Manchester Airport police assault trial | Man found guilty of assaulting two female police officers

bert38 said:
Another example-I was always arresting the same youths for the usual theft from vehicles etc-they'd always scrap when you tried to arrest them-one day I went with a female officer (wpc went out with juliet bravo..) and not one of the 7 kicked off..
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I saw a similar thing recently. Some idiot went mental in our street and was trying to kick someones door in. The Police had to restrain him and put him in a van. There were some seriously big officers who put him in the van, he then started going mental, shouting and booting the inside. A smallish female officer just opened the door and said "if you don't pack that in, you & I are going to fall out" and he just stopped straight away.
 
dickie davies said:
Five year maximum, but the second assault was on emergency workers so will be taken into account

It may be a couple of years for the original headbutt and punches, five for the WPC's broken nose and two further years as it was emergency workers

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You'd like to think their ridiculous not-guilty plea will see the judge treat them as harshly as the guidelines allow. Maximum sentences for each charge to be served consecutively would be my hope, although seems unlikely.
 
bert38 said:
Do you think a 6ft bloke wouldnt have got chinned? The same offender punched the officer (who later stamped on his head) around a dozen times-you think he's since just brushed it off?

There were plenty of big blokes who I'd never want near me during a disturbance-because the quality of the officer-their intelligence/experience/ability to function under stress/ability to communicate was far more important than their size.

Also, most people have never been thumped that hard in the face-its not like the telly-it fucking hurts and its fucking scary.

I chased after someone once who I knew was v violent and when I caught up with him he headbutted me so hard I thought my head was going to explode.

This incident and the sword murder in Hainult demonstrate what our police face on a daily basis on the frontline-many of them v young people who run towards danger and put themselves in harms way only to be judged by all and sundry after the event.

Another example-I was always arresting the same youths for the usual theft from vehicles etc-they'd always scrap when you tried to arrest them-one day I went with a female officer (wpc went out with juliet bravo..) and not one of the 7 kicked off..
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Lots of big fuckers first to leg it back in the day.........plenty of 5ft 8 lads stood their ground not giving a fuck.
 
5 Hit Gibbon said:
I saw a similar thing recently. Some idiot went mental in our street and was trying to kick someones door in. The Police had to restrain him and put him in a van. There were some seriously big officers who put him in the van, he then started going mental, shouting and booting the inside. A smallish female officer just opened the door and said "if you don't pack that in, you & I are going to fall out" and he just stopped straight away.
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Which goes to show he is fully aware of what he is doing and when it comes to charging should counteract all the excuses many spew out….mental health adhd vulnerable drugs etc etc
 
bert38 said:
Do you think a 6ft bloke wouldnt have got chinned? The same offender punched the officer (who later stamped on his head) around a dozen times-you think he's since just brushed it off?

There were plenty of big blokes who I'd never want near me during a disturbance-because the quality of the officer-their intelligence/experience/ability to function under stress/ability to communicate was far more important than their size.

Also, most people have never been thumped that hard in the face-its not like the telly-it fucking hurts and its fucking scary.

I chased after someone once who I knew was v violent and when I caught up with him he headbutted me so hard I thought my head was going to explode.

This incident and the sword murder in Hainult demonstrate what our police face on a daily basis on the frontline-many of them v young people who run towards danger and put themselves in harms way only to be judged by all and sundry after the event.

Another example-I was always arresting the same youths for the usual theft from vehicles etc-they'd always scrap when you tried to arrest them-one day I went with a female officer (wpc went out with juliet bravo..) and not one of the 7 kicked off..
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Seems to be dangerous everywhere now, in my opinion retail is shocking because the people being attacked have no training or authority to use force and scrotes gravitate to them.

I would rather be younger and have the authority than older with no training and at the mercy of scrotes.
 
Ric said:
The footage is pretty shocking, hope the twats get the maximum punishment possible.
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Yes, I've just seen the young female PC with her nose all bust up and bleeding.
What an utter **** this guy is , I just can't believe that any decent man would do that sort of damage to any woman,let alone a police woman.
The jury need to find this guy guilty, and the judge give him a minimum of 7 years in jail for the multiple offences he has committed.
 
Millwallawayveteran1988 said:
I’m glad he got booted in the head. Serves the fucker right.
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I was one of those who was critical of the police officer on here when the initial footage emerged. The new video certainly makes it more understandable why he reacted that way, but still don’t think you can ever really justify stamping on someone’s head, even a twat like that. Anyway, hope justice is served.
 
Ric said:
I was one of those who was critical of the police officer on here when the initial footage emerged. The new video certainly makes it more understandable why he reacted that way, but still don’t think you can ever really justify stamping on someone’s head, even a twat like that. Anyway, hope justice is served.
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He reacted in that situation as I think I would have done.

And as a trained police officer I don't think that's right.
 
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1961_vintage said:
He reacted in that situation as I think I would have done.

And as a trained police officer I don't think that's right.
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They were all trained police officers. They tried to calm it and deal with them and arrest them. If someone doesnt want to be arrested and displays that amount of violence to them, where does it stop and how and what else do they do? Shoot him? No. Hes unarmed. Taser? Tried it. Back up? Hes headbutted one of them and shes fucked and not an option. Got to keep an airport full of people safe from them dicks and arrest them come what may, its their job they have to do it. No options left. Do whats needed. Very easy to critise if not in that position and moment. Not a fair view that, respectfully of course
 
Ric said:
I was one of those who was critical of the police officer on here when the initial footage emerged. The new video certainly makes it more understandable why he reacted that way, but still don’t think you can ever really justify stamping on someone’s head, even a twat like that. Anyway, hope justice is served.
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Disagree. Defendant displayed an extreme aggression and level of violence towards armed police officers in an airport. In that situation I would say pretty much any action is justified to neutralise the threat.

If anything the defendant got off lightly and the officer would have been justified using even more force if he felt the threat hadn’t been fully dealt with.
 
mcfcphil said:
Disagree. Defendant displayed an extreme aggression and level of violence towards armed police officers in an airport. In that situation I would say pretty much any action is justified to neutralise the threat.

If anything the defendant got off lightly and the officer would have been justified using even more force if he felt the threat hadn’t been fully dealt with.
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Hadn’t he been tasered by that point, so you could argue that the threat had largely been neutralised? Not a hill I’m going to die on anyway!
 
Ric said:
Hadn’t he been tasered by that point, so you could argue that threat had largely been neutralised? Not a hill I’m going to die on anyway!
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Yeah, possibly, and maybe the threat had been neutralised, but I doubt the officer could be 100% sure looking at footage.

Put it this way, if someone displays that level of violence in an airport I want the police to be permitted to meet it with a reciprocal level of force, otherwise I don’t think they can protect the public.
 
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