Palestine Action

From Owen Jones.

Nobody really believes that Palestine Action is actually a terrorist organisation. The term ‘terrorism’ has been stripped of all meaning, used to describe activities deemed hostile by Western states, that actually perpetrate lethal violence on a mass scale. When anti-terrorism legislation was passed, opponents warned it would be abused to damage the civil liberties of people who clearly are not terrorists, and such laws have already been deployed against entirely peaceful protesters.

Yes, Palestine Action activists break the law. When they do so, they expect to be prosecuted. Personally, if I served on a jury, I would acquit them on the grounds that they were seeking to prevent a much greater crime - that is, genocide.

Two protesters who broke into RAF Fairford in 2003 to inflict actual damage on military equipment - as opposed to throwing red paint - in protest at the Iraq war were rightly later acquitted by the jury on the grounds they sought to prevent war crimes. Who was the lawyer who represented one of them? Keir Starmer.
 
bluethrunthru said:
how serious is serious?

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The vandalism resulted in jets being grounded for engine changes as a minimum.. the painted / damaged engines going back to RR for remanufacture (at huge fucking expense to you and me by the way)

Any deliberate damage to military assets should be classed as serious IMHO.. Treason in fact
 
Vic said:
From Owen Jones.

Nobody really believes that Palestine Action is actually a terrorist organisation. The term ‘terrorism’ has been stripped of all meaning, used to describe activities deemed hostile by Western states, that actually perpetrate lethal violence on a mass scale. When anti-terrorism legislation was passed, opponents warned it would be abused to damage the civil liberties of people who clearly are not terrorists, and such laws have already been deployed against entirely peaceful protesters.

Yes, Palestine Action activists break the law. When they do so, they expect to be prosecuted. Personally, if I served on a jury, I would acquit them on the grounds that they were seeking to prevent a much greater crime - that is, genocide.

Two protesters who broke into RAF Fairford in 2003 to inflict actual damage on military equipment - as opposed to throwing red paint - in protest at the Iraq war were rightly later acquitted by the jury on the grounds they sought to prevent war crimes. Who was the lawyer who represented one of them? Keir Starmer.
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The same Owen Jones who learnt his style of politics from Sinn Fein Summer School?
 
Anyway, just so we're all aware.

A person commits an offence if the person—

(a) expresses an opinion or belief that is supportive of a proscribed organisation, and

(b) in doing so is reckless as to whether a person to whom the expression is directed will be encouraged to support a proscribed organisation.

So I guess that means if you were to say that you believe Palestine Action should not have been proscribed, and a fellow blue says "That encourages me to say the same", you could go down for 14 years for a terrorist offence.
 
Bluemanc100 said:
The vandalism resulted in jets being grounded for engine changes as a minimum.. the painted / damaged engines going back to RR for remanufacture (at huge fucking expense to you and me by the way)

Any deliberate damage to military assets should be classed as serious IMHO.. Treason in fact
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So anyone who vandalized UK US bases back in the day in protest of nukes should be a classed as a terrorist ? Including women and children ?

What about the suffragettes ?
 
Bluemanc100 said:
It clearly wasn’t her Great Granddaughter that they burned alive in an oven back in October
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Bluemanc100 said:
The vandalism resulted in jets being grounded for engine changes as a minimum.. the painted / damaged engines going back to RR for remanufacture (at huge fucking expense to you and me by the way)

Any deliberate damage to military assets should be classed as serious IMHO.. Treason in fact
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If you wanna keep somebody out then protect it ffs



 
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