Reform 2025 Limited new name same business

[Vic]

Almost seems like a wasted effort that, do you find lots of people agreeing with you on the doorstep or do you actively seek out Labour supporters?. How do you know the difference between a supporter and someone who just wants to close the door quickly?
These are genuine questions by the way, i know I always tell them yeah you've got my support mate. If I see em walking up the street I just shut the blinds and don't answer the door.

I should really get one of the no sales people signs.

Sales people reckon they're the best houses to target.

I usually apologise for not seeing it before I knocked.

Do a lot of general canvassing a long time from an election, don't waste time going back to never-Labour voters *, then closer to the election concentrate on making sure your supporters will vote. * Last year was exceptional as lifelong Tories had had enough.

But it's not just finding your voters. It's asking what the local issues are so local councillors are aware (and get votes if they are known for getting problems sorted).

 

[M18CTID]

Firstly, the original post in respect of the numbers and my response to it
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There is no credit to this government or anyone else. Everyone knew this was going to happen due to the last government fixing up some of their own mistakes

In regards to Reform supporters somehow being pleased with the arrival of 431,000 new migrants, @hilts is absolutely correct, no chance! If Farage tried to pass that off as a job well done I think you might see the return of Rupert Lowe in his place.

That’s absolute bullshit - just like the vast majority of your posts - and you know it. Farage would be claiming it as a win and Deform voters would be lapping it up, given that so many hang on his every word and swallow every piece of shit that comes out of his fascist frog-faced mouth.

 

[Chippy_boy]

And which services will you cut?

Thatcher's abolition of the rates was a major transfer of wealth from poor to rich, and the last 14 Tory years have loaded onto local taxes what used to be largely funded from progressive income taxes.

But you know that, surely.

I do. I'm not in charge of any local authorities so not having looked at the books, I cannot say.

My comment was merely a response to someone who said why would a local authority cut some services, so I gave a plausible answer.

 

[Hertzblue]

That’s absolute bullshit - just like the vast majority of your posts - and you know it. Farage would be claiming it as a win and Deform voters would be lapping it up, given that so many hang on his every word and swallow every piece of shit that comes out of his fascist frog-faced mouth.

You demonstrated in our last exchange that you probably weren’t one of the smartest posters on here, you have confirmed that impression in your latest exchanges with @hilts.
Resorting to foul mouthed rants and insults is a desperate look.

 

[M18CTID]

You demonstrated in our last exchange that you probably weren’t one of the smartest posters on here, you have confirmed that impression in your latest exchanges with @hilts.
Resorting to foul mouthed rants and insults is a desperate look.

Awww, what's up? Can't accept the truth? Just face it - you're full of shit. As for hilts, is he still trying to claim he's a Green Party voter in an attempt to mask his far-right views?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Awww, what's up? Can't accept the truth? Just face it - you're full of shit. As for hilts, is he still trying to claim he's a Green Party voter in an attempt to mask his far-right views?

It’s not really about which way their political allegiances lie.

They just want to be as cuntish as possible to stop any discourse happening as their fringe views will never be mainstream enough.

Honestly, the best way to diffuse them is not to rise to their bait.

Whatever you say will be met with insults, designed for you to rise to.

 

[threespires]

I realise the politics threads on here are increasingly light on content and more places to trade insults or throw around huge generalities rather than trying to understand things but I would like to understand what percentage of Reform's support is a protest vote vs what percentage is people who actually think they could run the country better than the alternatives and for that second group what is it about them, policy and capability wise, that gives you the confidence they would be an improvement? I don't mean the rhetoric of "it can't get any worse" because obviously, despite our many problems, it could absolutely get worse. I'd be genuinely interested in understanding from any Reform supporters on here whether they are simply supporting them out of (understandable) frustration or if its more than that?

I asked this question last week but haven't had any takers so I did a bit of rooting about myself. From what I can find in surveys and analysis etc it seems like about 50/50 in terms of protest v some form of ideological alignment. This skews on age so younger reform voters seem to be protest voters driven by economic insecurity but once you get to the 45+ voters people are more likely to actively believe in the broad position. The cited ideological alignment seems to vary from a general belief that significantly reducing immigration will improve things economically (and specifically around provision of state services) through to a deeper white nationalism with again the split across those two positions being about 50/50.

So crudely speaking that would give a voter base of approx.

25% - committed white ethnostate nationalists
25% - committed but mostly around the single issue of large scale immigration reduction and maybe with some nativist views but not ideological like the previous group
50% - floating, general protest vote and probably displaying some of the same concerns of that second group

Don't know if that feels accurate to people who do and don't support Reform?

 

[Hertzblue]

Awww, what's up? Can't accept the truth? Just face it - you're full of shit. As for hilts, is he still trying to claim he's a Green Party voter in an attempt to mask his far-right views?

No, you face it.
In your last exchange with me you chose to start an argument with a view founded on your inability to analyse and interpret data.
In your recent exchange with @hilts you again chose to start an argument with a view arising from what must be poor comprehension skills .
In both cases you abandoned trying articulate your unsustainable arguments and resorted to foul mouthed tirades .
That’s the truth , plain and simple.

 

[Hertzblue]

It’s not really about which way their political allegiances lie.

They just want to be as cuntish as possible to stop any discourse happening as their fringe views will never be mainstream enough.

Honestly, the best way to diffuse them is not to rise to their bait.

Whatever you say will be met with insults, designed for you to rise to.

Al
You forgot to tell him there was no point anyway , all a waste of time etc etc

 

[M18CTID]

No, you face it.
In your last exchange with me you chose to start an argument with a view founded on your inability to analyse and interpret data.
In your recent exchange with @hilts you again chose to start an argument with a view arising from what must be poor comprehension skills .
In both cases you abandoned trying articulate your unsustainable arguments and resorted to foul mouthed tirades .
That’s the truth , plain and simple.

Aren't you the bellend who was bigging up Trump's attitude to immigration the other day and saying it could be replicated here, only to be told that you were talking bollocks, not least because if it was replicated here then the UK would be an unatrractive place to live for everyone, just as the USA is now?

By the way, my last post to you last week on page 256 of this thread has still gone unanswered. Why is that?

 

[hilts]

Awww, what's up? Can't accept the truth? Just face it - you're full of shit. As for hilts, is he still trying to claim he's a Green Party voter in an attempt to mask his far-right views?

Yeah I've been making it up for years just in case I bumped into a poster who can't comprehend posts properly. I've even managed to not post on this thread much just to try and con you.

Pmsl, bright you.

 

[hilts]

It’s not really about which way their political allegiances lie.

They just want to be as cuntish as possible to stop any discourse happening as their fringe views will never be mainstream enough.

Honestly, the best way to diffuse them is not to rise to their bait.

Whatever you say will be met with insults, designed for you to rise to.

I've just popped in to say it's pointless just popping in.

#pointless

 

[M18CTID]

Yeah I've been making it up for years just in case I bumped into a poster who can't comprehend posts properly. I've even managed to not post on this thread much just to try and con you.

Pmsl, bright you.

So why haven't you started a Green Party thread then?

 

[stonerblue]

Look cunty bollocks. They’ll be claiming it’s shit under Starmer but they would be claiming it was good if Farage was PM. THAT is point I was making which I thought I made clear enough even for a dense twat like you to understand.

So I’ll say it again. If Farage was PM and those figures that are down from their historical high were published, Reform voters would be wanking off over them and if you don’t think they would be then you want your fucking head testing.

hahahaha

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

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Ignored

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

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I've just popped in to say it's pointless just popping in.

#pointless

Yes, you are.

 

[hilts]

So why haven't you started a Green Party thread then?

Because you just get arseholes in denial, try reading Gretas thread, grown men slagging of a child. Or just stop oil.
Unlike some I have no reason to lie to strangers on a football forum. I frequent them sometimes no need for a green party one, they are unfortunately never getting in.

Too many selfish twats.

 

[hilts]

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[M18CTID]

Because you just get arseholes in denial, trying reading Gretas thread, grown men slagging of a child. Or just stop oil.
Unlike some I have no reason to lie to strangers on a football forum. I frequent them sometimes no need for a green party one, they are unfortunately never getting in.

Too many selfish twats.

I've just noticed that there is a Green Party thread. Not started by you mind, but you have contributed 5 posts on it since July 2024. Congratulations ;)

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

So why haven't you started a Green Party thread then?

It’s not about promoting his viewpoint. It’s all about demeaning others.