Public Order Act 1986 section 4
Bob Vylan
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I've never taken the poster seriously since he told everyone on here Ralph Rangnick was one of the greatest ever Coaches when he went to the Rags, never retracted his view when Rag Ralph failed.
He's good at googling I'll give him that, however his posts lack a personal viewpoint and are stacked with non empirical "evidence".
Anyway, until the police or the CPS decide there's not enough evidence to get a conviction against Vylan, there's another thread to discuss the genocide and the conduct of the IDF.
But would chanting "Join, join the IDF" be an incitement to violence?
But would chanting "Join, join the IDF" be an incitement to violence?
Chippy_boy
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Thanks for that. But wow.
Section 4 of the Public Order Act makes it an offence to use threatening, abusive or insulting words or behaviour or to distribute or display to someone any writing, sign or similar which is threatening, abusive or insulting, with the intent to make that person believe that immediate violence will be used against them
So on that basis, saying, "Go and kill your MP, but not now, wait until later" is legal then. That's ridiculous.
The Fat el Hombre
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Guessing the pearl clutchers crying at bob vylan calling out the Israeli occupational forces and the ongoing israeli genocide are also outraged at this?
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And now let’s bomb Glastonbury
A small yield nuclear weapon, such as the American W89, dropped on Glastonbury in late June would immediately remove from our country almost everybody who is hugely annoying. You would see a marked reduction in the keffiyeh klan, for a start, and all those middle-class Extinction Rebellion...
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Try Serious Crime Act 2007 section 44
We have a separate thread to discuss the Israel-Palestine conflict in a broader context, let's keep this one about the thread title. If you want to discuss if he should face action for what he said, or whether he was right to use his platform to raise this issue, then fill your boots. Keep the more general stuff about the conflict to the other thread though, otherwise this one will probably end up getting pulled (like the Kneecap one which went the same way).
Prestwich_Blue
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This is ultimately exactly the type of discussion and awarwness they were looking to provoke though, so in some ways it is inevitable and shouldn't be outright discouraged. Unfortunate that it ends up a repeat of the same blinkered arguments by the same people, but there is and should be a widening of it too. Otherwise we'd be talking about their music, and it wouldn't be in the subforum.
'Just don't do it ''deliberately''!'
The overreaction to their antics is now getting a bit daft. The BBC music production team now being pushed to step down, an abundance of apologies not seeming enough, and calls for avoiding showing anything that might be seen as 'risky'.
Gobshiight
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I think the damage is done now, in terms of linking zionism, Israel, the IDF etc. to Judaism. They've become inseparable to so many. So while they had good intentions, Bob Vylan should have been more responsible when in front of a crowd of people. It just takes one moron in that field to get the wrong idea and become a danger to innocent Jews
It's not Bob Vylan's fault we're here though. People wonder why we don't see this outrage and anger at wars in Ukraine and elsewhere, when it's fucking obvious: our government and media aren't telling us that Russia has a right to 'defend itself', and they're not minimising atrocities committed. The response to Glastonbury is a perfect example of what's making people so pissed off
The whole situation is disgusting and, again, it's innocents who will suffer
Keeping things more in line with the thread topic: the band deserved a little bit of pushback, but the wholesale cancelling of them is fucking ridiculous
It's not Bob Vylan's fault we're here though. People wonder why we don't see this outrage and anger at wars in Ukraine and elsewhere, when it's fucking obvious: our government and media aren't telling us that Russia has a right to 'defend itself', and they're not minimising atrocities committed. The response to Glastonbury is a perfect example of what's making people so pissed off
The whole situation is disgusting and, again, it's innocents who will suffer
Keeping things more in line with the thread topic: the band deserved a little bit of pushback, but the wholesale cancelling of them is fucking ridiculous
dronefromsector7G
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How the fuck did the bbc not have an idea they might do this? It’s not fucking rocket science.
Prestwich_Blue
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Of course I was talking about the Moderating Team as an entity not the individual mods.
johnny crossan
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The idea that this piece of political theatre was accidental is simply laughable.
Prestwich_Blue
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There's no doubt that the Eavis's knew exactly what they were doing.
Auden night mail
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You two are absolute cuckoo
Not accidental in what way? That the BBC knew it was coming and planned to air it on Iplayer and not cut it till it was 'too late' but then cut it and applogise for it and remove their own staff involved?
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I've mentioned before that Bob Vylan (well, singer Bobby) made a similar rant/statement/whatever during their otherwise excellent gig in town last year.
Assume it's part of their stage show and, bearing in mind they were scheduled on stage just before Kneecap, a bit of simple research and common sense by the BBC would have avoided (at least) the live screening and therefore the outrage.
Tie the beeb to a stake and burn them. If that doesnt work, fetch the ducking stool...