic.
 
You know how some of that mid 00s era gets called "indie landfill"? - well I still think that era of bands were way better than the likes of Wet Leg or the 1975. These two would be first on the bill at some shite local indie night, that goes for Fontaines D.C. too.

It's not an age thing as I'm not particularly old, these bands today are more in my era, so to speak.

there seems to be a lack of bands actually writing really good tunes, at least to my ears anyway.
 
You know how some of that mid 00s era gets called "indie landfill"? - well I still think that era of bands were way better than the likes of Wet Leg or the 1975. These two would be first on the bill at some shite local indie night, that goes for Fontaines D.C. too.

It's not an age thing as I'm not particularly old, these bands today are more in my era, so to speak.

there seems to be a lack of bands actually writing really good tunes, at least to my ears anyway.
I prefer Cian Gratten’s solo album to the Fontaines.
Really good. Gets under your skin.
 
You know how some of that mid 00s era gets called "indie landfill"? - well I still think that era of bands were way better than the likes of Wet Leg or the 1975. These two would be first on the bill at some shite local indie night, that goes for Fontaines D.C. too.

It's not an age thing as I'm not particularly old, these bands today are more in my era, so to speak.

there seems to be a lack of bands actually writing really good tunes, at least to my ears anyway.
I dunno. The 1975 have got a handful of good tracks worth listening to and have actually made a go of it past their debut album, which puts them above The Twang, The View, Reverend and the Makers, The Enemy, The Pigeon Detectives, The Fratellis, and all them lot. For all the noise the landfill indie era made it was only really Arctic Monkeys, Bloc Party, The Libertines, Franz Ferdinand, and Art Brut were worth the entry fee after the hype wore off. Oh, and The Libertines, I guess. Sort of. Looking back it was just a decade of uni lads getting drunk and trying to rewrite Boys Don't Cry but with very little idea of how to properly construct a pop song.

On a completely serious note, how did this come out in bloody 1979? That opening riff/lick is a good 20-25 years ahead of its time.

 
The 1975 were pretty decent there. Not really my cup of tea, barring a couple of tunes, but their live set is pretty tight. Plus, Matty Healy being a bit of a bellend makes him a more interesting popstar. But for a band who cover a bunch of genres on record their live sound does just come across as glitzy 80s mulch. A bit homogenous. Maybe that was to do with the mixing and festival setting? Maybe Matty Healy needs to start copying Brett Anderson on record as well, instead of just in front of the cameras? But it clearly meant loads to him - you can't say fairer than that really.

Looking forward to Olivia Rodrigo on Sunday, just from a headliner perspective. Again, not my cup of tea barring a couple of her tunes, but she puts on a charismatic live show and she's good for the kids. In the end pop music should be for kids, apart from the odd representative from the adult market. Pop should excite everyone under 25 and frighten or bore everyone older than 30, while the late-20 somethings kinda shrug at both sides of the argument - Olivia Rodrigo's good for that and she puts a lot of work into her live shows. Very talented for such a young'un.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and it would be terrible if we all liked the same thing but not for me, the great bands attract fans from all ages, Rodrigo’s fan base is made up of the Social Media Generation, not much substance to her music.
 
at least to my ears anyway.

not having a pop mate but thats the same with all art - painting, sculpture, theatre, music and much more. We all like what we like thats why there has been, is and always will be there is so much variation in the arts. I have never seen a live ballet but who knows I could like it if I tried it.
 

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