Reform 2025 Limited new name same business

M18CTID said:
Thanks for confirming that immigration isn't the main reason that Labour defectors have switched to all the other parties apart from Reform. There - that wasn't too hard was it?

Anyway, you keep wanking off over your one and only poll that has Reform doing well 4 years out from a General Election. A good analogy would be Hull City fans celebrating winning the PL title when they went joint-top of the league towards the end of October 2008, only to end up in a relegation dogfight that went to the last game of the season
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FFS, we have gone full circle. I have given you the data again, and you have been unable to interpret it again !
Or this time choosing simply not to face the facts ? It is barely credible you can look at the data again and arrive at the same wrongheaded conclusion.

Anyway, you keep wanking off over your one and only poll that has Reform doing well 4 years out from a General Election.
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"your one and only poll that has Reform doing well". ONE AND ONLY.
That must mean you have or be aware of a number of polls that show Reform not doing well.
I am not aware of them and cannot find them.

So come on please show me your recent national polls that show Reform not doing well.

Shouldn't take too long as there must be a few and you must be aware of them.
 
Hertzblue said:
FFS, we have gone full circle. I have given you the data again, and you have been unable to interpret it again !
Or this time choosing simply not to face the facts ? It is barely credible you can look at the data again and arrive at the same wrongheaded conclusion.


"your one and only poll that has Reform doing well". ONE AND ONLY.
That must mean you have or be aware of a number of polls that show Reform not doing well.
I am not aware of them and cannot find them.

So come on please show me your recent national polls that show Reform not doing well.

Shouldn't take too long as there must be a few and you must be aware of them.
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Sorry, yes - there’s been a few but setting your stall out on polls 4 years away from a GE and thinking that it will be replicated at a GE is wishful thinking. I asked you this the other day - do you seriously think the Tories are only winning 2 seats at the next General Election?

Reform might be doing well in the polls at the moment but they’ve had the luxury of a shit load of publicity that the likes of the Greens and the Lib Dems can only dream about, a Labour government that has had a difficult first 12 months, and a Tory party still in disarray. I’d be utterly astonished if Reform can win a General Election, especially as it’s already unravelling for them on a local level less than 2 months after the local elections.

But hey - it’s all about immigration and fuck-all else according to you.
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Was it her own constituency, did she attack the people that pay her to be there. What’s the difference between Amos and this incident?
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It was families and people having a nice day out at a Pride event in Winsford - she is on Winsford Council so highly likely they are her constituents. She is known locally as a TERF who causes trouble because she is a transphobe
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Was it her own constituency, did she attack the people that pay her to be there. What’s the difference between Amos and this incident?
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and this is her partner who has allegedly also been arrested and charged - details are tbc - sounds like a nice guy - they are a perfect match

www.bbc.co.uk

Cheshire West and Chester Councillor who filmed and swore at rival convicted

Simon Boone, 56, is found guilty of using abusive words to cause harassment, alarm or distress.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
 
M18CTID said:
Sorry, yes - there’s been a few but setting your stall out on polls 4 years away from a GE and thinking that it will be replicated at a GE is wishful thinking. I asked you this the other day - do you seriously think the Tories are only winning 2 seats at the next General Election?

Reform might be doing well in the polls at the moment but they’ve had the luxury of a shit load of publicity that the likes of the Greens and the Lib Dems can only dream about, a Labour government that has had a difficult first 12 months, and a Tory party still in disarray. I’d be utterly astonished if Reform can win a General Election, especially as it’s already unravelling for them on a local level less than 2 months after the local elections.

But hey - it’s all about immigration and fuck-all else according to you.
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Apology accepted.
A lot can happen in 4 years, personally I think Reform / Farage will shoot themselves in the foot , probably multiple times and the best they will manage in the end will be some pre-election pact with the Tories who will get stronger.
In any event this will be a one term government but I don't expect current polling to carry through to the next election.

Coming back to your point about the Tories and 2 seats, I didn't reply because I didn't see anywhere that they were only forecast to get 2 seats. The YouGov MRP poll I was quoting showed them with 46 seats ( No, I don't think they will only get 46 seats, they will get stronger and with a pact with Farage take many many more)

In regards to publicity for Reform I believe that just reflects their polling, no more no less. Posters on here seem to believe the BBC support Reform, unbelievable really when Farage's position is that the license fee should be abolished. That really would be Turkeys voting for Xmas.

No it isn't all about immigration with me. Far from it. For me the entire social contract between the state and the individual requires re -imagining in his country. Controlling immigration and therefore easing the pressures on our crumbling welfare state and infrastructure is just a very necessary step .
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Form the 2 stories you posted, seems like neither of them should be councillors. More in the MAGA cult than MAGA cultists.
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Reform will be another Party Farage used and left by the time of the next GE. All the questions will turn to "what do you have to say about.......... " and he hates cross examination. All his interviews have to be monologues where he can spout his fact free bile
 
bluethrunthru said:
Reform will be another Party Farage used and left by the time of the next GE. All the questions will turn to "what do you have to say about.......... " and he hates cross examination. All his interviews have to be monologues where he can spout his fact free bile
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Not sure about that, can’t see him giving up his MPs wages and benefits, he loves to get stuff on the free, just like his MEP wage snd benefits.
 
Hertzblue said:
Apology accepted.
A lot can happen in 4 years, personally I think Reform / Farage will shoot themselves in the foot , probably multiple times and the best they will manage in the end will be some pre-election pact with the Tories who will get stronger.
In any event this will be a one term government but I don't expect current polling to carry through to the next election.

Coming back to your point about the Tories and 2 seats, I didn't reply because I didn't see anywhere that they were only forecast to get 2 seats. The YouGov MRP poll I was quoting showed them with 46 seats ( No, I don't think they will only get 46 seats, they will get stronger and with a pact with Farage take many many more)

In regards to publicity for Reform I believe that just reflects their polling, no more no less. Posters on here seem to believe the BBC support Reform, unbelievable really when Farage's position is that the license fee should be abolished. That really would be Turkeys voting for Xmas.

No it isn't all about immigration with me. Far from it. For me the entire social contract between the state and the individual requires re -imagining in his country. Controlling immigration and therefore easing the pressures on our crumbling welfare state and infrastructure is just a very necessary step .
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With any luck Farage will be dead by then

Heart attack perhaps, fingers crossed
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Form the 2 stories you posted, seems like neither of them should be councillors. More in the MAGA cult than MAGA cultists.
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MAGA - The grift that keeps giving.

It's essentially the legitimisation of peoples extreme prejudices with the added bonus of being able to monetise it by conning thick racists into funding it and voting for it.
 
Earlyriser said:
I see Reform have come up with another vote winner courtesy of Richard Tice.. demanding the restoration of line judges at Wimbledon rather than now relying on electronic calls. They sure are a forward thinking , impressive collection of minds
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This is impressive though. It's petty, stupid, and ridiculous enough to get a bite from people who understand fuck all about politics in general but still get a vote.
Keep it simple. - See Brexit, MAGA and Reform.
 
East Level 2 said:
This is impressive though. It's petty, stupid, and ridiculous enough to get a bite from people who understand fuck all about politics in general but still get a vote.
Keep it simple. - See Brexit, MAGA and Reform.
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I told you, you can't say people who fall for the grift are anything but well informed and know what they are voting for, you'll be touted as the reason they're falling into the loving arms of Nige and Ricky Tice, nowt to do with that always being their voting intent!
 
This morning whilst out walking our dog I bumped into 1 of our local Reform UK councillors. Robbie Roddiss, chairman of Durham Council. I asked why none of the 3 councillors had yet to reply to my email to them regarding the drugs dealing going on in our town centre on a daily basis. He said that he had not seen the email as he doesn't have access to a computer. Said the secretary should have passed this onto him.
I asked if this was the same secretary who has been on the sick since they got elected
 
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